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In a post-Godard world, to imagine Paris is to imagine glittering lights by nights on the Champs-Élysées; members of the intelligentsia debating politics at Café de Flore; and chic, slender women, the picture of sophistication and insouciance, wearing the world's most elegant labels.
But if you ask Karl Lagerfeld, the German-born creative director of the quintessential Parisian brand Chanel, this is all a myth -- and has been for a long time.
He's seen drastic changes since the times when Paris "looked like an old French movie."
"It was another world. There was no feeling of danger, and not even a boy of 16 years old can walk in the street," he explains. "Things are changing, but I have the feeling I lived in a world that no longer exists."
Karl Lagerfeld: How Paris has lost its glamor - CNN.com
In a post-Godard world, to imagine Paris is to imagine glittering lights by nights on the Champs-Élysées; members of the intelligentsia debating politics at Café de Flore; and chic, slender women, the picture of sophistication and insouciance, wearing the world's most elegant labels.
But if you ask Karl Lagerfeld, the German-born creative director of the quintessential Parisian brand Chanel, this is all a myth -- and has been for a long time.
He's seen drastic changes since the times when Paris "looked like an old French movie."
"It was another world. There was no feeling of danger, and not even a boy of 16 years old can walk in the street," he explains. "Things are changing, but I have the feeling I lived in a world that no longer exists."
Karl Lagerfeld: How Paris has lost its glamor - CNN.com
The guy is 82 for **** sake.. he is an old guy complaining about changes from when he was a kid.. oh big shocker. All old people complain about this crap.
Say what you will of him, anyone having uttered the profound wisdom that people that wear jogging pants show to have lost control of their lives, will have my respect forever.:mrgreen:The guy is 82 for **** sake.. he is an old guy complaining about changes from when he was a kid.. oh big shocker. All old people complain about this crap.
But it may be reasonably assumed that the Germans wouldn't have occupied it, had you stayed.KL has a point. Paris has been on a downward path ever since I left in June 1940. Not that I'm saying that my departure was the only reason ....
Heck, if he thinks it's dangerous now, I remember how it was around 230 years ago. I didn't dare go out ever.:lol:Yeah, what moronic thing for a 82 year old man to say.
Like looking back and wondering why he could enjoy a nice walk along the streets of Paris not so many years ago, but not anymore?
Heck, if he thinks it's dangerous now, I remember how it was around 230 years ago. I didn't dare go out ever.:lol:
Is he right though? I visited Paris in the early 1990s and there were suburbs we were advised to avoid. I suspect that’s still the case today and was in the 1950s. There is an impression that places like Paris are more dangerous today than they were in the past but that doesn’t automatically mean those impressions are accurate.Like looking back and wondering why he could enjoy a nice walk along the streets of Paris not so many years ago, but not anymore
The guy is 82 for **** sake.. he is an old guy complaining about changes from when he was a kid.. oh big shocker. All old people complain about this crap.
Is he right though? I visited Paris in the early 1990s and there were suburbs we were advised to avoid. I suspect that’s still the case today and was in the 1950s. There is an impression that places like Paris are more dangerous today than they were in the past but that doesn’t automatically mean those impressions are accurate.
.In 1971, the rape rate stood at 2.0 per 100,000 people. In 1995, it was 12.5. In 2009, it stood at 16.2. Some of the increase is likely due to better reporting. According to a 2012 report, about 75,000 rapes take place each year.
According to a 2014 article, about 5,000 to 7,000 of the rapes are gang rapes
In a post-Godard world, to imagine Paris is to imagine glittering lights by nights on the Champs-Élysées; members of the intelligentsia debating politics at Café de Flore; and chic, slender women, the picture of sophistication and insouciance, wearing the world's most elegant labels.
But if you ask Karl Lagerfeld, the German-born creative director of the quintessential Parisian brand Chanel, this is all a myth -- and has been for a long time ~
Is he right though? I visited Paris in the early 1990s and there were suburbs we were advised to avoid. I suspect that’s still the case today and was in the 1950s. There is an impression that places like Paris are more dangerous today than they were in the past but that doesn’t automatically mean those impressions are accurate.
”Better reporting”, especially in relation to rape, is very relevant. How many of the rape convictions today be prosecuted or even recognised as a crime in the 1970s? Raw rape statistics (conviction statistics at that) alone doesn’t strike me as a particularly good measure of the overall “quality” of a society, especially in the context being talked about here (for all recent media coverage, the majority of rapes happen in private places between people who already know each other).https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_France
"Better reporting" lol. That's a nice way of putting it.
If the point is, as suggested, that Paris (and elsewhere) of the 1950s was a sea of perfection while today it’s complete crime-infested anarchy, he very much doesn’t have a point. There have been an imaginably vast swathe of changes over the past few decades, good, bad and indifferent. I can see how someone who has lived through them all could find in overwhelming but to look through rose-tinted spectacles at out “perfect” past and through the corrupted lens of modern media as the “nightmare” of today is simply wrong.But, I believe the man has a legitimate point. It's not just Paris either, as there are many cities around the world in the same predicament.
Say what you will of him, anyone having uttered the profound wisdom that people that wear jogging pants show to have lost control of their lives, will have my respect forever.:mrgreen:
Yeah, what moronic thing for a 82 year old man to say.
Like looking back and wondering why he could enjoy a nice walk along the streets of Paris not so many years ago, but not anymore?
In a post-Godard world, to imagine Paris is to imagine glittering lights by nights on the Champs-Élysées; members of the intelligentsia debating politics at Café de Flore; and chic, slender women, the picture of sophistication and insouciance, wearing the world's most elegant labels.
But if you ask Karl Lagerfeld, the German-born creative director of the quintessential Parisian brand Chanel, this is all a myth -- and has been for a long time.
He's seen drastic changes since the times when Paris "looked like an old French movie."
"It was another world. There was no feeling of danger, and not even a boy of 16 years old can walk in the street," he explains. "Things are changing, but I have the feeling I lived in a world that no longer exists."
Karl Lagerfeld: How Paris has lost its glamor - CNN.com
Well could be because he now is half blind, cant walk well and is not allowed to gawk at the hot men around him without being called a pervert. Or it could be because he does not like people of colour.. who knows with people at that age.
Yeah...that must be it
Well could be because he now is half blind, cant walk well and is not allowed to gawk at the hot men around him without being called a pervert. Or it could be because he does not like people of colour.. who knows with people at that age.
”Better reporting”, especially in relation to rape, is very relevant. How many of the rape convictions today be prosecuted or even recognised as a crime in the 1970s? Raw rape statistics (conviction statistics at that) alone doesn’t strike me as a particularly good measure of the overall “quality” of a society, especially in the context being talked about here (for all recent media coverage, the majority of rapes happen in private places between people who already know each other).
If the point is, as suggested, that Paris (and elsewhere) of the 1950s was a sea of perfection while today it’s complete crime-infested anarchy, he very much doesn’t have a point. There have been an imaginably vast swathe of changes over the past few decades, good, bad and indifferent. I can see how someone who has lived through them all could find in overwhelming but to look through rose-tinted spectacles at out “perfect” past and through the corrupted lens of modern media as the “nightmare” of today is simply wrong.
The guy is 82 for **** sake.. he is an old guy complaining about changes from when he was a kid.. oh big shocker. All old people complain about this crap.
Is he right though? I visited Paris in the early 1990s and there were suburbs we were advised to avoid. I suspect that’s still the case today and was in the 1950s. There is an impression that places like Paris are more dangerous today than they were in the past but that doesn’t automatically mean those impressions are accurate.
Nobody is saying the 50's were perfect, there were plenty of problems back then. But, people are a hell of a lot less respectful overall these days.
It's always the same thing with you Pete, race, xenophobia, and bigotry....isn't it?
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