Kyle Rittenhouse, convicted by the media,

[JohnnyDollar]

The two cases have nothing to do with each other. Kyle Rittenhouse deliberately placed himself in a dangerous, violent situation, while openly carrying a firearm. He deserves to go to jail just for being a colossal idiot.

The rioters are what made the damn situation violent. WTF is wrong with you people. You people keep saying he shouldn't have went there. Went where? Where violent people were making things more violent? Get that through your thick head. Those thugs wasn't there to protest and riot against a 17yr old with an AR. They were there causing destructions before Kyle even got there.
For the life of me, I don't understand how the left can dismiss all the violence the rioters were creating. If you people are so much against violence and gun crime, why in the **** aren't you against those that were there causing all the violence. Especially those like Grosskreuts who was illegally armed.

I get it. You have to overlook any common sense approach to what happened in Kenosha, because you've got your marching orders. It's like you people are in the military and following orders to bomb a country that poses no threat to our national security. But you have your orders. So you overlook any common sense. Over look any real evidence. You just do as your told.

What's even more pathetic, is that 99.9999% of the violent thugs who were rioting in Kenosha, Portland and other place, didn't even know Blake. And you lefties here support all the vandalism, rioting and looting of violent thugs. For what? Because your side said so? That's just retarded.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

I have put a lot of thought and research into why America is so divided today and it is due primarily to just two TV stations called CNN and MSNBC and two newspapers called the NY Times and WaPo. If you look back through history of evil things that were done to humanity, it doesn't take thousands of people. It takes only a handful. We have more than a handful with the entities I mentioned, dressed in expensive suits and dresses and making millions off the hate and mayhem they instigate. Charlie Chester, Director at CNN said it for them when he boasted that FEAR SELLS and they (CNN) got Trump out of office and they intentionally inflated the Covid numbers. He wasn't fired and never apologized and not a ONE news station said a word about what he said, thereby tacitly agreeing with him that the job of "NEWS" entities is now to indoctrinate humanity into hate, fear, and violence so that their wallets are padded. This is pure evil and there are many evil people at those entities....Don Lemon, Cuomo, Tapper, Holt, Angel Canmmarato, Breanna Taylor and scores of others. I would even include Chris Wallace of Fox and more so, because he is a wolf in sheep clothing and intended to destroy Trump as a moderator and adores Psaki. He pretends he is fair and balanced and he is a staunch Democrat

A few years ago, a friend of mine sent me a video of some guy I'd never heard of, talking about things I didn't care about. It was over an hour long. Way longer than my attention span could muster. I tried watching it, and got about 20 minutes into it. But that was about all I could take. It seemed so far fetched and conspiratorial, that I honestly thought my friend had gone off the deep end.
The other day, someone on another forum posted the same video. And after the last few years, of watching MSNBC & CNN spew their propaganda, the video made perfect sense.
There's a bunch of news outlets in this country, that's own by a few. I don't necessarily believe that it's "communist" owned. Maybe the owners and CEO's aren't actually communist, but are taking the same route as communist. Honestly, maybe it's just a damn game to those billionaires to see just how much they can disrupt. Maybe it's one of those $1 bets the CEO's have amongst themselves. And that they have so much money, that nothing can ever hurt them. If they destroy America, they'll just move to one of their other homes in another country.

Honestly, I don't think many on the left even know they're following some communist rulebook.

Anyways, here's the video.

 

[H B Lowrey]

Wrong. It was simply a just verdict based on an honest evaluation of the available evidence. Unlike the brain dead jurors in the OJ trial who were either too ignorant and/or too racist to come to a just verdict, the OJ jurors came to a verdict and believed the lies of Johnny Cochrane who played the race card from the bottom of the deck. The duped jurors went with "social justice", which is the opposite or real justice. By contrast, the KR trial jurors came to the only logical verdict given the evidence that showed KR only shot at people in self defense. When people are clearly threatening you with great bodily harm you have the right in America to defend your self. So the KR trial jurors came to the right decision for all Americans who still believe in truth, justice, and the rule of law.

Again the opposite of what you claim is reality. Perhaps you are too Woke to grasp that reality?

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, no. It was unwoke just us. And the entire world bore witness yet again.

 

[H B Lowrey]

The rioters are what made the damn situation violent. WTF is wrong with you people. You people keep saying he shouldn't have went there. Went where? Where violent people were making things more violent? Get that through your thick head. Those thugs wasn't there to protest and riot against a 17yr old with an AR. They were there causing destructions before Kyle even got there.
For the life of me, I don't understand how the left can dismiss all the violence the rioters were creating. If you people are so much against violence and gun crime, why in the **** aren't you against those that were there causing all the violence. Especially those like Grosskreuts who was illegally armed.

I get it. You have to overlook any common sense approach to what happened in Kenosha, because you've got your marching orders. It's like you people are in the military and following orders to bomb a country that poses no threat to our national security. But you have your orders. So you overlook any common sense. Over look any real evidence. You just do as your told.

What's even more pathetic, is that 99.9999% of the violent thugs who were rioting in Kenosha, Portland and other place, didn't even know Blake. And you lefties here support all the vandalism, rioting and looting of violent thugs. For what? Because your side said so? That's just retarded.

So basically, differences in marching orders then? That's all I got outta that.

 

[JohnnyDollar]

So basically, differences in marching orders then? That's all I got outta that.

That's all you got, huh? What a shame.

Maybe you'll do better next time. I'll type slower.

 

[H B Lowrey]

That's all you got, huh? What a shame.

Maybe you'll do better next time. I'll type slower.

No, that's all you said. Your assessment is that the other poster got different marching orders than you got. You might want to read it slower. Or just keep blowing. Whatever.

 

[PoS]

Found this on the net and thought it was appropriate:

 

[neil]

Found this on the net and thought it was appropriate:

I did an online search to see if George Zimmerman is suing for defamation & sure enough he is:

George Zimmerman suing Warren and Buttigieg over alleged defamation in Trayvon Martin case

George Zimmerman, the man who killed Trayvon Martin after a confrontation with the unarmed teen in 2012, is reportedly suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and former South Bend, Ind. Mayor P…

thehill.com

 

[RealityChecker]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, no. It was unwoke just us. And the entire world bore witness yet again.

The OJ trial was what social justice from jurors too Woke and/or ignorant to understand the evidence. They were duped by Johnny Cochrane's fake narrative about how the cops framed OJ for killing his wife and a friend (Goldman). Most of the Brentwood cops were likely OJ fans and would never have framed him for a crime the evidence did not actually commit. Do you think some guy just happened to be wearing the same size and very expensive Bruno Magli shoes as OJ when he committed that double murder? What possible motive could they have had?

By contrast, the jurors in the Kyle Rittenhouse (KR) trial simply followed the law and the evidence that clearly showed killed those two people and shot another in self-defense. All 4 people KR shot (or shot at) were seen on video attacking him and almost certainly about to do great bodily harm or kill KR. Try to deal with reality.

 

[RealityChecker]

I did an online search to see if George Zimmerman is suing for defamation & sure enough he is:

George Zimmerman suing Warren and Buttigieg over alleged defamation in Trayvon Martin case

George Zimmerman, the man who killed Trayvon Martin after a confrontation with the unarmed teen in 2012, is reportedly suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and former South Bend, Ind. Mayor P…

thehill.com

So what? The evidence clearly showed Trayvon Martin (TM) was violently assaulting George Zimmerman (GZ) at the time GZ shot TM. GZ's mother was from South America and his father was Jewish, so rather doubtful GZ was a white nationalist. And a jury long ago determined GZ shot TM in self-defense. So powerful politician ought not be slandering GZ IMO. Do you disagree?

Perhaps OJ stabbed his wife and Ron Goldman multiple times in self-defense but I rather doubt it.

 

[neil]

So what? The evidence clearly showed Trayvon Martin (TM) was violently assaulting George Zimmerman (GZ) at the time GZ shot TM. GZ's mother was from South America and his father was Jewish, so rather doubtful GZ was a white nationalist. And a jury long ago determined GZ shot TM in self-defense. So powerful politician ought not be slandering GZ IMO. Do you disagree?

Perhaps OJ stabbed his wife and Ron Goldman multiple times in self-defense but I rather doubt it.

I'm for anyone who had their character defamed suing those who are responsible. If Warren & Buttigieg did defame Zimmerman's character, they ought to compensate him for damages, admit they defamed him, and apologize; if Warren & Buttigieg didn't do anything to defame Zimmerman's character, then they owe him nothing.

 

[RealityChecker]

I'm for anyone who had their character defamed suing those who are responsible. If Warren & Buttigieg did defame Zimmerman's character, they ought to compensate him for damages, admit they defamed him, and apologize; if Warren & Buttigieg didn't do anything to defame Zimmerman's character, then they owe him nothing.

Agreed. Of course, a FL judged threw out the GZ's lawsuits against Warren & Buttigieg although both of them posted tweets implying that TM was murdered because he was black. But then the political elites tend to rig the courts in ways that protect the rich and politically connected from slandering the America's middle class: More here:

George Zimmerman v. Pete Buttigieg & Elizabeth Warren

From today's decision, by Judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell (M.D. Fla.): {The following statement of facts is derived from Plaintiff's Complaint,…

reason.com

 

[Paradoxical]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, no. It was unwoke just us. And the entire world bore witness yet again.

To what? A guy defending himself from being killed by white leftists?

What really chafes the left is that the guys who were chasing him with the intent to kill him were left-wingers. Prolly BLM and Antifa members. Just admit it and get over it.

 

[TobyOne]

I see alot of people saying Rittenhouse should be suing a bunch of people, the media, Biden etc ... the many who slandered him. It seemed to work for that Covington kid but I don't know if this is apples/apples. Does anyone know the legal context of this? Not partisan nonsense, but actual informed legal opinion?

 

[TobyOne]

Being an idiot isn’t illegal or the leftist in this forum would all be imprisoned.

Ouch.

 

[neil]

I see alot of people saying Rittenhouse should be suing a bunch of people, the media, Biden etc ... the many who slandered him. It seemed to work for that Covington kid but I don't know if this is apples/apples. Does anyone know the legal context of this? Not partisan nonsense, but actual informed legal opinion?

What do you mean by apples/apples? I know you're referring to the analogical differences between apples and oranges. What are the apples/oranges differences between Rittenhouse & Covington kid? The type of defamation of character issue seems to be the same. Even if they're not, I think Rittenhouse has way more of a case than Covington kid.

 

[H B Lowrey]

To what? A guy defending himself from being killed by white leftists?

What really chafes the left is that the guys who were chasing him with the intent to kill him were left-wingers. Prolly BLM and Antifa members. Just admit it and get over it.

A school boy equipped with an AR supporting and "defending" the power of the state to murder certain segments of its own population in the streets via a militarized white supremacist infiltrated police force.

 

[H B Lowrey]

The OJ trial was what social justice from jurors too Woke and/or ignorant to understand the evidence. They were duped by Johnny Cochrane's fake narrative about how the cops framed OJ for killing his wife and a friend (Goldman). Most of the Brentwood cops were likely OJ fans and would never have framed him for a crime the evidence did not actually commit. Do you think some guy just happened to be wearing the same size and very expensive Bruno Magli shoes as OJ when he committed that double murder? What possible motive could they have had?

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By contrast, the jurors in the Kyle Rittenhouse (KR) trial simply followed the law and the evidence that clearly showed killed those two people and shot another in self-defense. All 4 people KR shot (or shot at) were seen on video attacking him and almost certainly about to do great bodily harm or kill KR. Try to deal with reality.

You all sound alike with semantics and sodomization of the use of language. Emotionally ratcheted up and incoherent. You believe. It becomes permanently so. The kid's a killer, and a hero to you for it.

 

[RealityChecker]

You all sound alike with semantics and sodomization of the use of language. Emotionally ratcheted up and incoherent. You believe. It becomes permanently so. The kid's a killer, and a hero to you for it.

While no doubt KR killed 3 thugs who were threatening to kill him and/or appeared about to kill him or do him great bodily harm. So KR exercised his right to defend himself from thugs and rioters. You seem unable to grasp reality, which is rather sad. FYI - It is the "Woke" Marxist-inspired duped and/or propagandizing progressive left zealots arguing semantics. Not sure how one sodomizes language but you are the one who seems incoherent and emotionally ratcheted up to me. Perhaps use your intellect more and do not let your emotions blind you to facts and logic that refute your beliefs.

 

[H B Lowrey]

While no doubt KR killed 3 thugs who were threatening to kill him and/or appeared about to kill him or do him great bodily harm. So KR exercised his right to defend himself from thugs and rioters. You seem unable to grasp reality, which is rather sad. FYI - It is the "Woke" Marxist-inspired duped and/or propagandizing progressive left zealots arguing semantics. Not sure how one sodomizes language but you are the one who seems incoherent and emotionally ratcheted up to me. Perhaps use your intellect more and do not let your emotions blind you to facts and logic that refute your beliefs.

Yup, that's how it works. If the murdered can be portrayed as "deserving" it, murder is justified. Kyle's is a celebrated killer who went to support the power of the state via policing to gun down certain members of the citizenry extralegally. A counter "good" rioter to the "bad" rioters. Fweedumb. It's all about the spin and the media gin up. "Woke" versus "unwoke". And there will be more to come. Watch.

 

[calamity]

Rittenhouse has been lionized by the media. Thread fail.

 

[H B Lowrey]

Rittenhouse has been lionized by the media. Thread fail.

He done done them Proud Boys proud.

 

[RealityChecker]

Yup, that's how it works. If the murdered can be portrayed as "deserving" it, murder is justified.

Well that is a weak argument. Did OJ's wife and Ron Goldman portrayed as deserving to be sliced up by OJ's lawyers? Johnny Cochrane actually portrayed to cops as racist.

Kyle's is a celebrated killer who went to support the power of the state via policing to gun down certain members of the citizenry extralegally.

Well KR had a right to defend himself but he would not have been in that position if the "power of the state" was not being sidelined by the Democrat politicians who actually turned to power of the sate on KR and prosecuted unjustly for murder when it was clear all along that he killed and wounded only men who clearly meant to harm if not kill him.

Your claim that KR gunned down those assaulting him extralegally indicates you do not understand the definition of extralegally. What KR did was perfectly legal.

A counter "good" rioter to the "bad" rioters. Fweedumb. It's all ab out the spin and the media gin up. "Woke" versus "unwoke". And there will be more to come. Watch.

The woke folks of the progressive left struggling understanding the true meaning of words, understanding the law, and seek to silence those who expose their cult-like ideology as intellectually vacant. I do not mean to be insulting but sometimes I get the feeling you might be a tad too "woke".

 

[H B Lowrey]

Well that is a weak argument. Did OJ's wife and Ron Goldman portrayed as deserving to be sliced up by OJ's lawyers? Johnny Cochrane actually portrayed to cops as racist.


Well KR had a right to defend himself but he would not have been in that position if the "power of the state" was not being sidelined by the Democrat politicians who actually turned to power of the sate on KR and prosecuted unjustly for murder when it was clear all along that he killed and wounded only men who clearly meant to harm if not kill him.

Your claim that KR gunned down those assaulting him extralegally indicates you do not understand the definition of extralegally. What KR did was perfectly legal.


The woke folks of the progressive left struggling understanding the true meaning of words, understanding the law, and seek to silence those who expose their cult-like ideology as intellectually vacant. I do not mean to be insulting but sometimes I get the feeling you might be a tad too "woke".

Your avalanche of assumptions notwithstanding, have you perused the numerous reports of law enforcement infiltration by white supremacists/nationalists published by the FBI and Donnie Trump's own DHS head Chad Wolf?

So, them Democrats made Kyle go kill people. Well, can't you just vote Republican and solve your "issue"? So that the state can murder whomever it wants extralegally via its militarized policing?

You're not comprehending the conversation. I said Kyle showed up with an AR to support the ability of the police to murder certain people in this society extralegally. He showed up armed to "clean up" those protesting against police violence. Need I remind you we have made slavery and genocide appear "legal" in this society?

I'll leave you "unwoke" folks and your "woke" folks to your little civil war. You all sound alike to me. Suffice it to say, there will be more violence. Nothing is more all-american.

 

[RealityChecker]

Your avalanche of assumptions notwithstanding, have you perused the numerous reports of law enforcement infiltration by white supremacists/nationalists published by the FBI and Donnie Trump's own DHS head Chad Wolf?

I am sure there are a few bad apples in police departments but most cops follow the law no matter who they voted for for POTUS.

So, them Democrats made Kyle go kill people.

That is absurd. But by telling the cops to stand down and not arrest and jail rioters they certainly emboldened them and that certainly forced the general public to protect their own businesses and lives from rioters.

Well, can't you just vote Republican and solve your "issue"? So that the state can murder whomever it wants extralegally via its militarized policing?

I have certainly not advocated that. Are you attempting to create a lame red herring fallacy?

You're not comprehending the conversation. I said Kyle showed up with an AR to support the ability of the police to murder certain people in this society extralegally.

That is irrational mumbo jumbo. KR was there to help protect his community from rioters because the Democrat governor and mayor failed to do their jobs. The mayor no doubt ordered the cops to not stop the rioters from looting and damaging local businesses.

He showed up armed to "clean up" those protesting against police violence. Need I remind you we have made slavery and genocide appear "legal" in this society?

Wrong. He was there to protect his community from rioters and not from peaceful protestor.

I'll leave you "unwoke" folks and your "woke" folks to your little civil war. You all sound alike to me. Suffice it to say, there will be more violence. Nothing is more all-american.

Nothing coherent there, but it sounds like you are starting to realize I have a pretty good BS filter and so you may want to avoid being embarrassed by being exposed as being a bit out of sync with reality.