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Let's Ban Pit Bulls

Vox said:
And I think you are selling yourself long.

So we disagree.

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But by your logic, since I can identify actual American Pit Bull Terriers and you cannot, I am at least of average intelligence, and according to you and your inability to, again, according to you, are not at the average intelligence level since you are unable to identify a pit bull correctly/


These are your words, your standards, not mine.
 
Vox said:
Except that "a dog, of any breed".......say a poodle or golden retriever..... would just bark and nip and would not have the equipment or the carefully and selectively bred massive jaws and over muscled body and the strength and instinct to kill and would not have been ABLE to rip her open so her internal organs were showing and put her in the hospital in critical condition.

There's that tiny, tiny difference.

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Jaws of a pitbull are proportional to the size of the dog. My pitbull's jaws are much smaller than the Chocolate Lab we used to have.

Pit bulls are not bred to be human aggressive.


Those are the facts. you keep posting lies.
 
Just to interject a bit of levity into the topic. I can prove that Pit Bulls are evil. At least the one I was dealing with was.

Working nights while my wife was home. We were house sitting for a friend while they were away and they had a Pit Bull. I tucked my wife into bed and kissed her goodnight.

Next morning I come home and she's sleeping on the rather uncomfortable sofa. I asked her "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?"

Turns out that the dog woke my wife up in the middle of the night whimpering like it had to go out. Wife wakes up and goes to the back door to let the dog outside to do her business. Fenced in yard and all that. Dog gets halfway across the kitchen, looks at my wife, grins as only Pit Bulls can grin and ran back to the bedroom.

Jumped onto the bed and just to be a butthole, stretched out from tail to nose diagonally across the bed so my wife could not sleep there. And somehow managed to add on a couple of hundred pounds because the wife could not shift the dog at all.

Much cussing ensued and wife went to sleep on the couch.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.
 
Vox said:
Except that "a dog, of any breed".......say a poodle or golden retriever..... would just bark and nip and would not have the equipment or the carefully and selectively bred massive jaws and over muscled body and the strength and instinct to kill and would not have been ABLE to rip her open so her internal organs were showing and put her in the hospital in critical condition.

There's that tiny, tiny difference.

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German Shepherds
German shepherd attacks Portage city workers, then turns on owner | MLive.com
Postal workers aim to prevent dog attacks - News - Citizens' Voice
Dog owner seeking stiffer fines after collies attacked - The Sarnia Journal


Chow
Williamson County deputy shoots dog that attacked woman | KXAN.com
Dog involved in Mendota attack euthanized by county | Free | newstrib.com


Police dog
http://www.colliemail.com.au/story/4569447/police-dog-attacks-woman/?cs=2452

Boxer:
https://www.ksl.com/?sid=43908362&nid=148

Akita and rotty
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull...lands-avenue/story-30271668-detail/story.html


rottweillers
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/wal...-the-dogs-were-eating-the-man-alive/504358924
http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/new...ion_of_Rottweiler_after_attacks_on_neighbour/
http://cyprus-mail.com/2017/04/01/girl-injured-dog-attack/


Golden labrador
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/local...new-nose-after-attack-by-family-dog/429958050


JAck Russel terrier
http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/06/teena...-being-bitten-by-crazed-jack-russell-6557548/



It's easy to cherry pick sensationalized head lines to demonize something.


but the science doesn't agree with you.

"A study conducted at the University of Florida found only 36 percent of sheltered dogs labeled as pit bulls had “true” pit bull DNA, and only half of dogs labeled as pit bulls had any pit bull-type breed DNA."

http://www.maddiesfund.org/Document...correct Breed Identification Study Poster.pdf


I know, it's that pesky science thing again stealing all your hysterical emotional thunder.
 
Vox said:
You lacked a link to the actual study........

Which is no big thing, as the "study" turned out to be bogus (as explained above).

You should read these "studies" before posting them.......they are like anything else--some valid, some not.

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Now you're just embarrassing yourself. Here, again, is the link: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

Here is the post in which I provided the link: https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...605-lets-ban-pit-bulls-75.html#post1067102690

Perhaps the red font's "The link is fine" distracted you somehow?
 
Hypnotoad said:
Just to interject a bit of levity into the topic. I can prove that Pit Bulls are evil. At least the one I was dealing with was.

Working nights while my wife was home. We were house sitting for a friend while they were away and they had a Pit Bull. I tucked my wife into bed and kissed her goodnight.

Next morning I come home and she's sleeping on the rather uncomfortable sofa. I asked her "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?"

Turns out that the dog woke my wife up in the middle of the night whimpering like it had to go out. Wife wakes up and goes to the back door to let the dog outside to do her business. Fenced in yard and all that. Dog gets halfway across the kitchen, looks at my wife, grins as only Pit Bulls can grin and ran back to the bedroom.

Jumped onto the bed and just to be a butthole, stretched out from tail to nose diagonally across the bed so my wife could not sleep there. And somehow managed to add on a couple of hundred pounds because the wife could not shift the dog at all.

Much cussing ensued and wife went to sleep on the couch.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.
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You should do something about those eels. (An bhfuil Gaeilge agat?)
















Do you speak Gaelic
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You should do something about those eels. (An bhfuil Gaeilge agat?)
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Not yet, but when my tax refund comes in there's a copy of Rosetta Stone Irish Gaelic with me name on it.

The quote comes from this page that translated "My hovercraft is full of eels" into MANY languages. Gaelic being just one of many.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Not yet, but when my tax refund comes in there's a copy of Rosetta Stone Irish Gaelic with me name on it.

The quote comes from this page that translated "My hovercraft is full of eels" into MANY languages. Gaelic being just one of many.
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yeah I've seen that. My family is Irish and we speak it some. When learning if you need help with a translation especially one in context of irish culture, shoot me a pm.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Except that the APBT isn't the only breed that has those qualities. There are others that are overly muscled, heavy-jawed, breeds that could do significant damage if they had their mind set on it.
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They are all pit bulls under the law.......read the legal definition of pit bull posted above.

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nota bene said:
Now you're just embarrassing yourself. Here, again, is the link: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

Here is the post in which I provided the link: https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...605-lets-ban-pit-bulls-75.html#post1067102690

Perhaps the red font's "The link is fine" distracted you somehow?
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All you linked to was a summary.......which didn't say much. No access to the actual "study."

As I said, no big deal because the study was bogus anyway.

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Vox said:
They are all pit bulls under the law.......read the legal definition of pit bull posted above.

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So...a Rottweiler or a Bull Mastiff qualify as pit bulls?
 
Vox said:
All you linked to was a summary.......which didn't say much. No access to the actual "study."

As I said, no big deal because the study was bogus anyway.

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I linked to the whole study. which I found by following the links. You are seriously stating that a scientific study is "bogus" while the screeching of an activist web designer is reality?


You had the study, don't lie.
 
Hypnotoad said:
So...a Rottweiler or a Bull Mastiff qualify as pit bulls?
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This d00d literally called a lab/retriever mix a "pit bull".

He also believes they have "massive jaws" that exert an insane amount of pressure, need 16 bullets to stop, although you can't shoot them in the head because the heads are "bullet proof". I **** you not, this is what this guy has posted.
 
Vox said:
Except I've identified pit bulls correctly and you have failed.

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You identified a lab/retriever mix as a "put bull", that would be incorrect. You also identified several large molloser dogs not related to any of the 4 actual "pit bull" breeds as "pit bulls".


I show you a picture of a two black dogs and you are incapable of identifying which one is the pitbull. so no..... no you have not.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Jaws of a pitbull are proportional to the size of the dog. My pitbull's jaws are much smaller than the Chocolate Lab we used to have.
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And some pit bulls have jaws much larger and stronger than any lab. It just depends on which mongrels are in their bloodline.

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Vox said:
And some pit bulls have jaws much larger and stronger than any lab. It just depends on which mongrels are in their bloodline.

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The **** you talking about? so are you saying that if a pit bull is below a certain size it is no longer a pitbull? What's the cutoff?
 
Cigar said:
My Dog is half Lab/Pit 8 years old ... and he'll have no problem letting you know the Pit half.

... and I'm just fine with it.
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I'm going through finding all of Vox's absurd statements and would just like to point out, if your dog is people aggressive it is more likely the lab than the pit in it. you should educate yourself on the breed so you don't spread misinformation that people like VOX use as justification to murder dogs like yours.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
but the science doesn't agree with you.
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No, the science doesn't agree with you. Pit bulls kill and maim in high numbers......over and over......day after day.

Maulings and killings by other dogs are a tiny percentage of those of pit bulls.

31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
In 2016, the combination of pit bulls (22), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (2) contributed to 84% (26) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog cases involved dogs acquired in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
Labradors and their mixes contributed to 3 deaths in 2016, followed by 6 breeds, each with 2 deaths: American bulldog, Belgian malinois, doberman pinscher, German shepherd, mixed-breed, rottweiler and 2 cases with unreleased breed data.
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2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org

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ReverendHellh0und said:
I'm going through finding all of Vox's absurd statements and would just like to point out, if your dog is people aggressive it is more likely the lab than the pit in it. you should educate yourself on the breed so you don't spread misinformation that people like VOX use as justification to murder dogs like yours.
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I don't loose a microsecond of sleep worrying about what some mythical individual could do to my Dog. ;)

He's almost 9 years old, we're both doing just fine educating everyone else.

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31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
In 2016, the combination of pit bulls (22), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (2) contributed to 84% (26) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog cases involved dogs acquired in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
Labradors and their mixes contributed to 3 deaths in 2016, followed by 6 breeds, each with 2 deaths: American bulldog, Belgian malinois, doberman pinscher, German shepherd, mixed-breed, rottweiler and 2 cases with unreleased breed data.
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And that's just the KILLINGS.

Pit bulls kill in the 20s and 30s every year (along with tens of thousands of pets that they kill).

Maulings per year by pit bulls number in the hundreds.

All in all.......you haven't a leg to stand on in your defense of these dangerous animals.

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