Leftists constantly ask why we are such staunch supporters of the right to keep and bear arms. Here is my answer.

[Daddyo]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

 

[vegas giants]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

Kinderguardians!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chillfolks]

Feel better now?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

WOW, every Rightwing talking point ever presented, now repeated.

Since Righties are incapable of an original thought, like actually understanding what the 2nd amendment says, I have to wonder where they get their ideas.

Then it occurred to me:

 

[Daddyo]

WOW, every Rightwing talking point ever presented, now repeated.

Since Righties are incapable of an original thought, like actually understanding what the 2nd amendment says, I have to wonder where they get their ideas.

Then it occurred to me:

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How ironic lol. Our founders own words back my position and laugh at your version. Since you aren’t capable of understanding what, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed means, I suggest reading the founders own words like I have. Makes it pretty clear who they wanted to bear arms and for what reasons. Leaves zero doubt actually.

And all those talking points without a single even half hearted attempt rebut lol classic.

 

[Ambig]

Since you aren’t capable of understanding what, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed means, I suggest reading the founders own words like I have. Makes it pretty clear who they wanted to bear arms and for what reasons. Leaves zero doubt actually.

Yes, the Founders wanted militia members to bear arms, but clearly no one else.

Just read their words, like I have.

 

[Indlib]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

Yawn.

Republicans care about the 2nd, but the Trump right doesn't, they only care about Trump.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

Republicans, the party of "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!"

Absolutely pathetic excuse for an OP.

YOu should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Daddyo]

Yes, the Founders wanted militia members to bear arms, but clearly no one else.

Just read their words, like I have.

I have and you are half right. They did indeed want a well regulated militia. There are however dozens and dozens of direct quotes of those same founders saying things like….. "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms..." or "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Have you really read their words?

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Wow doesn’t that sound like us telling you about gun free zones and criminals choosing unarmed victims lol?

“To disarm the people...is the most effectual way to enslave them."

^^^^^^Our founders warning people like you that once disarmed you open the door for government to usurp your rights should they ever become tyrannical. Hell your side believed Trump was the one. Imagine if your side was right and not completely eat up with TDS and Trump was that evil enslaver of leftist filth. Now imagine neocons and trump jailing and killing leftists? You can do nothing to stop it disarmed.

Hope this helps you understand just how ****ing ignorant you are about our founders and the 2nd amendment. Educate yourself instead of vomiting the leftist talking points.

 

[Daddyo]

Yawn.

Republicans care about the 2nd, but the Trump right doesn't, they only care about Trump.

I am the trump right and I care about the 2nd amendment.

 

[Daddyo]

Republicans, the party of "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!"

Absolutely pathetic excuse for an OP.

YOu should be ashamed of yourself.

You are the reason like it or not.

Perhaps rebutting a single point would help your pathetic cause. Fact is you can’t.

Leftist filth make a living blaming everything bad on the right. It’s comical that you would risk being a hypocrite to say that. I’m blaming you as a joke. Every good joke has truth though which is why you won’t rebut it.

 

[braindrain]

Yes, the Founders wanted militia members to bear arms, but clearly no one else.

Just read their words, like I have.

Is that why they said the right of the people and not the right of the militia.

Is that why there are numerous quotes from the founding fathers saying the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

 

[braindrain]

I have and you are half right. They did indeed want a well regulated militia. There are however dozens and dozens of direct quotes of those same founders saying things like….. "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms..." or "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Have you really read their words?

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Wow doesn’t that sound like us telling you about gun free zones and criminals choosing unarmed victims lol?

“To disarm the people...is the most effectual way to enslave them."

^^^^^^Our founders warning people like you that once disarmed you open the door for government to usurp your rights should they ever become tyrannical. Hell your side believed Trump was the one. Imagine if your side was right and not completely eat up with TDS and Trump was that evil enslaver of leftist filth. Now imagine neocons and trump jailing and killing leftists? You can do nothing to stop it disarmed.

Hope this helps you understand just how ****ing ignorant you are about our founders and the 2nd amendment. Educate yourself instead of vomiting the leftist talking points.

It really doesn’t matter how many times you show them the that. They will continually stick their fingers in their ears and pretend otherwise.

It’s almost as dumb as the claim that the 2nd only applies to guns from back then. But yet somehow the 1st magically applies to all modern technology.

 

[Daddyo]

Is that why they said the right of the people and not the right of the militia.

Is that why there are numerous quotes from the founding fathers saying the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

It really doesn’t matter how many times you show them the that. They will continually stick their fingers in their ears and pretend otherwise.

It’s almost as dumb as the claim that the 2nd only applies to guns from back then. But yet somehow the 1st magically applies to all modern technology.

Sadly you are right.

 

[Noodlegawd]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

Just to clarify, LA is not a third world shit hole. It's a first world shit hole. And most of the people fleeing from there are not illegal immigrants.

 

[NolanVoyd]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

Stop lying.

Leftists don't ask that.

Most leftists also support the second ammendment. The second ammendment has gray areas. The disagreements for most on the left and the right are in the gray areas, not about the 2nd itself.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

You are the reason like it or not.

Lol, nope. Everyone here can see through that pathetic whine you call an op.

You know who else tries that trick, right?

 

[Somerville]

Daddyo in post #9 provides a link to Monticello.org for support of the Thomas Jefferson words: "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Funny thing is when you go to that page, it doesn't support the claim. You must do a search for the quote and guess what? It's FAKE

Strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms (Spurious Quotation)

www.monticello.org

Earliest known appearance in print: 1989[1]

Other attributions: None known.

Status: This quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson. It is often seen preceded by the sentence, "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms," which is from Jefferson's draft of the Virginia Constitution.

References​

1. ^ Charley Reese, "Founding Fathers Gave Individuals the Right to Bear Arms," Orlando Sentinel, June 22, 1989. This quotation appeared in a number of publications in quick succession in the mid-1990s, including in The Militia Movement in the United States: Hearing Before the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology, and Government Information of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, One Hundred Fourth Congress, first session ... June 15, 1995 (Washington, D.C.: GPO, 1997), 120.

 

[Tigerace117]

It’s because of you leftists that’s why!

Just how you ask?

1. You elect marshmallow soft politicians and prosecutors who allow the violent criminal out of prison much sooner. This explains why recidivists account for 80 plus percent of those committing new violent crime. You force us to protect ourselves from these animals you release on us early.

2. You constantly seek to amend/repeal the 2nd amendment to eliminate private ownership of firearms. We are forced to resist this of course.

3. You are unable or unwilling to accept the words of our founders who expressed their opinions that the people should always be allowed arms. That ignorance could eliminate my right. Again forced to fight the ignorance and for my right.

4. You allow unfettered illegal immigration flooding our country with god knows who from third world shitholes. Many bringing that evil and lawlessness here.

5. Tax and spend policies crippling our economy and pushing us faster toward 3rd world shithole statues.

So in summary it’s you leftists that cause the pro gun crowd to take up arms. Now you know lol.

So in other words hysterical fear and active ignorance is why you cling to desperately to your toys. Noted.

 

[Somerville]

As with many other posters here on the DP forums, Daddyo and braindrain show their ignorance of American History with every comment in regards to the Second Amendment.

One example of legal codes in the 18th century, in Boston, following the finish of the Revolution, a law was passed that said citizens [white males] were allowed to keep a firearm in their residence but no gunpowder was to be present in the home.

 

[BlueTex]

I have and you are half right. They did indeed want a well regulated militia. There are however dozens and dozens of direct quotes of those same founders saying things like….. "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms..." or "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Have you really read their words?

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Wow doesn’t that sound like us telling you about gun free zones and criminals choosing unarmed victims lol?

“To disarm the people...is the most effectual way to enslave them."

^^^^^^Our founders warning people like you that once disarmed you open the door for government to usurp your rights should they ever become tyrannical. Hell your side believed Trump was the one. Imagine if your side was right and not completely eat up with TDS and Trump was that evil enslaver of leftist filth. Now imagine neocons and trump jailing and killing leftists? You can do nothing to stop it disarmed.

Hope this helps you understand just how ****ing ignorant you are about our founders and the 2nd amendment. Educate yourself instead of vomiting the leftist talking points.

How did they feel about arming Native Americans or black people?

 

[medi]

Folks, it is all cool to look at words written many years ago and understand this and understand that from those words, but the key is that the cats are out of the bags. And, yes, I mean that to be plural.

There are way too many firearms all over the nation for a downright ban to work. Plain and simple, no law enforcement entity has the resources to search every home, barn, warehouse, building in the U.S. of A. to find all the weapons that are out there. It just ain't possible. To heck with all the fancy talk, just one person inform me of who has drawn up the blueprint on the operation necessary to collect EVERY firearm in the U.S. of A. and then maybe I could start to have some faith in it being possible.

Oh yes, and it ain't just buildings you'd have to search. Many smart folks that wanted to keep theirs would bury them below the gardens/yards in lots of grease so they don't rust.

I also think there are a lot of people who know ways to make the ammo, so going after the ammo isn't going to work. I mean, if you want a total ban.

And how about your hunters. How about areas of the nation where a firearm might be necessary against wild animals. You going to include them in the ban? Or would that be your first loophole? And as soon as there is a "first" loophole, up pops a second. Then a third.

Nope, a total ban isn't going to solve the problem. Sounds cool. Reads cool. Makes some folks feel good. Makes some folks feel angry. But it is plain and simple nonsense.

Last thought, you are going to ban crossbows, too?

 

[RF667799]

As with many other posters here on the DP forums, Daddyo and braindrain show their ignorance of American History with every comment in regards to the Second Amendment.

One example of legal codes in the 18th century, in Boston, following the finish of the Revolution, a law was passed that said citizens [white males] were allowed to keep a firearm in their residence but no gunpowder was to be present in the home.

That's interesting. Where can I read more?

 

[braindrain]

As with many other posters here on the DP forums, Daddyo and braindrain show their ignorance of American History with every comment in regards to the Second Amendment.

One example of legal codes in the 18th century, in Boston, following the finish of the Revolution, a law was passed that said citizens [white males] were allowed to keep a firearm in their residence but no gunpowder was to be present in the home.

You claim I am showing my ignorance and yet you do nothing to demonstrate that. Hmmmm I wonder why.

 

[The flaming lib]

Yawn.

Republicans care about the 2nd, but the Trump right doesn't, they only care about Trump.

Well the first TDS post didn’t take very long