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Let's discuss the Resurrection of Jesus

Resurrection

  • The Resurrection IS the most likely theory on why Christianity is the biggest religion

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • The Resurrection IS NOT the most likely theory on why Christianity is the biggest religion

    Votes: 15 75.0%

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Because there are no eyewitnesses of the event, to prove the resurrection, one must show why it is the most plausible explanation for the historical data we have. I say it is considering how Christianity spread so rapid in Rome and Europe and how a Messiah who was CRUCIFIED and came from a shady background, the religion was basically set up to fail, but because the resurrection is fact, it spread so quickly.

What do you guys think?
 
It's a bronze age religion, It's not real, get over it.
 

William Lane Craig has made a fair argument for it.




He also has a very good book on the subject. “Did Jesus Rise From the Dead?”

The massive boom by Licona, “The Resurrection of Jesus: A New Histographical Approach.”
 
Yes william lane craig is good, it is really fascinating how there are no eyewitnesses yet still so much evidence
 

Wait, it spread because the "resurrection is fact"? How would the people to whom it spread know that it was a fact?
 
Let's put up an alternative theory which is just as credible as jesus resurrection.

http://www.counter-propaganda.com/?...=The owner of the tomb,eaten the body as well.

 
Didn't happen.
 
This guy thinks you need to 'prove' the resurrection story is indeed 'fact.'
 


Yes!

In a matter of just a few days - the apostles were all transformed from being so fearful that they went into hiding to suddenly becoming so full of courage that persecution didn't stop them from preaching. They were suddenly willing to die for Christ!
That collective confidence came from somewhere!

And there were many witnesses, about 500 people on various occasions. Imagine all those witnesses telling others of what they saw!

I think, the brothers of Christ became disciples only after the Resurrection. What changed their minds?
 
Wait, it spread because the "resurrection is fact"? How would the people to whom it spread know that it was a fact?



How do you think news travel in those days? Thru the CNN?

If a father comes home and excitedly tells of what he witnessed - wouldn't his family believe him?
What more when news spread that he wasn't the only one who saw it!
 



It is known what happened to the body of Christ - look at the title of the topic!

Your theory of cannibalism is irrational. Your article is only basing it on a metaphor ritual that commemorates the sacrifice of Jesus.
Lol. Your article claim something WITHOUT ANY WITNESSES WHATSOEVER - and yet, here we have 500 or so that witnessed the risen Christ!

That's what's so absurd.
You're willing to entertain a ridiculous notion without any witness or proof of any kind, and yet you close your mind to what is more
logically plausible!
 
Can anyone recommend a good DP type forum (small number of users who all are used to each other) where these kinds of topics are discussed?

Preferably one that is nonpolitical?
 
Such as???

Please provide a short and concise list of the top 5 most obvious pieces of “evidence”.

I give you a whole lot more than just 5.

500 witnesses.

Plus more......

501. Sudden transformation of the apostles (from hiding fearful disciples to suddenly gungho, without any fear!)

502. Explosion of Christianity in the region - AND eventually, BEYOND!

503. Willing martyrs.

504. LOGIC!
 
It's a bronze age religion, It's not real, get over it.

How dare you blaspheme thus? Thou shalt surely burn in the fires of heck.
Roman Levantine Period! Roman Levantine Period, dammit, not Bronze Age!
 


How do you think news travel in those days? Thru the CNN?

If a father comes home and excitedly tells of what he witnessed - wouldn't his family believe him?
What more when news spread that he wasn't the only one who saw it!

By your standard, Islam would also have to be true. Why aren't you a Muslim. God changed his mind once, why not twice?
 
I agree with the part of no eyewitnesses and no proof, the rest is fantasy in my opinion.
 
There is no proof of what happened to jesus's body assuming the myth actually existed.
All you have is a book of fairy tales about events that never actually happened telling you what happened.

The theory of cannibalism is even more plausible than an actual dead person coming back to life as there is far more evidence for cannibalism than there is for ressurrection.
 
We seem to have a difference of opinion here.
From tosca1:

And there were many witnesses, about 500 people on various occasions. Imagine all those witnesses telling others of what they saw!

And then from typical russian:
Because there are no eyewitnesses of the event, to prove the resurrection,

One of these two must be a lie. Can you tell which one is telling the lie?

And looking at tosca1's usual nonsense we see that he seems to believe that there were " various occasions. " Could it be in tosca's imagination that the crucifixion happened a few times in a few places
 
Tosca1 of course. The real question for me is what were they actually viewing on various occasions. Was the crucifixion staged a few times in various places?

If anyone actually saw anything (which I doubt), my vote would be that it was the ultimate twin prank.
 
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