Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, charged with murder after two killed during Wisconsin protests (1 Viewer)

[Taylor]

because in an autopsy if it is the same bullet causing the injury, it would be indicated.

Oh I see. If it were three bullets it would be indicated, but if the number of bullets isn't mentioned at all we naturally assume five. :lamo

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Qustion: What constitutes an "assault" rifle?

In fact, an "assault rifle" is

a selective-fire (meaning that it cam be adjusted to fire in either a semi-automatic, burst, and/or fully automatic firing mode) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge (a cartridge that is shorter than typical full-power battle rifle cartridges (such as the .303 British, 7.62×54mmR, 7.92×57mm Mauser, 7.7×58mm Arisaka, .30-06 Springfield or 7.62×51mm NATO), but still has greater length than pistol/personal defense weapon cartridges) and a detachable magazine.
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However, as used by the "LESS Guns Nuts" it is

anything that looks scary because it doesn't look like something that Davy Crockett or Daniel Boone used and works without the deranged shooter having to do anything more than pull the trigger so that they can slaughter thousands (well, OK, "dozens") of people at one time.
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Mind you, as used by the "MORE Guns Nuts" it is

a symbol of America's freedoms and something to be proudly carried at all times so that you can show your support for the American Constitution which enshrines **E*V*E*R*Y*O*N*E*'*S** (well, OK, the people I agree should have guns) God Given Second Amendment Right that is threatened by the Godless Commies and Queers (to say nothing of those "'N'words").
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Does that help?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

He has also posed in social media with his gun, and was telling lies about his credentials as a medic. And the fact of him being overweight at his very young age create a picture of a person who feels very weak physically when he does not carry his rifle.

I haven't met the young man(?) personally, but from what I know of the situation I'd be sorely tempted to put him into the "stupid, arrogant, pathetic, loser" category. Hell, I'm even tempted to put him into the "ineffectual, stupid, arrogant, pathetic, loser" category.

On the other hand, his actions have most certainly improved his chances of getting laid - so maybe he wasn't so "ineffectual" at that.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The police were refusing to do their jobs? All the hundreds of them that were there? You are entitled under 2nd Amendment to defend yourself, or your property.

If you actually knew what the actual Second Amendment actually says

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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you would know that is says no such thing (unless you actually believe that either you or your property constitute a "free State").

But you are not entitled to appoint yourself the legal protectorate of others and their property. You cannot deem yourself as being a law enforcement entity. There is no legal basis under the law and the constitution for it.

That part you got correct.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Really, you mind citing where he's been charged and found guilty?

Yet another believer that the rule regarding "presumption of innocence" (as applied to someone who might be a member/supporter of "Their Guys") is that

"At the very first moment that it is first rumoured that there might conceivably be something that resembles an accusation of something that could possibly be considered to be faintly similar to an act that theoretically amounts to a breach of the law, then that person is **G*U*I*L*T*Y** and any court finding otherwise is a perversion of justice."
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this, of course, is in contrast to the rule regarding "presumption of innocence" (as applied to someone who might be a member/supporter of "Our Guys") which is

"Until such time as the person has been indicted, has been tried, has been convicted, has exhausted all appeals (regardless of how frivolous) without overturning the unjustly and illegally obtained verdict AND it has been 100% conclusively proved that there is a 0.00% chance that that unjust and illegally obtained verdict was NOT the result of a huge, vast, enormous, hidden, secret, covert, conspiracy to destroy America by making same-sex/inter-racial marriages mandatory, forcing women to have abortions, compelling fluoridation and vaccination, imposing Sherry Law, and making all the Cheerleaders wear Burke Hats, then the person is ***I*N*N*O*C*E*N*T***, which means that the so-called "alleged" act never happened, which thus means that no investigation should ever be done because it is an abuse of process AND a VIOLATION OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS to investigate an ***I*N*N*O*C*E*N*T*** person.".
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heard from?

 

[NWRatCon]

When I was a law enforcement cadet (Yes me), there were two kinds of kids that participated. Those like me who were considering a law enforcement career, and those that liked the feeling of power that putting on a uniform and riding around in police cars provided. The latter didn't last long, but they did have adherents within the department.

Rittenhouse appears to be one of the latter - a wannabe who didn't have a place "to belong". He may have had a genuine interest in helping others (he was a life guard), but his fantasy life was apparently stronger. He liked strutting around with firearms, exaggerated his qualifications, and acting "tough' (like punching girls and pointing guns at people). What he didn't understand is the real world consequences of that behavior. This is going to be a hard lesson.

 

[Luce]

When I was a law enforcement cadet (Yes me), there were two kinds of kids that participated. Those like me who were considering a law enforcement career, and those that liked the feeling of power that putting on a uniform and riding around in police cars provided. The latter didn't last long, but they did have adherents within the department.

Rittenhouse appears to be one of the latter - a wannabe who didn't have a place "to belong". He may have had a genuine interest in helping others (he was a life guard), but his fantasy life was apparently stronger. He liked strutting around with firearms, exaggerated his qualifications, and acting "tough' (like punching girls and pointing guns at people). What he didn't understand is the real world consequences of that behavior. This is going to be a hard lesson.

We call those "holster sniffers." It never ends well.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

really? we know he committed a felony.

Possibly you missed this post

Really, you mind citing where he's been charged and found guilty?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

we know the man Kyle R shot in the arm was a felon with a handgun. that is a felony offense federally under 18 USC 922. I do not believe there is sufficient evidence to find KR guilty of murder or any other felony

Again, did you miss

Really, you mind citing where he's been charged and found guilty?

 

[SkyFox76]

Possibly you missed this post

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He's also missing the point that the guy isn't a felon and has had a CCW permit for years according to his recent interviews.

Let's just say for laughs he was a felon with a gun. Was he impossible to find? Impossible to know his name? Police had no clue how to check his records and then arrest him?

So now two weeks later he's on the news talking about that night and I guess police are still clueless that TD knows the guys a felon. :lamo

 

[TurtleDude]

who are you to determine if police are or aren't doing their job?

as a taxpayer with 30 years experience as a local and federal prosecutor. Far better credentials than most others

 

[Luce]

as a taxpayer with 30 years experience as a local and federal prosecutor.

Really?

 

[TurtleDude]

Really?

yeah,,,and reviewing police use of force cases was something I did from 85-2013. First five years because my firm was counsel for the insurance carrier for two major LE agencies and I also was a municipal prosecutor and then in the DOJ for 24 years

 

[TurtleDude]

He's also missing the point that the guy isn't a felon and has had a CCW permit for years according to his recent interviews.

Let's just say for laughs he was a felon with a gun. Was he impossible to find? Impossible to know his name? Police had no clue how to check his records and then arrest him?

So now two weeks later he's on the news talking about that night and I guess police are still clueless that TD knows the guys a felon. :lamo

there were numerous reports that everyone he shot had a record.

the shooting was justified whether or not the guy "disarmed" was actually a mope

 

[ClaraD]

Really?

he is full of it. If he had been a prosecutor, he would know that he needs to read all of the evidence...all of it, look at crime scene diagrams and witness statements before being so irresponsible, it could get him disbarred....

 

[ClaraD]

there were numerous reports that everyone he shot had a record.

the shooting was justified whether or not the guy "disarmed" was actually a mope

So, if I just randomly look up records of people that have criminal records and go and shoot them in the street, you would consider it self defense?

 

[Luce]

he is full of it. If he had been a prosecutor, he would know that he needs to read all of the evidence...all of it, look at crime scene diagrams and witness statements before being so irresponsible, it could get him disbarred....

I'm aware.

I was just wanting to see how far he'd try to take this.

 

[ClaraD]

Really?

yeah, no, I don't believe him. He lacks the ability to even use legalease..

 

[Luce]

there were numerous reports that everyone he shot had a record.

So what?

 

[Luce]

So, if I just randomly look up records of people that have criminal records and go and shoot them in the street, you would consider it self defense?

This is the right's new thing. They all think they're the Punisher or whatever dude's name is.

Then they can decide that anyone on "the other side" that gets killed deserved it, and no investigation should be necessary.

 

[Threegoofs]

there were numerous reports that everyone he shot had a record.

the shooting was justified whether or not the guy "disarmed" was actually a mope

numerous reports on wackadoodle gun media...

He’s a college student training as a paramedic with a CCW license and no felony.

 

[ClaraD]

numerous reports on wackadoodle gun media...

He’s a college student training as a paramedic with a CCW license and no felony.

Turtle doesn't need evidence...he only goes by what is convenient for him...to hell with evidence....never mind the guy actually did possess a CCW and did not have a felony and was actually training as a Paramedic.

 

[NWRatCon]

Again, did you miss

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I appreciate your politesse in calling it a "miss," rather than the brazen (and repetitious) lie it actually is. I put friend turtledude in the same category as Rittenhouse - someone who habitually exaggerates his prowess to impress, but who can't back up his boasts with substance. He's a keyboard wannabe.

 

[pamak]

When I was a law enforcement cadet (Yes me), there were two kinds of kids that participated. Those like me who were considering a law enforcement career, and those that liked the feeling of power that putting on a uniform and riding around in police cars provided. The latter didn't last long, but they did have adherents within the department.

Rittenhouse appears to be one of the latter - a wannabe who didn't have a place "to belong". He may have had a genuine interest in helping others (he was a life guard), but his fantasy life was apparently stronger. He liked strutting around with firearms, exaggerated his qualifications, and acting "tough' (like punching girls and pointing guns at people). What he didn't understand is the real world consequences of that behavior. This is going to be a hard lesson.

Yep, that is what I get also (do not know about the punching part).

Now, I can accept that my opinion is not unbiased because I am a US permanent resident from Europe where I grew up without being exposed to the 2A concept and to the gun culture (of course, even in Europe people can get guns for hunting, etc). But on the other hand, by law, I did have the obligation as a male citizen to serve for 18 months in the army and did take the extra step of joining an all-volunteer unit (which I did not have to do) and I did use weapons like the FN FAL (standard and para version). So, I do not feel that I am hostile to every military affiliated guys because of some personal or political belief.

 

[SkyFox76]

So what?

Anybody with an ounce of common sense should have been able to conclude that Grosskreutz not being arrested within 48 hrs was because the felon claims were bull****. Not to mention TD being given that info as far back as last week, where he could have easily looked to read it and realized Grosskreutz wasn't a felon.

Unlike Rittenhouse Gaige was in legal possession of his weapon. One he actually owned, not loaned from a buddy. He actually worked as a paramedic before returning to school, unlike Rittenhouse who lied that he's 18, and an certified EMT. Maybe since Rittenhouse is a high school drop out he can use his jail time to get a GED.