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Language nuances

Lead and led are different words. As are plead and pled. I go crazy seeing them misused. I note, however, that usage manuals are dropping them. I have also been frustrated that my journalism and legal writing style manuals diverge. I'm particular about where one puts punctuation and quotation marks. One says "statement", and the other, "statement." I use one or the other specifically, so some sentences are different.

The English language does have a lot of goofy things in it. My pet thing with lose and loose are that even the goofiness of English doesn’t excuse them. They are not pronounced the same and they don’t mean the same thing at all. They are totally unrelated except that one has an additional o in it.
 
"The pair of ya" lol.

In parts of the UK, pronouns used confuse me. Me v us, I.e. " give us a hug" when only you and another person are in the room.
Where did that originate?
I remember looking at that a long time ago, having grown up using "Gie's a" (Give us a ) as informal speech in Scotland, I was surprised to discover it in common use in the south of England too. It's strictly colloquial but pretty much universal in British English. Gizza break! ;)
 
If you run out of people before you get to ten, you can always just cycle back around again and keep counting until you get there.
In that case you would end up with zero people.

Not sure who kills the last person though. I guess he has to kill himself. Sucks to be him!
 
Lead and led are different words. As are plead and pled. I go crazy seeing them misused. I note, however, that usage manuals are dropping them. I have also been frustrated that my journalism and legal writing style manuals diverge. I'm particular about where one puts punctuation and quotation marks. One says "statement", and the other, "statement." I use one or the other specifically, so some sentences are different.
"Stacey enjoys cooking her family and her dog".

Oops.

"Stacey enjoys cooking, her family, and her dog".

Commas save lives.
 
I don't think "pled" is a word. It's pleaded.
Ah, them's fighting words.... ;)

It was pled long before pleaded, and there is a distinction:

One who has entered a "plea" has "pled", one who is seeking reprieve pleads, or, thereafter has pleaded. Thus, "He pleaded with the judge for leniency, but then pled guilty anyway."
 
Ah, them's fighting words.... ;)

It was pled long before pleaded, and there is a distinction:

One who has entered a "plea" has "pled", one who is seeking reprieve pleads, or, thereafter has pleaded. Thus, "He pleaded with the judge for leniency, but then pled guilty anyway."
I didn't know that.
 
Ah, them's fighting words.... ;)

It was pled long before pleaded, and there is a distinction:

One who has entered a "plea" has "pled", one who is seeking reprieve pleads, or, thereafter has pleaded. Thus, "He pleaded with the judge for leniency, but then pled guilty anyway."
Yeah, no.

Pleaded vs. Pled

Plead belongs to the same class of verbs as bleed, lead, and feed, and like them it has a past and past participle with a short vowel spelled pled (or sometimes plead, which is pronounced alike). From the beginning, pled has faced competition from the regular form pleaded, which eventually came to predominate in mainstream British English. Pled was and is used in Scottish English, which is likely how it came to American English. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, pled was attacked by many American usage commentators (perhaps because it was not in good British use). Though still sometimes criticized, it is fully respectable today and both pled (or plead) and pleaded are in good use in the U.S. In legal use (such as “pleaded guilty,” “pled guilty”), both forms are standard, though pleaded is used with greater frequency. In nonlegal use (such as “pleaded for help”), pleaded appears more commonly, though pled is also considered standard.

Well, it's a stupid word.
 
I remember looking at that a long time ago, having grown up using "Gie's a" (Give us a ) as informal speech in Scotland, I was surprised to discover it in common use in the south of England too. It's strictly colloquial but pretty much universal in British English. Gizza break! ;)
It's a bit silly, innit?
 
"Stacey enjoys cooking her family and her dog".

Oops.

"Stacey enjoys cooking, her family, and her dog".

Commas save lives.
"Let's eat, grandma" vs "let's eat grandma".
 
With English 'Had she gone she might have seen' merely implies mood, tense and conditionality that is evident with many other languages.

Also, our adverbs of time are willy-nilly. Try sticking an adverb of time out of place for Dutch or Italian. Enjoy that smack across your nose.
 
"The pair of ya" lol.

In parts of the UK, pronouns used confuse me. Me v us, I.e. " give us a hug" when only you and another person are in the room.
Where did that originate?
Reminds me of the guy knocking on the Pearly Gates and when challenged to identify himself says "It is I".

Whereupon Peter turn to his assistant with the complaint off " Oh feck, another friggin' English teacher."
 
"Pharao's army got drownded,
oh Mary don't you weep"

Reminds me of a visiting kid, when asked what stopped his ego-shooting computer game, replying

"I got dieded"

I mean, he couldof :p at least said "deaded".
 
With English 'Had she gone she might have seen' merely implies mood, tense and conditionality that is evident with many other languages.

Also, our adverbs of time are willy-nilly. Try sticking an adverb of time out of place for Dutch or Italian. Enjoy that smack across your nose.
Dey's not like we am.:LOL:

Can't remember in which English backwoods I heard that one but hear it I did,
 
If I shave, dress neatly, and drag a comb thru my hair after getting up, does that make me then look "shevelled"?
 
You are dapper, spiffy, well-groomed, and every girl crazy about a sharp dressed man.
I wonder how they'd take it if I claimed to be kempt.

Like maybe "piss off you pervert"?:LOL:
 
Heard in St. John, NB, “your mate is gonna take a heart-attack if he keeps dancing like that!”
 
Yeah, no.

Pleaded vs. Pled

Plead belongs to the same class of verbs as bleed, lead, and feed, and like them it has a past and past participle with a short vowel spelled pled (or sometimes plead, which is pronounced alike). From the beginning, pled has faced competition from the regular form pleaded, which eventually came to predominate in mainstream British English. Pled was and is used in Scottish English, which is likely how it came to American English. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, pled was attacked by many American usage commentators (perhaps because it was not in good British use). Though still sometimes criticized, it is fully respectable today and both pled (or plead) and pleaded are in good use in the U.S. In legal use (such as “pleaded guilty,” “pled guilty”), both forms are standard, though pleaded is used with greater frequency. In nonlegal use (such as “pleaded for help”), pleaded appears more commonly, though pled is also considered standard.

Well, it's a stupid word.
Many legal words are. I love things like "last will and testament" and "accord and satisfaction" because they are redundancies. It goes back to the Norman conquest in 1066. The Norman and Saxon legal systems were combined, but lawyers had to use the terms the locals understood. Latin and French-derived terms are abundant in the law.
 
Tragedy (the classical play form) broadened with time. From its classical roots and the predestined act of antiquity, then the unavoidable act , to a character flaw and choice. Finally in the 2oth century and the beginning of modern playrighting, the protagonist no longer needed to be a 'great person', a king, a war hero etc. Now a salesman will do or a woman addicted to morphine.
Yah, so Mrs. SW tells me. But there are many words that convey sadness; tragedy was unique (TMK). With tragedy swept into the morass of merely sad, How is one to communicate the cosmic wretchedness - the catharsis & pity among the audience - that tragedy used to indicate & provoke?

I'm with George Orwell - especially with regards to political language:

"Politics and the English Language" (1946) is an essay by George Orwell that criticised the "ugly and inaccurate" written English of his time and examined the connection between political orthodoxies and the debasement of language.

"The essay focused on political language, which, according to Orwell, "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". Orwell believed that the language used was necessarily vague or meaningless because it was intended to hide the truth rather than express it. This unclear prose was a "contagion" which had spread to those who did not intend to hide the truth, and it concealed a writer's thoughts from himself and others.[1] Orwell encourages concreteness and clarity instead of vagueness, and individuality over political conformity."

(My emphasis - from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_the_English_Language)
 
Yeah, "decimated to the last man" has me grating my teeth.

Even if you take out a tenth of whatever is left with each step, you'll never eliminate "last".
A form of Zeno's Archilles Paradox?
 
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