Lester was a schill last night, as usual

[Conservative]

Why do you have so much trouble with the simple request that you reply to what I say and not what you wanted me to have said so you can argue as you want to regardless of what I actually said?

I have replied to what you say, maybe it is you who doesn't understand what you are posting before hitting the enter key. Everything you post about Trump is conjecture on your part based upon your perception and what you hear. Research is something you don't understand just like most in the media who play to your emotions which are the basis of the liberal vote. What Hillary says and what she has done are two different things. Why is it that results don't matter but rhetoric does?

 

[calamity]

Of course not, you have that entitlement and appeasement mentality buying the Hillary and leftwing rhetoric and marketing

lol...aren't you the one getting a government check every month?

I'm the one who is actually paying your bills.

 

[yankintx]

From my understanding, a political debate is where the mod asks a challenging political platform question and each candidate takes a swing at it. The the folks make their judgements.

Less-ter Holt asked Trump several direct questions last night:

1. When will you release your taxes?
2. Birther
3. Racism
4. Observations of Hillery

These aren't things Hillery could be provided equal response on, except maybe to pile on with Lester. But isn't it awesome that the liberal media is so stupid as to think the People won't notice this serious bias?
What Less-ter, no Benghazi? No Clinton Foundation? No lying to the Feds? No deleting email? No Bernie Sanders scandal-ism? No hard ball for Clinton at all? She was in her power suit Less. She can handle it.

Why aren't you 50 points ahead Hillery? Because the people are sick of your over-polished BS, and the sycophant media.

And that red power pants suit. Awesome. It just screamed "please don't think I'm weak"

Ah the blame game, its no ones fault but the guy who did not do his homework, an amateur at debating, glaringly obvious.

Lester had a tough job keeping that bull in a china shop to keep to the rules. I have seen many Presedental debates, going back to 1980, never seen such a piss poor performance from a canidate at this level. He had an ok 30 minutes, then was ripe for the picking.

 

[Conservative]

lol...aren't you the one getting a government check every month?

I'm the one who is actually paying your bills.

No, I am getting a check from MY CONTRIBUTION to SS. I do understand how people like you believe it is the government's money but I was forced to contribute to SS so getting my money back at very low interest rates is something I and everyone else who was forced into SS deserves

 

[Conservative]

Ah the blame game, its no ones fault but the guy who did not do his homework, an amateur at debating, glaringly obvious.

Lester had a tough job keeping that bull in a china shop to keep to the rules. I have seen many Presedental debates, going back to 1980, never seen such a piss poor performance from a canidate at this level. He had an ok 30 minutes, then was ripe for the picking.

Isn't it interesting how doing your homework ignores looking at Hillary's accomplishments or lack of them? Isn't it interesting how rhetoric trumps performance in the liberal world and yours?

 

[calamity]

No, I am getting a check from MY CONTRIBUTION to SS. I do understand how people like you believe it is the government's money but I was forced to contribute to SS so getting my money back at very low interest rates is something I and everyone else who was forced into SS deserves

excuses

You draw a government check and get government healthcare. I do not.

So, watch who you accuse of being entitlement.

 

[Conservative]

excuses

You draw a government check and get government healthcare. I do not.

So, watch who you accuse of being entitlement.

Both of which I was forced into and now you don't expect me to get any of my contributions back? Where did you get your education because you are part of the big govt. solution to every problem. How liberal of you

 

[calamity]

Both of which I was forced into and now you don't expect me to get any of my contributions back? Where did you get your education because you are part of the big govt. solution to every problem. How liberal of you

Quit whining. If you're anywhere my dad's age, your return on investment re SS and MC is outrageously high. I pay more in one year than you did in 10. You draw more out in one year than you probably paid in for the first 20 years of your career.

 

[Conservative]

excuses

You draw a government check and get government healthcare. I do not.

So, watch who you accuse of being entitlement.

Unfortunately you join the ranks of far too many who don't understand the taxes you pay and what they fund playing right into the leftwing marketing hands as well as the media who are doing their best to indoctrinate you just to keep the status quo. I paid into SS and Medicare for over 35 years and you are probably doing the same thing. Take that money and put it into an investment calculator and see how much you would have with 35 years of contributions and the difference being it would be your money and your family's not an annuity that your family loses when you die

 

[yankintx]

Isn't it interesting how doing your homework ignores looking at Hillary's accomplishments or lack of them? Isn't it interesting how rhetoric trumps performance in the liberal world and yours?

Care to addrees your boys crappy debate performance, the one the press calls orange crush?

 

[Conservative]

Quit whining. If you're anywhere my dad's age, your return on investment re SS is outrageously high. I pay more in one year than you did in 10. You draw more out in one year than you probably paid in for the first 20 years of your career.

Just goes to show how poorly informed you are. Very easy to refute, just take the money you put into SS and Medicare along with what your employer puts into the fund, put it into a simple investment calculator and average interest rates and see what you would have.

You are indeed a legend in your own mind having no idea how much I paid or put into SS and Medicare. There is a limit on what you put into SS and Medicare each year but obviously you don't understand that. The problem is you have been indoctrinated into believing what the govt. tells you and not what is reality

 

[Conservative]

Care to addrees your boys crappy debate performance, the one the press calls orange crush?

I think the fund raising addresses your claims just like I have in stating that rhetoric trumps reality. What makes you or anyone else believe that Hillary is going to do what she says when she hasn't done any of that the last 10 years?

 

[calamity]

Unfortunately you join the ranks of far too many who don't understand the taxes you pay and what they fund playing right into the leftwing marketing hands as well as the media who are doing their best to indoctrinate you just to keep the status quo. I paid into SS and Medicare for over 35 years and you are probably doing the same thing. Take that money and put it into an investment calculator and see how much you would have with 35 years of contributions and the difference being it would be your money and your family's not an annuity that your family loses when you die

I'm not happy about a lot of things my money gets used for. Trust me. But, I'm not going to vote for a fascist who can't even come up with a coherent solution to the many problems we face as a nation except to blame it on Mexico.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Jeesh....

 

[Conservative]

I'm not happy about a lot of things my money gets used for. Trust me. But, I'm not going to vote for a fascist who can't even come up with a coherent solution to the many problems we face as a nation except to blame it on Mexico.

You call him a fascist apparently not understanding basic civics or the Constitution. You also don't seem to understand the term but buy the leftwing spin. If you lived in a border state you would understand but apparently not. it is the role of the Federal Govt. to Defense all citizens by providing for the common defense, not allowing illegals to drain the resources of the states on their social needs.

 

[calamity]

You call him a fascist apparently not understanding basic civics or the Constitution. You also don't seem to understand the term but buy the leftwing spin. If you lived in a border state you would understand but apparently not. it is the role of the Federal Govt. to Defense all citizens by providing for the common defense, not allowing illegals to drain the resources of the states on their social needs.

I would gladly write a check doubling my annual SS payment just to see your face after Hillary becomes president.

bye

 

[haymarket]

I have replied to what you say, maybe it is you who doesn't understand what you are posting before hitting the enter key. Everything you post about Trump is conjecture on your part based upon your perception and what you hear. Research is something you don't understand just like most in the media who play to your emotions which are the basis of the liberal vote. What Hillary says and what she has done are two different things. Why is it that results don't matter but rhetoric does?

NO - you want to argue the virtues of Hillary Clinton which I have not done. You did this in your recent posts 685 and did ti again in 687 and did it again in 689. You want me to do that so you can go off on Clinton with you prepared litany of her sins and shortcomings. I accept that she has sins and shortcomings and there is no reason for me to argue otherwise.

I told you I would vote for Clinton because I see a possible fascist administration under Trump. And that trumps and problems Clinton has.

 

[Conservative]

I would gladly write a check doubling my annual SS payment just to see your face after Hillary becomes president.

bye

What a selfish attitude you have ignoring the harm this incompetent will do to the Country. Noticed you have yet to office one successful result of the Hillary term in the public eye but because you want to believe the rhetoric that is good enough for you. We have a strong national defense and the military is supporting Trump, wonder why?

 

[haymarket]

Screw them. 538 is showing Florida back in the Hillary column and giving her a 62% chance to win the presidency now. This was close to 50-50 on Monday night, with Florida solidly in the Trump column. PA, MI and VA are completely out of his reach now.


I'd watch for Ohio to move toward Clinton over the next week or two.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

This is over

Thank you for that valuable update and welcome data. eace

 

[Conservative]

NO - you want to argue the virtues of Hillary Clinton which I have not done. You want me to do that so you can go off n Clinton with you prepared litany of her sins and shortcomings. I accept that she has sins and shortcomings and there is no reason for me to argue otherwise.

I told you I would vote for Clinton because I see a possible fascist administration under Trump. And that trumps and problems Clinton has.

The choice is quite clear, Hillary or Trump and we know the Hillary record but because of the Trump rhetoric, that Hillary record is ignored. The Constitution doesn't support a fascist regime but this country cannot handle four more years of Obama policies and incompetence which Hillary possess. True change comes from not putting a politician in office who helped create the problems we have today. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

 

[Conservative]

Thank you for that valuable update and welcome data. eace

Real Clear politics has polls showing a different story but you choose to accept the ones that support your point of view. The question remains, why would anyone vote FOR Hillary? All I see are negative opinions of Trump and anti Trump rhetoric. If you cannot find a reason to vote FOR Hillary, stay home

 

[haymarket]

The choice is quite clear, Hillary or Trump and we know the Hillary record but because of the Trump rhetoric, that Hillary record is ignored. The Constitution doesn't support a fascist regime but this country cannot handle four more years of Obama policies and incompetence which Hillary possess. True change comes from not putting a politician in office who helped create the problems we have today. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

There is the danger. Trump has shown no particular respect for the Constitution or for rights. So a Constitutional barrier is not as significant for him as it would be for others.

Insanity is also chopping of your arm because your nails are too long. And that is what electing Trump would be akin too.

 

[haymarket]

Real Clear politics has polls showing a different story but you choose to accept the ones that support your point of view. The question remains, why would anyone vote FOR Hillary? All I see are negative opinions of Trump and anti Trump rhetoric. If you cannot find a reason to vote FOR Hillary, stay home

feel free to present those polls telling a different story and we can examine them. And I hope its not the outlier LA Times you have in mind since its been significantly different than almost all the others for quite some time now overestimating Trumps support.

 

[Conservative]

There is the danger. Trump has shown no particular respect for the Constitution or for rights. So a Constitutional barrier is not as significant for him as it would be for others.

Insanity is also chopping of your arm because your nails are too long. And that is what electing Trump would be akin too.

Then impeach him

 

[Conservative]

feel free to present those polls telling a different story and we can examine them. And I hope its not the outlier LA Times you have in mind since its been significantly different than almost all the others for quite some time now overestimating Trumps support.

Real Clear Politics has a number of polls. it does appear that overestimating Trumps support but not Hillary's is what the left does as well. There is a silent majority out there that will not be voting for Hillary and if enough, Trump wins. I know a number of people in NY who are strong democrats NOT voting for Clinton but rather Trump. These people are tired of the status quo and same lies and incompetence coming from Hillary. I believe there are more like that