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Let's Ban Pit Bulls

Slingshot Bob said:
The point is, I fabricate and ride, recumbent bicycles, I have rode across the state 6 times, cars are a much bigger threat...so what...should we ban cars?
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Of course not, Bob........cars have a useful purpose and are needed. Can't ban them.

Pit bulls have no purpose and are not needed.......CAN ban them.

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Vox said:
Of course not, Bob........cars have a useful purpose and are needed. Can't ban them.

Pit bulls have no purpose and are not needed.......CAN ban them.

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Yes we could, we could all ride bikes like me, the world would be a better place, I have towed 400 pounds on a bike trailer. Cars are dangerous, ban them.
 
They should ban all dogs, unless they are on a plate, filthy beasts.
 
I like my dogs with relish, and a good bath, smelly creatures.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
The link says it is a specific breed, not a pit bull at all, despite the opinion of one person seeing a photo. lol
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Except.......that breed FITS PERFECTLY the legal definition of "pit bull."

Remember?

Let's review:

Pit Bull Law and Legal Definition

A "pit bull," is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
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That's not my opinion, that's a legal definition.

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Here's the boerboel!

And, gosh........yes, it fits the legal definition perfectly........no sneaky way out for the owner of a pit bull.

The law is on the books.

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Today's Mayhem: Another Pet Attacked and Another Bull bites the Dust

We need a ban so we can walk our dogs in peace without the pit bull menace.

“He attacked my dog. Got him right on the neck,” says Cope.

He used his walking stick in an attempt to fight the dog off. A neighbor who saw what was happening offered pepper spray.

“Sprayed that, and it had no effect at all. The dog was just still clamped,” says Cope.
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Pit bull shot and killed after attempting to attack dog near Rancho and Oakey | KSNV

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Vox said:
So killing pigs is not killing? Now it's "working?"

LOL!

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Yes, feral hog hunting is working. Just as other dogs have been bred to hunt and protect livestock. this is the same thing. Your post reeks of ignorance.
 
Vox said:
Do you realize how absurd it is for you to continue to deny the legal definition of a pit bull?

I can take the word of the American Judicial System or I can believe you.........let's see......which will it be?????

Hmmmmm.......

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You have been embarrassingly schooled on your cognitive dissonance in your posts, you can post all the flags you like, doesn't change the fact that you choose ignorance.
 
Bereft of valid argument, RevHell must resort to repeated and silly personal attacks on me.

Which tells you everything about him and his defense of pit bulls.

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Vox said:
Bereft of valid argument, RevHell must resort to repeated and silly personal attacks on me.

Which tells you everything about him and his defense of pit bulls.

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The only thing my posts suggest is that I am rational, do not suffer from a paranoia of dogs, and instead choose to look at facts, not anectodals by a hysterical woman and her website.
 
Bereft of valid argument, RevHell must resort to repeated and silly personal attacks on me.

Which tells you everything about him and his defense of pit bulls.

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Great article on pit bulls from Nevada.

They have had an ugly spate of pit bull attacks recently.

Rivisto said many of the pit bulls that people acquire at a shelter are “not tempermentally sound.” He said people have bred them specifically to be aggressive. People get pit bulls as watchdogs but apparently don’t realize, or don’t care, that their loyalty only goes so far.

Pit bulls are descended from a now-extinct “large vicious breed used in the early 19th century sport of bull-baiting, where rowdy spectators watched dogs tear apart an angry bull.”

Rivisto said he has been contacted by local drug kingpins to train pit bulls to be particularly vicious when someone goes after their stash. No, he hasn’t taken their money.
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https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/...-living-down-to-their-well-earned-reputation/

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Snakebite said:
So you're just going to ignore all the stories on here of people who have been attacked by pitt bulls, or had their neighbors/pets attacked by pitt bulls?
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Man bites dog. Yes I'm going to ignore it. **** happens. The news doesn't report something unless it is sensational and can make them money. There is a reason they don't report on the time I got a screw in my tire or the time a collie mix tried to rip my face off in the animal hospital (was there assisting my relative on a weekend and this dog had major kennel aggression). **** happens and sensational news stories about "poor baby this getting hurt..." is a great way to keep dumbasses buying papers or clicking on their articles.

Let me ask you this...do you trust the media to produce accurate results when it comes to trends?

Now. Ask yourself...how many dog bites occur each year? How many of those are newsworthy? Then ask yourself...if someone owns a lab English bulldog mix...is that REALLY a pit bull? A dog that has 2 of the nicest breeds as it's genetic heritage. Why should that dog be stolen or shot by some raving lunatic? All because it resembles something that person is afraid of.


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Vox said:
"Shoot my dog and I'll shoot YOU!!!"

That's a dumb response.

All this talk of shooting (dogs and people shooting people for revenge) is disheartening.

If a dog has to be shot due to attacking a person or pet.......that's just the way it goes.

If a dog is scaring the kids next door by constantly barking at them.......that means you call the police and then your attorney if the guy won't listen to the police.

We are a society of laws.

I would be remiss if I didn't remind us that if pit bulls were banned we wouldn't be having this conversation........and it's coming slowly, but there is NO doubt they will be banned.

The victim numbers rise every day and victims of pit bull attacks get very, very active.

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They won't be. The intelligent and educated on dogs have already made it clear that the legislation is stupid and ineffective. Florida has adopted a policy against BSL. And Miami almost lost support (they are the only grandfathered in city here). Vets don't like it. Well known supporters have BSL have turned around their position.

Now it is only the reactionist cowards. There will always be people who demand more legislation, more government, to protect themselves from things they aren't capable of understanding. Like gun control.


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Vox said:
Bereft of valid argument, RevHell must resort to repeated and silly personal attacks on me.

Which tells you everything about him and his defense of pit bulls.

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The problem here is that your arguments have been smacked down SOOO many times that it is clear that not an ounce of logic or reason will get through to you.

You are a reactionist afraid of a certain type of dog because you read something about it on the news. I'm guessing something happened in your area and now you are just afraid for your life...even though the odds of you even being looked at funny by a pit are probably the same as getting struck by lightning. You are just like the one woman crusade on the website you constantly quote.

Reactionist based out of fear. Not logic and reason. You are a grown ass man afraid of dogs. And your "evidence" is always nothing more than sensational news stories. Single incidents in a land of MILLIONS of dogs. You have TRIED to limit the discussion by claiming that any dog that fits an ambiguous (which surprise surprise...YOU are the only one that can actually properly interpret. Just like when gun control proponents limit the discussion and apply terms that are arbitrary and ambiguous. Just one more hack tactic to support a busted argument) definition is a pitbull. This has led you to claim dogs like Boston terriers and Rottweilers are pits. Dogs that no other human on the planet would identify as such. Further...you even claimed a dog with long fuzzy hair was a pit. All because of a pink nose. Never mind that Is something commonly found among many different dogs. Including the dogs that this was listed as being a mix of.

So please. Keep posting your crusade worthy statements here. It isn't strengthening your case. It is more evidence that you don't know anything about dogs.


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Vox said:
Bereft of valid argument, RevHell must resort to repeated and silly personal attacks on me.

Which tells you everything about him and his defense of pit bulls.

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Here is another fun track we can take. We are going to determine how well YOU can defend your own argument against yourself. So. Let's begin....

So do you believe that EVERY pit bull is a danger to society?


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blackjack50 said:
do you believe that EVERY pit bull is a danger to society?
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No.

But every pit bull IS a potential danger to society due to hundreds of years of careful and selective breeding as a killer.

Such genetics cannot be "trained out." The dog is a time bomb just waiting to explode.

The history of their disproportionate number of attacks that maim, kill and hospitalize hundreds of people and also kill about 40,000 innocent pets each year proves it.

No other dog has this horrific record of mayhem.......not even close.

Which is why pit bulls must be (and are being) banned.

There are many, many functional dogs that people can own and love as pets.

Why allow people to own a proven killer dog just so they can bolster their self-esteem problems by owning a dog with macho looks and reputation?

There is no reason to cater to sick and ignorant people who put their own dysfunction ahead of little girls getting their faces ripped off.

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Thus we continue to work to terminate this threat.

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Vox said:
No.

But every pit bull IS a potential danger
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So no. Not every pit bull is a danger. Got it. But every pit bull is a POTENTIAL danger? That's your reason for banning them?

to society due to hundreds of years of careful and selective breeding as a killer.

Such genetics cannot be "trained out." The dog is a time bomb just waiting to explode.

The history of their disproportionate number of attacks that maim, kill and hospitalize hundreds of people and also kill about 40,000 innocent pets each year proves it.

No other dog has this horrific record of mayhem.......not even close.

Which is why pit bulls must be (and are being) banned.

There are many, many functional dogs that people can own and love as pets.

Why allow people to own a proven killer dog just so they can bolster their self-esteem problems by owning a dog with macho looks and reputation?

There is no reason to cater to sick and ignorant people who put their own dysfunction ahead of little girls getting their faces ripped off.

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Thus we continue to work to terminate this threat.

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Edit...sorry said the same thing twice. Had to change that to make sure it was stated correctly.

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