Live discussion of Robert Mueller's testimoony today - hopefully respectful

[chuckiechan]

I agree with you. I don't think any POTUS, ever will ever go to jail. Just don't see it happening.

We don’t do that in this country to presidents or candidates. Justice can suffer occasionally for the greater good of not becoming a banana republic.

 

[Pound4abrown]

So, what are your opinions of decorated war veteran General Michael Flynn? :roll:

He is an admitted liar. Who plead guilty. What has Muller plead guilty to?
Get out of here with that bs.

 

[TheRepublican]

He’s not going to talk about anything about it apparently then why are we having this hearing?

 

[vegas giants]

Mueller hasn't said Trump is guilty of obstrucrion.

1,000 prosecutors said he is

 

[Napoleon]

I also am wondering if he knew the democrat questions in advance. He seemed more prepared for those, yet was flat footed when asked questions by Republicans.

He democrat legal team headed by Weissman would have done his briefing.

No. The Democrats are only asking Mueller to affirm direct readings from the report. The Republicans are asking questions that Mueller was directed by the DOJ not to answer.

 

[HumblePi]

I am just laughing at the stories from earlier in the week that the Democrats have been running mock trials all week preparing for Jim Jordan... not only were they not prepared for Rep. Jordan, they are getting the beat down from everyone with an R after their name.

Only in your partisan eye. But to observers from other parts of the world, it's more black and white than how you are seeing it through the eyes of someone supporting this bastard.

 

[ocean515]

It is all about the middle, but I'm not sure this is something that will swing one any more than already. Perhaps, if for some reason there have been folk not paying attention to any of this before who are now suddenly paying attention. I think the Dems already will have an easier time with the middle this next go around since we've now seen Trump. I think he turned off a lot of the middle quickly. So something as contentious and unproductive as the Mueller thing I don't think will sway them much more. It will be more about the candidate they choose and how they present the whole of the Trump presidency and his unending series of buffoonish blunders.

I don't think the middle appreciates the left's desire to remove them from the process of electing the President by working so hard to overturn the EC. I don't think the middle is too appreciative of the left when disagreement with liberal policy results in them being called deplorable.

I don't think the middle will think well of the left when it refuses to address what is going on with immigration and specifically the Southwest Border, and then abruptly changes course and tries to blame the President for their own failures.

I could be wrong but these, and many more issues makes it a bit difficult to know where the "middle" is as a result.

 

[Pound4abrown]

We don’t do that in this country to presidents or candidates. Justice can suffer occasionally for the greater good of not becoming a banana republic.

I am saying no POTUS would go to jail. I am not saying they can't, and shouldn't be removed from office for doing provable shady ****.

 

[vegas giants]

We don’t do that in this country to presidents or candidates. Justice can suffer occasionally for the greater good of not becoming a banana republic.

It is because we are not a banana republic that we hold no one above the law

 

[tres borrachos]

Except most answers are "I can't get into that".

Because he can't. Do you want him to lie or make something up?

 

[Taylor]

Not sure I understand your question. I'm not in a position to charge anyone for anything?

I just don't think that his testimony there was a problem for Trump whatsoever - he only said that Trump "could" be indicted were he not President. Not whether Mueller would have or someone else should. We knew that already.

 

[PeteEU]

Unfortunately true. The Dems don't always play it smart, and this rise of the far-left ideology I think isn't helping their branding right now either.

But we shall see what happens. If the Dems are smart, I don't think they'll have an issue sweeping through the Presidency nor the Congress come 2020. Though I don't really expect them to be smart about it.

What far left ideology? I keep hearing this and have yet to see anyone advocate nationalising all industry and giving workers equal power in the board rooms and all those far left ideas...

What I do see is the far right with the GOP at its head label anyone they disagree with as a far left communist illegal Muslim homosexual pedo mzee <add usual right wing slurs>. Sad part is the media yet again is not challenging the far right bull****....

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[Napoleon]

It is because we are not a banana republic that we hold no one above the law

Codswallop. It’s a complete contradiction to say that the President is not above the law yet immune from any criminal indictment or prosecution.

 

[Taylor]

Best soundbyte for Democrats thus far:

Ted Lieu: "The reason again that you did not indict..is because of the OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting President, correct?"

Mueller: "That is correct."

 

[j brown's body]

Now we have Barack Obama being charged with obstruction over....something...

 

[ocean515]

I am just laughing at the stories from earlier in the week that the Democrats have been running mock trials all week preparing for Jim Jordan... not only were they not prepared for Rep. Jordan, they are getting the beat down from everyone with an R after their name.

I've been observing the same thing.

Worse, sticking to this "I bring you to #5 of obstruction" game, they are showing they don't care at all about what Mueller is saying, what the Republicans have got Mueller to admit, and what he is completely fumbling over.

This is just a show and creating of talking points and memes. It's not a hearing. It's a continuance of the circus so they can play it in to next year.

 

[j brown's body]

No. The Democrats are only asking Mueller to affirm direct readings from the report. The Republicans are asking questions that Mueller was directed by the DOJ not to answer.

Saw that one coning from a mile away.

 

[HumblePi]

Except most answers are "I can't get into that".

For good reason. There are currently multiple investigations ongoing that could be compromised if he 'got into that'.

 

[AProudLefty]

He never said there's no obstruction. :lamo

 

[Ikari]

I don't think the middle appreciates the left's desire to remove them from the process of electing the President by working so hard to overturn the EC. I don't think the middle is too appreciative of the left when disagreement with liberal policy results in them being called deplorable.

I don't think the middle will think well of the left when it refuses to address what is going on with immigration and specifically the Southwest Border, and then abruptly changes course and tries to blame the President for their own failures.

I could be wrong but these, and many more issues makes it a bit difficult to know where the "middle" is as a result.

There is variance in what the middle may want. But the EC isn't going anywhere, so that's just hysterics right there. The middle also isn't quite OK with the litany of problems plaguing our internment camps for kids and that's on Trump's shoulders. So if for some reason you think the right has an easier job swaying the middle over or convincing them to stay at home, you're fooling yourself.

The Dems will have an easier time swaying this time, people are not at all happy with everything going on. Trump has to play on the economy and hope everything holds steady til 2020, because if the economy goes, Trump is out on his rump. This is the Dems election to win or lose. I'm not saying they have it in the bag. The Dems have proven inept beyond belief, and they can squander it all. But they'll have the easier job swaying the middle over. It's going to depend on who they put up and how they narrate Trump's disgrace of a Presidency.

 

[vegas giants]

Codswallop. It’s a complete contradiction to say that the President is not above the law yet immune from any criminal indictment or prosecution.

Any indictment must come from congress

 

[trouble13]

Unsurprisingly the entire hearing was a complete waste of time. Mueller did not clarify anything at all. What he did was comparable to pleading the 5th. Its telling that the Democrats accepted these terms.

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[Mycroft]

Any indictment must come from congress

Congress does not have the ability to indict.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Codswallop. It’s a complete contradiction to say that the President is not above the law yet immune from any criminal indictment or prosecution.

Sadly the only way for a POTUS to pay for any crimes committed is removal of office.
Why do you think Ford pardoned Nixon?

 

[Ikari]

What far left ideology? I keep hearing this and have yet to see anyone advocate nationalising all industry and giving workers equal power in the board rooms and all those far left ideas...

What I do see is the far right with the GOP at its head label anyone they disagree with as a far left communist illegal Muslim homosexual pedo mzee <add usual right wing slurs>. Sad part is the media yet again is not challenging the far right bull****....

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Far left by American standards. I don't call them socialists, even those pandering for single payer, since it isn't socialism. But the "squad" isn't doing wonders for the DNC's brand right now. And some of the in-fighting it is causing can easily be spun by Trump and the GOP.

Though I would agree that the far right is getting far too 1984.

I mean, if I had to pick between universal healthcare or internment camps for kids....I'd go with the healthcare.