ThePhoenix said:OK Liberals, How about sharing your Ideas on how to improve our security, our economy, and our schools? Here is you opportunity to let your agendas be heard. Show us Conservatives and Centrist what you have to offer America and the world.
Kandahar said:I don't know if you'd consider me a "liberal" but here goes:
SECURITY - Regime change in Iran (but not a long occupation), withdrawal from Iraq, spend Homeland Security funds where they're actually needed, stop giving foreign aid money to our enemies, and a nationwide project to make alternative energy commercially viable.
ECONOMY - Massive spending cuts to balance the budget, completely eliminate pork barrel spending, more pressure on China to appreciate its currency.
SCHOOLS - Allow school choice, attach education money to students rather than schools, stop teaching religious garbage in biology classes.
Navy Pride said:Regime Change in Iran: How?
Navy Pride said:Withdraw from Iraq: Just like Nam, Cut and Run
Navy Pride said:Economy: Cuts where?
Navy Pride said:Schools: How do you get around the NEA?
ThePhoenix said:OK Liberals, How about sharing your Ideas on how to improve our security, our economy, and our schools? Here is you opportunity to let your agendas be heard. Show us Conservatives and Centrist what you have to offer America and the world.
Kandahar said:A shock-and-awe campaign, followed by an invasion, then an occupation lasting no more than six months.
The costs of staying in Iraq grossly exceed any benefits. It wouldn't have to be a complete withdraw from Iraq though; we could just withdraw into our own military bases in Iraq.
We can make a lot of across-the-board cuts. We especially need to cut/privatize entitlements like SS and medicare. We should be working to completely eliminate useless corporate welfare and agricultural subsidies.
By getting rid of the US Department of Education and letting the states deal with it however they want. Arnold Schwarzenegger had the right idea, by proposing to make unions get the permission of their members before spending their dues on political purposes. We just need some states to actually succeed in passing that.
Kandahar said:A shock-and-awe campaign, followed by an invasion, then an occupation lasting no more than six months.
Navy Pride said:1. When your in a war things don't always go as planned.......
Navy Pride said:2. That remains to be seen and it depends who you ask.....
Navy Pride said:3. So your for cutting entitlement programs.....Ain't gonna happen......
Navy Pride said:4. I agree but you will never get rid of the NEA as long as the dems are in their back pockets.............
Navy Pride said:Most of the problems money wise you mentioned would go away if you scarpped the IRS and tax system and go to a straight user tax........
Red_Dave said:I dont think repeating the same tatics of americas last two invasions would be a good idea. What america did in both afgainistain and iraq was effectively flatten these countrys in the name of humanitarian intervention. A better tactic would have been to Arm/fund the Kurds and the northern alliance enableing them to overthrow the Taliban and Ba'athists. This would save flattening these countrys and being an unpopular ocupation force.
Kandahar said:A shock-and-awe campaign, followed by an invasion, then an occupation lasting no more than six months.
-Demosthenes- said:Allow for tens of thousands of casualties rather than thousands. Sounds great.
-Demosthenes- said:And then leave rigth after the invasion right? Let the ruined system fall prey to a whol new dicatorship.
-Demosthenes- said:Hurrah for quick fixes. Lets leave Iraq right now, throw money at all of our other problems and the world will be perfect.
Kandahar said:There wouldn't have to be any casualties if not for Iranian belligerence. And it's just speculation on your part that there would be more casualties from a quick war than a long war.
Kandahar said:And as long as the new dicatorship stayed away from terrorism and nukes, there's no reason America would have to be its enemy.
Kandahar said:We need a quick fix with Iran. It's absolutely unacceptable to allow them to get nukes, and we don't have the resources for another prolonged occupation.
-Demosthenes- said:Superior force attacking a inferior force in a defensive position. Rushes in combat against the defensive inferior force will create more casualties than a steadier and slower approach would.
-Demosthenes- said:Yes, dictators are cool
-Demosthenes- said:Since a quick fix will kill more people and install another dictator in the place of the current, I think that it's a bad idea.
Kandahar said:You have absolutely no evidence or basis for that opinion. Speculation is fine, as long as you admit that you are basing that opinion on absolutely nothing.
Kandahar said:So you're saying that the United States should overthrow every dictator in the world just because we feel like it?
Kandahar said:1. It's just speculation that a quick fix will kill more people.
2. It's just speculation that another dictator (who is as bad as the theocracy) will take power.
-Demosthenes- said:It's military theory. Like it or not, military strategy will be based on military intelligence from studying hundreds of years of military history.
A Superior force attacks a defensive inferior force, assuming it is not a surprise attack and that the inferior force will not receive reinforcements, generally the slower the better for the superior force in terms of casualties. With almost a million and a half soldiers in the armed forces we could have had enough people to take Iraq in very little time, probably days. Instead we take weeks, why is this? To avoid casualties. Read a military history/theory book before you start calling it "speculation."
-Demosthenes- said:I guess you do like dictators. Maybe you should move to N. Korea or something, I think that you would like it there.
-Demosthenes- said:It's just "speculation" that if I throw something up it will come back down, but it will fall down anyway. These "quick fixes" have killed people for hundreds of year, it'll happen again.
-Demosthenes- said:Countries that become destroyed or poor don't turn to totalitarian style governments? China after WWII? Eastern European countries after WWII? It's just "speculation" that totalitarian style governments are not good?
-Demosthenes- said:When "speculation" is based on history then it becomes a very good predictor.
Read something.
Kandahar said:Funny, as most military personnel have reached the diametrical opposite conclusion about Iraq. The biggest flaw was that we DIDN'T go in with overwhelming force. But I guess you know more about military strategy than they do.
Kandahar said:Way to duck the question. Here it is again: So you're saying that the United States should overthrow every dictator in the world just because we feel like it?
Kandahar said:Another blind assertion with no supporting evidence.
Kandahar said:There are plenty of counterexamples as well
Kandahar said:Way to duck the question. Here it is again: What's your alternative suggestion? Let the ayatollahs get nukes, or spend trillions of dollars occupying Iran for years?
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