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Let's Ban Pit Bulls

Today's Mayhem

The woman was bleeding profusely and had severe bites to her arms, face, and head. She was taken to the hospital and was last listed in critical condition.

When police went to the front of the home, a neighbor was yelling at the dog to try and get it to get away from the victim. When officers approached, they saw the 51-year-old man unconscious on the living room floor. Police said he was bleeding profusely from his wounds on his arms and face.

Police described his bites as "horrific".
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Pit bull mauls married couple in Roseville home; injuries called 'horrific' - Story | WJBK

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Vox said:
And what would you expect? They repeat the myth that......"There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill."

Which is a lie.

So there you go. You're quoting pit bull apologists again.

Get some new sources.

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The "lie" that you somehow cannot seem to prove is a lie. You know...by telling us what exactly makes a Boston terrier a pit bull. Or a rottie. Or an English bulldog or a pug.




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Vox said:
The REASON that there is indeed such a thing as a killer dog is that pit bulls (unlike any other dog) were carefully and selectively bred for hundreds of years to kill.......to kill bears, bulls and other dogs.

Over the last 40 or 50 years in America pit bulls were bred to be defense dogs.......fearful people craving the largest and most dangerous dogs bought them in the misguided hope that they were good family protection.

This resulted in a killer dog that may, as you say, seem quite "nice" and "friendly," sometimes for years and sometimes for its whole life.

But in some pit bulls, given the proper stimulus......actions of a child, an elderly person, a handicapped person, another animal and--often--even actions from its owner........the killing instinct will be triggered.

This fact is born out by a clear record of killing and disabling injuries.....dozens of deaths and hundreds of traumatic maulings that result in hospitalization every year--a record UNIQUE to pit bulls and exceeding that of ALL OTHER dogs put together.

This record CANNOT be explained by "bad owners" because there are bad owners of ALL DOGS.......but only pit bulls have this unique and horrifying record of mayhem.

So.......sorry, but the "bad owners" argument simply can't be true. It's a myth.....and an easily refuted myth.

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Which is all a complete lie. Which is why they are turning into service dogs. They are smarter than those who are against them.


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blackjack50 said:
The "lie" that you somehow cannot seem to prove is a lie. You know...by telling us what exactly makes a Boston terrier a pit bull. Or a rottie. Or an English bulldog or a pug.
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Irrelevant to the issue.

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blackjack50 said:
Rescued Pitbull trained as service dog for woman's seizures » DogHeirs | Where Dogs Are Family « Keywords: Pitbull, Service dog, seizures, ogden
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Pit bulls are always nice.......right up until they aren't.

If they were trustworthy the police would be using these big strong dogs on their K9 teams.

Tried and failed. Pit bulls are not just stupid......they're totally unreliable and unpredictable........and as dangerous to their handlers as to the criminals.

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blackjack50 said:
Which is all a complete lie. Which is why they are turning into service dogs. They are smarter than those who are against them.
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Calling me a liar again? That's not permitted here, remember?

You have to do better than that. You have to refute what I said.

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Great information about what we have to do and why and how--great information links!


What’s wrong with pit bulls?

But aren’t I helping if I adopt a pit bull?

Why are pit bulls so popular if they are dangerous?

What about adopting from shelters and rescue groups?

What makes pit bulls more dangerous than other dogs?

What does National Pit Bull Victim Awareness want?

What can I do to help?
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National Pit Bull Victim Awareness

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Great article here......sad story, but important.

A short time ago, a well-meaning but foolish young couple in my town adopted a "rescue" dog from New Jersey. It was a heavy (60-80 lbs) two-year-old Pit Bull. Scary, but they had attended several training sessions learning how to bond with the animal and overcame their fright by telling themselves they were doing a good thing.

By "rescuing" it.

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Blog: Time to ban Pit Bulls in the USA

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Vox said:
Irrelevant to the issue.

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It actually is relevant. If you want to prove that a pit bull is dangerous...and other large breeds are not...you have to establish what exactly defines a pit bull. In the context of that discussion you claimed a Rottweiler is a pit bull. Yet for some reason you cannot provide us with what specifically defines it as a pit bull. All you can tell us is that it "fits" a random link that alleges that to be considered a pit bull...it has to have a majority of a set of characteristics.

But when you claim these dogs are "pit bulls," you can't seem to tell us what characteristics they have that make them pit bulls? And there really is no logical reason for you to avoid telling us what these specific characteristics are...unless of course...these characteristics are incredibly broad and thus would define any large breed as a pit bull (which is not the case sense you are claiming English bulldogs and Boston terriers are pits).

OR the more likely...is that they are completely arbitrary characteristics that YOU have personally decided. And that constitutes a huge conflict here since you seem to think YOU are qualified to determine what IS and is NOT a pit bull...and you want other people's dogs to be killed just for fitting your arbitrary definition. How do we know you won't start defining chihuahuas and poodles as pit bulls? You have already demonstrated that weight isn't a factor.

Can you tell us why a poodle isn't a pit? But a Boston terrier is?


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Vox said:
Pit bulls are always nice.......right up until they aren't.

If they were trustworthy the police would be using these big strong dogs on their K9 teams.

Tried and failed. Pit bulls are not just stupid......they're totally unreliable and unpredictable........and as dangerous to their handlers as to the criminals.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-breed-of-police-dogs-pit-bulls-1491134406

I think I will listen to the k9 officers over you. They are experts. You aren't. You are a cynophobe.


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Vox said:
Calling me a liar again? That's not permitted here, remember?

You have to do better than that. You have to refute what I said.

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It is an observation that your position has contradicted itself. You have stated something that is untrue. That is known as a lie.


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Man it seems with all this anti pit bull sentiment...we are forgetting that they are more intelligent than people who are anti pit bull. They make great scent dogs.


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blackjack50 said:
Can you tell us why a poodle isn't a pit? But a Boston terrier is?
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Poodle isn't a pit bull because it doesn't conform to the legal definition of a pit bull.

Boston terrier conforms quite closely to the standards of the legal definition of pit bull, so it could be ruled a pit bull.

A "pit bull," is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
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