Latest sanctions on Russia amount to economic warfare

[Westphalian]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

 

[OrphanSlug]

"Declaration of an economic war"... I see all kinds of good endings to this.

 

[Kal'Stang]

"Declaration of an economic war"... I see all kinds of good endings to this.

I'd be more worried about the "or, if needed, by other means." comment myself.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I'd be more worried about the "or, if needed, by other means." comment myself.

About that awakened Cold War that never ended...

 

[danielpalos]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

Is that what easterners want? How about a mutual non-aggression pact and a free Crimea?

 

[DaveFagan]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

What we are witnessing is the manifestation of the Economic Arm of Full Spectrum Dominance. The USA and its' forseeable never ending Trillion dollar deficits force the US to attempt to create a World Economic system that absolutely relies on the USA Fiat Currency Worldwide and everyone suffers if there is a default. That is what maintains the strength of the US fiat currency at this time. The Western banking monopoly of USA, Japan, EU, BIS, City of London, Saudi Arabia, and India as a swing state control economic movement, payments, currency trades, loans, etc. and use these as tools to reward or punish adversaries. Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran, Syria, Libya, Nicaragua, Cuba, and others are the current victims of these actions. The Western/non-Western balance of currencies used in World trade favors the West about 60%/40% and the 40% is growing. I think there is a strong Western fear that at 50%/50% the Western economic dominance fails. Trade wars, tariffs, sanctions, erc. are all weapons in this economic War. The USA is fine as long as it never has to pay its' debt. On the other hand, the debt is in dollars and if the currency is devalued, the debt might be minimized, or not?
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[Godric1970]

Is that what easterners want? How about a mutual non-aggression pact and a free Crimea?

never gonna happen the west brought it on itself when it used neo nazi groups like pravvy sektor, C-14 and Svoboda to violently overthrow the democratically elected president of Ukraine and NATO falls back to it's agreed line of East Germany

what Russia will almost certainly do is ban sales of the RD-180 and 181 rockets to NASA , probably end co operation with the ISIS, ban flights of all US aircraft over Russian federation airspace, ditch all trade with the dollar and use a gold back Ruble or trade with the Yuan and Euro, ban the sale of all nuclear fissile material to the USA, as well as rare metals the US has not got .... Russia can really hurt America if it wants to :mrgreen:

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Russia's hacking into power grids and poisoning people on foreign soil are also 'acts of war'.

 

[bearpoker]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

Didn't know Medvedev had such a flair for drama.

 

[Godric1970]

Russia's hacking into power grids and poisoning people on foreign soil are also 'acts of war'.

don't wanna say to much you yank Aholes have hacked every countries power grids and uploaded malware to shut them down .... you are no friend of the EU ... and until the UK provides any evidence to it's Euro allies it's all hearsay

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

don't wanna say to much you yank Aholes have hacked every countries power grids and uploaded malware to shut them down .... you are no friend of Europes ... and until the UK provides any evidence to it's Euro allies it's all hearsay

Yeah, Putin would never kill his enemies or attack neighboring countries. He's a swell guy.

But anyway the Brits need to provide evidence that Putin's killing people on their soil(and they pretty mush have BTW) but you don't have to prove to us 'aholes' that the US have shut down other countries power-grids? Convenient for you huh?

 

[Godric1970]

Yeah, Putin would never kill his enemies or attack neighboring countries. He's a swell guy.

But anyway the Brits need to provide evidence that Putin's killing people on their soil(and they pretty mush have BTW) but you don't have to prove to us 'aholes' that the US have shut down other countries power-grids? Convenient for you huh?

Britain will soon cease to exist so you do not speak for me or my country Scotland indyref2 is coming in 2 to 3 months time then the UK will be finished and if America decides to interfere like they did last time round .... do not expect any sort of relationship with Scotland

America shut down the power grid of Syria in 2012 and we have Snowden to thank for that .... Germany, France, etc all claim they have not been shown any evidence by the UK ... Austria refused to kick out Russian Embassy staff because the UK would not provide Austria with evidence

 

[OlNate]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

No...but it's all just theatre anyway.

 

[WCH]

don't wanna say to much you yank Aholes have hacked every countries power grids and uploaded malware to shut them down .... you are no friend of the EU ... and until the UK provides any evidence to it's Euro allies it's all hearsay

Hey, leave we Texans out of that "yank" business. We don't care for them.

Plus they have to hate Russia because they helped Trump win. ....not.

 

[danielpalos]

Should we ask the Greeks for a few good Macedonians, to secure our eastern flank?

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Britain will soon cease to exist

Check Please!!

 

[Rogue Valley]

My question: is this what westerners really want?

Return Crimea, get your military out of Ukraine, stop assassinating expats on foreign soil, stop all cyberattacks and election meddling throughout the world.

For starters.

 

[danielpalos]

Return Crimea, get your military out of Ukraine, stop assassinating expats on foreign soil, stop all cyberattacks and election meddling throughout the world.

For starters.

Capitalism, at flank speed!

 

[Godric1970]

Return Crimea, get your military out of Ukraine, stop assassinating expats on foreign soil, stop all cyberattacks and election meddling throughout the world.

For starters.

pot calling the kettle black ... the US has been doing this for decades and more .... you cannot claim the moral high ground .... American forces are in Syria illegally as well

when are you going to tell Israel to return the Golan heights back to Syria .... your rank hypocrisy is breath taking

 

[Fledermaus]

Britain will soon cease to exist so you do not speak for me or my country Scotland indyref2 is coming in 2 to 3 months time then the UK will be finished and if America decides to interfere like they did last time round .... do not expect any sort of relationship with Scotland

America shut down the power grid of Syria in 2012 and we have Snowden to thank for that .... Germany, France, etc all claim they have not been shown any evidence by the UK ... Austria refused to kick out Russian Embassy staff because the UK would not provide Austria with evidence

Britain is soon to cease to exist?

 

[Fledermaus]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

Russian posturing after they did something heinous....

 

[Chagos]

Russian posturing after they did something heinous....

Whistling in the dark to play to own gallery.

When it comes to retaliation, the only arrow in the Kremlin's quiver would be actual war (bang-boom and all that). That'll be fun to see them shoot own foot.

It's a bit like Erdogan threatening to freeze the assets in Turkey of the American justice and interior ministers, if they have any (such assets)

Note the bolded.

If you ever cross me here or elsewhere, I'm gonna let the air out of the tyres of your car. If you have one and, more importantly, park it within my reach.

As to the question of whether Westerners really want any of the empty threats to be put into practice, obviously none of us can speak for all Westerners. But I'd be more than happy to see the hand called, just as I'm very much okay with Kremlin shenanigans being sanctioned in the first place.

There is still far too much patience displayed for those thugs.

 

[late]

Weird thread.

 

[Casper]

Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev reportedly warned the U.S. on Friday that sanctions it plans to impose against Moscow over the nerve-agent attack of a former spy living in Britain could be treated as a declaration of an economic war.
Speaking during a trip to the Kamchatka region of Russia, Reuters reported Medvedev as saying: "I would not like to comment on talks about future sanctions, but I can say one thing: If some ban on banks' operations or on their use of one or another currency follows, it would be possible to clearly call it a declaration of economic war."
"And it would be necessary, it would be needed to react to this war economically, politically, or, if needed, by other means. And our American friends need to understand this," he added.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....o-economic-war--and-threatens-response-b.html

My question: is this what westerners really want?

Trade war with our major trade partners is bad and no one wins in the end. A trade war with Russia is one where they have everything to lose and the US wins without s shot being fired and possibly resulting in Putin being removed like the Czar was permanently.

 

[Rogue Valley]

pot calling the kettle black ... the US has been doing this for decades and more .... you cannot claim the moral high ground .... American forces are in Syria illegally as well

when are you going to tell Israel to return the Golan heights back to Syria .... your rank hypocrisy is breath taking

You can't justify Russia in Ukraine so you resort to propaganda 101 ... the Russian tactic of whataboutism.....