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Let's hear the best theories on NO and LV, given 'what we know'.

Chock Full o Nuts

Chock Full o Nuts

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Have at it! Wait,.. we already have. :cautious:

I mostly just sit back and read. Don't have time in life to give too much time into online arguments.

We've gone from Maga or Muslim, to home-grown military vet terrorist radicalized; Cybertruck, Trump hotel, military.

Accomplices, no Accomplices(due diligence?)

Both Fort Bragg. Both Turo app...

No clear connections last I read.. I await updates.
 
New Orleans attack:
My guess is it was a disgruntled man who turned to a radical group as a way of managing his failures and finding "purpose".

Las Vegas attack:
Hard to guess at this point with the little information we have. Not knowing his political lean or details about his life make it hard to speculate. Perhaps someone else who was going through a tough time and decided to end his life by making a statement.
 
I've cracked the code. When you put NO and LV together you get NOLV, or "Net Orderly Liquidation Value", which is the expected net value of liquidating a business after liquidating expenses are deducted.

Someone should check to see if either nutjob recently had a business that filed chapter 13 bankruptcy.

Hey, it's no more stupid than any of the other half-baked theories I've been studiously ignoring.
 
Chock Full o Nuts said:
Have at it! Wait,.. we already have. :cautious:

I mostly just sit back and read. Don't have time in life to give too much time into online arguments.

We've gone from Maga or Muslim, to home-grown military vet terrorist radicalized; Cybertruck, Trump hotel, military.

Accomplices, no Accomplices(due diligence?)

Both Fort Bragg. Both Turo app...

No clear connections last I read.. I await updates.
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Biden has been bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria. More than 100 strikes in the last month.

So ISIS is pissed and the people they've radicalized are acting up.
 
ElChupacabra said:
New Orleans attack:
My guess is it was a disgruntled man who turned to a radical group as a way of managing his failures and finding "purpose".

Las Vegas attack:
Hard to guess at this point with the little information we have. Not knowing his political lean or details about his life make it hard to speculate. Perhaps someone else who was going through a tough time and decided to end his life by making a statement.
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Quite a bit released now on NO driver.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html

Information about the driver so far indicates the "usual suspect." Male, several time loser, occupationally (multiple failures), financially, maritally (multiple marriages) Thank God he didnt go thru with his plan to gather and murder his family. As failures built up, a need to place blame...and an excuse. "Isis."

Family member said he recently became radicalized and they didnt want him near his daughters.
 
Allan said:
Biden has been bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria. More than 100 strikes in the last month.

So ISIS is pissed and the people they've radicalized are acting up.
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Gonna needa cite. The 100 strikes have eluded my feed. ;)
 
Lursa said:
Quite a bit released now on NO driver.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html

Information about the driver so far indicates the "usual suspect." Male, several time loser, occupationally (multiple failures), financially, maritally (multiple marriages) Thank God he didnt go thru with his plan to gather and murder his family. As failures built up, a need to place blame...and an excuse. "Isis."

Family member said he recently became radicalized and they didnt want him near his daughters.
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I've pretty well read all that is known until this point. Uncle of LV, etc..

I await what becomes known. The instant reactions and slowly fading blame, and onto a different aspects of 'them' tells me plenty about people I don't even know.
 
A sense of hopelessness, heavily involved in a feeling that one is irreparably broken. Probably heavily involves externalized rage at themselves.

Insane zeal from some cult-like cause.


Not necessarily in the order. I don't know. I can only think so much farther from the worst I've ever thought, and I can't get anywhere near this. Not even within sight, I hope.
 
Chock Full o Nuts said:
I've pretty well read all that is known until this point. Uncle of LV, etc..

I await what becomes known. The instant reactions and slowly fading blame, and onto a different aspects of 'them' tells me plenty about people I don't even know.
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Yeah, I guess the family's been untruthful 🤷
 
Lursa said:
Quite a bit released now on NO driver.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html

Information about the driver so far indicates the "usual suspect." Male, several time loser, occupationally (multiple failures), financially, maritally (multiple marriages) Thank God he didnt go thru with his plan to gather and murder his family. As failures built up, a need to place blame...and an excuse. "Isis."

Family member said he recently became radicalized and they didnt want him near his daughters.
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What they missed is that he was a huge Trump supporter who voted for him in Nov. Now it all makes some sense. Both were veterans that were born in the USA too.

Suspected Las Vegas Cybertruck Bomber Was a ‘Big’ Trump Supporter: Source​

Sources say Matthew Livelsberger, a Green Beret who enlisted in the U.S. Army as a teenager, was a fan of the president-elect.​

The man suspected of being behind Tesla Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas was a “big” supporter of Donald Trump and voted for him in November, a senior law enforcement official tells the Daily Beast.

That revelation came from an interview between Matthew Livelsberger’s loved ones and investigators, the source said. His family added that they believed the 37-year-old Green Beret, who died in Wednesday’s blast outside Trump International Hotel, had Republican leanings.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/las-v...ew-livelsberger-was-a-trump-supporter-source/

The revelation tracks with old Facebook comments and what Livelsberger’s uncle, Dean, told The Independent about his nephew’s politics on Thursday.

“He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American,” Dean said. “It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years.”
 
iguanaman said:
What they missed is that he was a huge Trump supporter who voted for him in Nov. Now it all makes some sense. Both were veterans that were born in the USA too.

Suspected Las Vegas Cybertruck Bomber Was a ‘Big’ Trump Supporter: Source​

Sources say Matthew Livelsberger, a Green Beret who enlisted in the U.S. Army as a teenager, was a fan of the president-elect.​

The man suspected of being behind Tesla Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas was a “big” supporter of Donald Trump and voted for him in November, a senior law enforcement official tells the Daily Beast.

That revelation came from an interview between Matthew Livelsberger’s loved ones and investigators, the source said. His family added that they believed the 37-year-old Green Beret, who died in Wednesday’s blast outside Trump International Hotel, had Republican leanings.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/las-v...ew-livelsberger-was-a-trump-supporter-source/

The revelation tracks with old Facebook comments and what Livelsberger’s uncle, Dean, told The Independent about his nephew’s politics on Thursday.

“He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American,” Dean said. “It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years.”
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Wow. I hadnt seen much on the LV driver yet.
 
Chock Full o Nuts said:
Have at it! Wait,.. we already have. :cautious:

I mostly just sit back and read. Don't have time in life to give too much time into online arguments.

We've gone from Maga or Muslim, to home-grown military vet terrorist radicalized; Cybertruck, Trump hotel, military.

Accomplices, no Accomplices(due diligence?)

Both Fort Bragg. Both Turo app...

No clear connections last I read.. I await updates.
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Likely individual, but the possibility of a Ft. Bragg connection hasn't been eliminated. I suspect TURO is about to see some new regulations.

warontherocks.com

We’ve Been Here Before: Learning From the Military’s History with White Nationalism - War on the Rocks

In February, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced a military-wide “stand down” after civilian and military leaders alike raised concerns about the
warontherocks.com
 
The first block of Bourbon Street off Canal is where most if the strip clubs are.


My theory is that the man following Islam to a T chose it as a representation of American debauchery.
 
mrjurrs said:
Likely individual, but the possibility of a Ft. Bragg connection hasn't been eliminated. I suspect TURO is about to see some new regulations.

warontherocks.com

We’ve Been Here Before: Learning From the Military’s History with White Nationalism - War on the Rocks

In February, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced a military-wide “stand down” after civilian and military leaders alike raised concerns about the
warontherocks.com
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How should Turo be regulated that would be different for any other car rental company?
 
 
I think the military screws up a lot of people. Humans aren't designed to witness and experience physical and mental trauma. It's a necessary function but it entails a huge cost.
 
tshade said:
Trump will likely go to bed with Isis, and he'll claim he caused 'peace'.................Trump has a history of appeasement
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Yes and inviting the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. All ISIS has to do is buy one of his guitars and say he is handsome and they are golden.
 
Chock Full o Nuts said:
Have at it! Wait,.. we already have. :cautious:

I mostly just sit back and read. Don't have time in life to give too much time into online arguments.

We've gone from Maga or Muslim, to home-grown military vet terrorist radicalized; Cybertruck, Trump hotel, military.

Accomplices, no Accomplices(due diligence?)

Both Fort Bragg. Both Turo app...

No clear connections last I read.. I await updates.
Click to expand...

A couple of angry losers, both resorting to extreme violence as their final **** you to the word, ending their miserable lives. The world is a better place without them.
 
Allan said:
Biden has been bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria. More than 100 strikes in the last month.

So ISIS is pissed and the people they've radicalized are acting up.
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What ISIS?
 
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