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Lawyer Kenneth Chesebro, 'Architect' of Trump's 2020 False Electors Scheme, Has Been Disbarred

Callen said:
Only now?
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He pled guilty in his 2023 Georgia trial to a slew of charges, about 19 of them were charged. This latest was a disbarment hearing. One less of trump's finest-scumbag-lying-sleazeball" attorneys off the streets...only the best and lowest for our felon-in-chief!
 
Lursa said:
Feel free to keep humiliating yourself. The posts are there. I wish confusion was your excuse...you're embarrassing yourself intentionally.
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You keep accusing me of things I have not said. That should embarrass you, but it doesnt.
 
Fletch said:
You keep accusing me of things I have not said. That should embarrass you, but it doesnt.
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Lursa said:
Feel free to keep humiliating yourself. The posts are there. I wish confusion was your excuse...but you're embarrassing yourself intentionally.
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Fletch said:
Why should the architect of a plan that 'undercut the very notion of our Constitutional democracy' receive just a slap on the wrist?
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Fletch said:
<laughing>

You arent following along at all are you.
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That's it? That's really the best you've got? A limp-wristed non-sequitur to chicken out from answering the question?

You're trying to absolve Trump of any responsibility under the guise he was just following his attorney's advice. Said advice was to get uncertified Trump electors in the hands of Congress to challenge Biden's certified electors, in SEVEN states, in order to flip the election Trump lost.

YOU ask this thread's participants why Trump should be held liable for taking his lawyer's advice. But now you don't want to answer the obvious question. Advice of counsel can be an affirmative defense only if the client has no idea the advice is illegal.

So again, you think Trump thought it was legal to send uncertified electors to be used to discount Biden's certified electors?
 
Fletch said:
What do you base that on? Did his lawyers tell him what they were doing was illegal and unconstitutional?
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Based on the obvious, uncertified electors can't legally be sent to Congress.
 
Fletch said:
What do you base that on? Did his lawyers tell him what they were doing was illegal and unconstitutional?
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Trump knows that many of the things he does are illegal and sinply doesn't care.

That's been true his entire life.
 
Jagged said:
That's it? That's really the best you've got? A limp-wristed non-sequitur to chicken out from answering the question?

You're trying to absolve Trump of any responsibility under the guise he was just following his attorney's advice. Said advice was to get uncertified Trump electors in the hands of Congress to challenge Biden's certified electors, in SEVEN states, in order to flip the election Trump lost.

YOU ask this thread's participants why Trump should be held liable for taking his lawyer's advice. But now you don't want to answer the obvious question. Advice of counsel can be an affirmative defense only if the client has no idea the advice is illegal.

So again, you think Trump thought it was legal to send uncertified electors to be used to discount Biden's certified electors?
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That is contingent upon a legal victory disqualifying a vote count in any state but primarily in Wisconsin and is in line with the only other time this sort of thing was proposed which was Hawaii in 1960. It has been legal theory that any successful overturn of a count has to be backed by an alternate slate of electors, or the case is considered moot, and the original count would stand, regardless of whether it is overturned or not.

It's like all of this has never been cited or indicated at all, but it clearly was. This was the legal precedent about elections until Democrats decided to call it fake instead of alternate.
 
Peter said:
Trump knows that many of the things he does are illegal and sinply doesn't care.

That's been true his entire life.
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Why shouldn't he?

Money and power have saved him from virtually all legal consequences.

You'd think the fools that worked for him/continue to work for him would be able to figure out that they do not hold the same unassailable position.
 
OpportunityCost said:
That is contingent upon a legal victory disqualifying a vote count in any state but primarily in Wisconsin and is in line with the only other time this sort of thing was proposed which was Hawaii in 1960. It has been legal theory that any successful overturn of a count has to be backed by an alternate slate of electors, or the case is considered moot, and the original count would stand, regardless of whether it is overturned or not.

It's like all of this has never been cited or indicated at all, but it clearly was. This was the legal precedent about elections until Democrats decided to call it fake instead of alternate.
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Anyone citing Hawaii's case reveals they don't know what they're talking about.

Unlike Kennedy's real electors, Trump's fake electors were not certified. That's the difference. Well, that and Kennedy's slate, following a legal victory, had no impact on the election, whereas Trump tried to flip 7 states, with no legal victories, in order to flip the election he lost.
 
Fletch said:
Or, give sound legal advice. But go ahead and keep defending the lawyers because.....TRUMP!!!
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He may have benefitted from leniency in sentencing for the correct answer at the right meeting.

Fletch said:
What do you base that on? Did his lawyers tell him what they were doing was illegal and unconstitutional?
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On January 4 '21 Mike Pence met with Eastman, Trump and a few other lawyers. Pence heard Eastman admit it wasn't going to be upheld in the courts and Pence told Trump his own lawyer admitted the plan wasn't Constitutional.

FINAL REPORT of the Select Commitee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol

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"Eastman admitted, in front of the president, that both options violated the Electoral Count Act of 1887, the statute that sets forth the process for counting and disputing electoral votes during the joint session. Eastman admitted as much in a subsequent conversation with the Vice President’s staff as well.

Therefore, President Trump knew, or should have known, that this scheme was illegal—in fact, it violated the Electoral Count Act and the U.S. Constitution."
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One consequence is having his active career practicing law ended. He also has continued probation. The judge might have considered several aspects in sentencing.
 
soap box said:
He may have benefitted from leniency in sentencing for the correct answer at the right meeting.



On January 4 '21 Mike Pence met with Eastman, Trump and a few other lawyers. Pence heard Eastman admit it wasn't going to be upheld in the courts and Pence told Trump his own lawyer admitted the plan wasn't Constitutional.

FINAL REPORT of the Select Commitee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol

www.govinfo.gov



One consequence is having his active career practicing law ended. He also has continued probation. The judge might have considered several aspects in sentencing.
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It's shocking how some people couldn't care less that a sitting president tried to illegally flip an election. Regardless of party affiliation, identity politics is flushing this country down the toilet.
 
Jagged said:
It's shocking how some people couldn't care less that a sitting president tried to illegally flip an election. Regardless of party affiliation, identity politics is flushing this country down the toilet.
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Maybe they'll start to care when inequality is so bad that 99% of the population live way below the poverty line and the 1% with money all decide to bog-off to mars?
 
What would posses someone intelligent enough to get through law school and aware of Trump’s history of not accepting election results to come up with the scheme like that? How could he assume that it would ever work?
 
CaughtInThe said:
Everything Trump touches eventually dies...



"Chesebro and 16 co-defendants devised a scheme to submit false election results to Congress concerning the 2020 presidential election. The referee overseeing his proceeding in New York called Chesebro "the architect," of President Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the election, though Chesebro made efforts to combat that description."



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'Architect' of 2020 False Electors Scheme Has Been Disbarred in New York | Law.com

Former Trump adviser Kenneth Chesebro was disbarred from practicing in New York following his guilty plea in Georgia to a felony offense of filing false documents.
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No doubt there's a Cabinet position announcement soon...
 
Peter said:
Why bother with an actual rebuttal when you can simply say "TDS"?
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I think MAGA forgets that they are the ones afflicted with that, not the left. There's no other explanation for their subservient acceptance of a king.
 
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