Leaked chart by Politico shows winners and losers in California's redistricting. Wow.

[Felis Leo]

Why are the leftists here advocating childish actions?

Because we want to win political power.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Why are the leftists here advocating childish actions?

Trump supporter.

 

[phoenix2020]

You know, you can say the same thing about red states. Here are the first few I checked, just at random:

Oklahoma: in 2024, 31% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 0% of the seats.
Florida: in 2024, 42% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 28% of the seats.
Wisconsin: in 2024, 48% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 25% of the seats.
Tennessee: in 2024, 33% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 11% of the seats.
Arkansas: in 2024, 31% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 0% of the seats.

And so on...

True but this doesn’t support the @JMB1911A1 narrative so he’s certainly not going to bother looking at the topic comprehensively.

 

[phoenix2020]

Why are the leftists here advocating childish actions?

Because they don’t care about your precious little feelings.

 

[Bullseye]

Why are the leftists here advocating childish actions?

Because they have no ideas that would benefit the people - they have the slimiest of chances of gaining any real power in 2026 and they know it.

 

[Gatsby]

How, exactly is Texas following its laws paid back by Newsom robbing millions of Californians their lawfully designed voting districts. Newscum shoe be impeached. And don't respond "Texas did it too" -Texas followed the law of the state for arguably the benefit of Texas.

Texas does it - "It's for arguably the benefit of Texas."
California does the exact same thing - "It's robbing millions of Californians."

I like how you included the word "arguably." At least you have the intellectual honesty and self-awareness that you can't even claim with a straight face it's a good thing when Texas does it.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Because we want to win political power.

Well, at least you are honest that you want a one party authoritarian state. As long as it’s your party of course.

 

[Gatsby]

Why are the leftists here advocating childish actions?

I'd be happy with a nationwide, nonpartisan algorithm to draw ALL congressional districts for ALL states. If you aren't interested in that, then you don't get to complain it's a "childish action" for California to do the exact same thing Texas is doing.

 

[Bullseye]

True but this doesn’t support the @JMB1911A1 narrative so he’s certainly not going to bother looking at the topic comprehensively.

Those numbers are likely a commentary on the poor quality of dem candidates.

 

[phoenix2020]

Those numbers are likely a commentary on the poor quality of dem candidates.

Wait, why would your opinion on those numbers matter? You literally live in a bizarre alternate reality where whatever Donald tells you to believe is the truth. I don’t see how some foot soldier who is required to believe that Kamala steers hurricanes, vaccines are chipped, Donald won 2020 and they’re eating the cats can be expected to form and hold a rational opinion on things like numbers and what they mean?

 

[Bullseye]

Texas does it - "It's for arguably the benefit of Texas."
California does the exact same thing - "It's robbing millions of Californians."

I like how you included the word "arguably." At least you have the intellectual honesty and self-awareness that you can't even claim with a straight face it's a good thing when Texas does it.

Simple I listen to Newsom. He's very specially addressing countering the DEMS IN CONGRESS. California has a non-partisan agency that apportions votes FOR CALIFORNIANS Maybe GOP can find a federal district judge to shut the whole thing down.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You know, you can say the same thing about red states. Here are the first few I checked, just at random:

Oklahoma: in 2024, 31% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 0% of the seats.
Florida: in 2024, 42% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 28% of the seats.
Wisconsin: in 2024, 48% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 25% of the seats.
Tennessee: in 2024, 33% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 11% of the seats.
Arkansas: in 2024, 31% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 0% of the seats.

And so on...

This is how a republic works.

 

[phoenix2020]

This is how a republic works.

Then why do you suppose @JMB1911A1 is so upset about it? Any chance you can connect with your fellow soldier and help him to understand that it’s okay for MAGA to gerrymander to their heart’s content?

 

[Lutherf]

I love the waty Gov. Newsom set this up. We'll do it if TX does it, if they don't, we won't.

Voters, this is our plan, vote for it and we will move if TX moves. Vote against it and we won't do it. Compare that to the wanna-be fascists in TX.

Who are you kidding? Newsom is going to do it anyway. he's invested enough political capital that he can't not do it! The only real question is how he's going to get around the commission and whether whatever he does holds up in court.

Once this goes through I figure Hochul will do something similar in NY, Whitmer will do something in MI and Polis will lock down CO. Democrats will likely pick up 20 House seats next year because of stuff like this. In fact, this is one of the things I LOVE about the Democrat concept of democracy. They HATE the concept and will do absolutely anything to insure that they don't need to compete in a democratic process.

 

[Gatsby]

Simple I listen to Newsom. He's very specially addressing countering the DEMS IN CONGRESS. California has a non-partisan agency that apportions votes FOR CALIFORNIANS

Yes. California passed a law for non-partisan redistricting. Newsom is advocating changing that law. Changing laws is allowed.

It would be nice if Texas and other Republican states would have reciprocated and passed non-partisan redistricting themselves so that it wouldn't come to this, but Republicans have made it clear they aren't interested in good governance. And so California needs to repeal their law. You aren't going to con Democrats into being suckers who unilaterally disarm while you keep right on pulling this shit anyway.

Maybe GOP can find a federal district judge to shut the whole thing down.

Why would a federal judge shut it down? On what basis?

 

[Bullseye]

Wait, why would your opinion on those numbers matter? You literally live in a bizarre alternate reality where whatever Donald tells you to believe is the truth. I don’t see how some foot soldier who is required to believe that Kamala steers hurricanes, vaccines are chipped, Donald won 2020 and they’re eating the cats can be expected to form and hold a rational opinion on things like numbers and what they mean?

This post say a lot about you. None of it good. Ignorance and insults personified.

 

[Lutherf]

You know, you can say the same thing about red states. Here are the first few I checked, just at random:

Oklahoma: in 2024, 31% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 0% of the seats.
Florida: in 2024, 42% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 28% of the seats.
Wisconsin: in 2024, 48% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 25% of the seats.
Tennessee: in 2024, 33% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 11% of the seats.
Arkansas: in 2024, 31% of the vote was for democrat representatives, but they got 0% of the seats.

And so on...

Have you taken the time to look at the national representation compared to the national popular vote? It's pretty doggone close to where it should be.

 

[phoenix2020]

Who are you kidding? Newsom is going to do it anyway. he's invested enough political capital that he can't not do it! The only real question is how he's going to get around the commission and whether whatever he does holds up in court.

Once this goes through I figure Hochul will do something similar in NY, Whitmer will do something in MI and Polis will lock down CO. Democrats will likely pick up 20 House seats next year because of stuff like this. In fact, this is one of the things I LOVE about the Democrat concept of democracy. They HATE the concept and will do absolutely anything to insure that they don't need to compete in a democratic process.

I’m all for Newsom going forward anyway.

Donald and Greg decided to FA, so I have no issue with the two of them now getting to FO.

 

[Gatsby]

Once this goes through I figure Hochul will do something similar in NY, Whitmer will do something in MI and Polis will lock down CO. Democrats will likely pick up 20 House seats next year because of stuff like this.

In fact, this is one of the things I LOVE about the Democrat concept of democracy. They HATE the concept and will do absolutely anything to insure that they don't need to compete in a democratic process.

If Republicans want fair districts, they can come to the table and pass a nationwide, nonpartisan redistricting compromise, to fix the problem that they created.
If Republicans want fair districts in Democratic states and gerrymandered districts in Republican states, they can go **** themselves.

 

[phoenix2020]

This post say a lot about you. None of it good. Ignorance and insults personified.

This post says a lot about your posts. Lots of vague claims and conspiracy theories, no facts, and a long string of failed attempts to own the left. Ignorance and insults personified.

 

[WorldWatcher]

That is not the US house districts. It is the state districts.

The graphic wasn't showing state districts, it was showing majority party in the Texas Legislature.

The thread back was trying to blame DEMs for districts and that the nice GOP in Texas was trying to fix the districts DEMs drew.

Yet the DEM's haven't been in power in the Texas Legislature for about 30 years.

So showing the majority party of the State Legislature shows that the current map being blamed on the DEMs isn't possible. The DEMs haven't been in control of map drawing for about 3 decades.

WW

 

[gbg3]

I haven't read anything in this thread yet so this may be somewhat off topic, but it is about CA redistricting.

One thing this whole redistricting topic has done for me, is make me far more aware than I was of just how much Dems have used redistricting previously. I started to hear reports of how, if this becomes a battle nationwide, the GOP has many more opportunities because the Dems have already done so much redistricting/gerrymandering. Additionally, the topic has reminded me of a story I vaguely remember. That is how many states were over and under counted in the last census and how both the over and under counted problems very largely benefited the Dem party.

Anyway, I saw this today and it's one good example of the gerrymandering Dems have already done. In CA, in the 2024 election, Trump got 38% of the vote but only 17% of the CA seats are GOP seats.

In the same election in TX, Trump got 56% of the vote and 66% of the TX seat are GOP seats.

 

[Bullseye]

This post says a lot about your posts. Lots of vague claims and conspiracy theories, no facts, and a long string of failed attempts to own the left. Ignorance and insults personified.

I forgot you fail to demonstrate original thought.

 

[The Brad Dad]

If California wants to play that game, there are more red states then blue states.

Yeah but red states don't have any people in them. You can't create more districts out of dirt.

 

[The Brad Dad]

That is because the Democrat positions are not welcome in Texas and they run such great candidates like Francis Robert O’Rourke, the fake Hispanic.

If it wasn't for identity politics, conservatives wouldn't have any.