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Liberals use deadly tornados to attack Republicans on climate change

The time for humoring these people is done. If they have their way the people of Toledo Ohio will have beachfront property, the great farm belt will be stuck with a drought/deluge cycle which will be impossible to manage and the West will just be burned out.
Eventually all of the above could well be true or we may enter another ice age or Europe and Africa will merge or split farther apart or.........
Nobody knows.
 
The time for humoring these people is done. If they have their way the people of Toledo Ohio will have beachfront property, the great farm belt will be stuck with a drought/deluge cycle which will be impossible to manage and the West will just be burned out.

I understand when I am speaking with a brick wall. There have to be some people willing to look at what is happening around them and think about it though.
 
Non-Truthers: "gee, we should start doing something even if it's expensive. Even if there is more to understand and no prediction is 100% accurate, there's this overwhelming consens - -

Truthers: LIES! HOAX!

People who became Trumpists: Obama's just plotting to use AGW as an excuse to transfer wealth to foreign nations and make us a third world country!

Truthers: [have since wandered off and are now shouting at birds about 5G, amusing three and disturbing the other two]

Non-Truther: Jesus. Look, seriously, it's painfully clear that no matter what exactly happens it will involve bad weather in greater frequency and severity. We'll face droughts, and fir--

Truthers: JEWISH SPACE LASERS! Remote controlled planes and nan-

Everyone else
: /slap

Trumpists: she was "just joking". Lol, doesn't it just piss you off that we don't care we elect stark raving ****wits and lying bastards? MAGA!

Non-Truthers: Sorry, son. But you're going to spend a whole lot of your time and money dealing with the fallout. You might even have to go die on foreign soil in conflicts resulting from land becoming unfarmable, water supplies moving and disappearing, mass migration, and all the human problems secondary to mass catastrophes.
 
Well for one it is tracking global events which the LIA wasn't.
That's the AGW narrative. "It was just the northern hemisphere "
Narrative meet science.


 
It doesn't get much worse than this. Liberals politicizing a natural disaster with death and destruction.Now tornadoes are Republicans fault. Can you guys go any lower?


""All I know is that the intensity of the weather across the board has some impacts as a consequence of the warming of the planet and climate change," Biden said.

Former ESPN host Jemele Hill encouraged Democrats to use the tornado as an opportunity to damage Sen. Paul politically.

"We know @RandPaul is a heartless hypocrite," Hill tweeted. "The people in Kentucky deserve the relief regardless of their buffoonish leadership, but if the Dems don’t use this against him and his party in the future, it is a missed opportunity."


"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell used the tragedy to take a shot at Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who represents Kentucky, accusing him of not caring about Americans who are in need."

"But do not for one second forget that @RandPaul has voted against helping most Americans most times they’re in need."




Haha. "Liberals use facts and reality to attack Republicans on climate change".

Why don't these guys just go back to talking about real things like Obama's secret birth certificate, Hillary's pedophilia ring, how Trump's inauguration crowds were the largest in history, and the stolen election?
:ROFLMAO:
 
So this recent tornado possibly was on the ground a few more miles which in your mind proves something? The tornado in the 20s was just as severe and more deadly. You'd think after a hundred years of global warming caused by man this recent tornado would dwarf the one a hundred years ago. But no.

"The most "extreme" tornado in recorded history was the Tri-State Tornado, which spread through parts of Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana on March 18, 1925. It is considered an F5 on the Fujita Scale, even though tornadoes were not ranked on any scale at the time. It holds records for longest path length at 219 miles (352 km), longest duration at about 3½ hours, and fastest forward speed for a significant tornado at 73 mph (117 km/h) anywhere on Earth. In addition, it is the deadliest single tornado in United States history with 695 fatalities.[1] It was also the third-costliest tornado in history at the time, but has been surpassed by several others non-normalized. When costs are normalized for wealth and inflation, it still ranks third today.[2
in the 1920s we didn't have the building codes we do today. It was more deadly because of that.
 
It doesn't get much worse than this. Liberals politicizing a natural disaster with death and destruction.Now tornadoes are Republicans fault. Can you guys go any lower?


""All I know is that the intensity of the weather across the board has some impacts as a consequence of the warming of the planet and climate change," Biden said.

Former ESPN host Jemele Hill encouraged Democrats to use the tornado as an opportunity to damage Sen. Paul politically.

"We know @RandPaul is a heartless hypocrite," Hill tweeted. "The people in Kentucky deserve the relief regardless of their buffoonish leadership, but if the Dems don’t use this against him and his party in the future, it is a missed opportunity."


"Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell used the tragedy to take a shot at Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who represents Kentucky, accusing him of not caring about Americans who are in need."

"But do not for one second forget that @RandPaul has voted against helping most Americans most times they’re in need."



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in the 1920s we didn't have the building codes we do today. It was more deadly because of that.
It was a tornado completely on par with the recent one which proves tornado intensity isn't increasing. Get back to me when we start seeing tornadoes significantly worse than in the recent past..
 
Have to admit......

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......they play the victim part pretty well.
 
Eventually all of the above could well be true or we may enter another ice age or Europe and Africa will merge or split farther apart or.........
Nobody knows.
Its happening right in front of your face. Are you blind? This is no longer an eventual problem for our children. Its here now. Toledo beachfront might be a stretch but are coastline is already changing, western fires are already raging now taking out thousand year old Sequoias and the farm belt, one of our great strategic assets is already enduring drought and deluge cycles.
 
That's the AGW narrative. "It was just the northern hemisphere "
Narrative meet science.



Mostly yes.

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It is unlikely that Chainsaw actually understands anything like data or science per se. It would be helpful to explain to them but it would probably take a very long time.

Everyone gets to read what I'm saying.
 
Storms frequency or severity tracked over a short period of time proves nothing either way. Really though there is no time frame that proves anything except climate changes. There's no such thing as normal climate.

Ok, so how long do we have to track something and make accurate predictions before you're satisfied then?
 
Also, while Chainsaw is busy pointing to a very common March tornado season...he is missing we are in December.....what causes tornadoes? warm air and cold air colliding....a very rare warm December meeting a cold front caused this event....which is very related to climate change
 
Its happening right in front of your face. Are you blind? This is no longer an eventual problem for our children. Its here now. Toledo beachfront might be a stretch but are coastline is already changing, western fires are already raging now taking out thousand year old Sequoias and the farm belt, one of our great strategic assets is already enduring drought and deluge cycles.
Fires of 1910
Google it
 
Mostly yes.

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Your stuck in old science . Try to keep up. LIA was a world wide event.
 
Ok, so how long do we have to track something and make accurate predictions before you're satisfied then?
No such thing as normal climate. You really can’t grasp that can you.
 
No such thing as normal climate. You really can’t grasp that can you.

So you've adopted a position where no one can convince you otherwise no matter what. Fitting.

I shall take your positions with the grain of salt they deserve.
 
It was a tornado completely on par with the recent one which proves tornado intensity isn't increasing. Get back to me when we start seeing tornadoes significantly worse than in the recent past..

Your time frame for change in intensity is the based on when the previous tornado was? So, one year or less? What happened to 10,000 years being good and 200 years being bad?
 
What are your scientific assertions regarding climate change?
Simple really. No such thing as normal climate. An easy look back in time through any and all scientific methodology proves that true.
 
It was a tornado completely on par with the recent one which proves tornado intensity isn't increasing. Get back to me when we start seeing tornadoes significantly worse than in the recent past..

 
Say what?
Do you know that all the glaciers in grand Teton NP were formed in the LIA?

And here we are well beyond the maximum temperatures of the last few thousand (those with human civilization) years not more than a few hundred years later.

As I said though, it's useless to argue with you when you don't intend to set any parameters that could possibly convince you one way or another.

I might as well argue about your religious convictions.
 
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