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Korea: Should USA intervene?

Nordenkalt444

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Both North and South Korea want to reunite the peninsula, the North wants a feudal government while the South wants a democracy. Should USA intervene? Which side should control the other? Who do you agree with?

North: "Korea should be united as one, every citizen should uphold the sacred Korean customs and ways of living through the womb of Socialism. Korea should live peacefully with it's citizens through the philosophies of Juche and our Eternal President Kim Il-Sung".

South: "A Korean separation only causes more problems with the North blasting missiles on our islands, the citizens have many family members in the North since the Korean War. We should implement some Korean customs and tradition in our lifestyle, but people should choose however they want to live. Whether they want to be Socialist or democratic, they should live however they choose".
 

If the North was not suckling China's tit there would be no North Korea it would be just Korea. The North is a failed state already while the South is not, do the math.
 
The South Koreans are the most admirable Democracy on earth. I lived there when they were so poor they had NO paved streets and people lived in cardboard boxes. They progressed to the point where they are the most literate, most wired country.

If we really cared about Democracy instead of money and oil, we would assist the South in killing everyone in charge in the North and bring in relief to those poor, stunted, underfed victims in the North.

Won't happen of course. But allow me my fantasies.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
If the North was not suckling China's tit there would be no North Korea it would be just Korea. The North is a failed state already while the South is not, do the math.
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China is also their only ally, nearly everything in North Korea is made there or in China. So maybe it's China we should worry about.
 

North Korea is one of the worst human tragedies in history, but the South Korean government is not interested in destroying the North and they wouldnt like it if we started messing around with the DPRK like that.
 

The South Koreans are big boys and girls they can, their own business just fine.
 
West and East Germany were reunified peacefully with the collapse of the Soviet Union because Russia does not have any interest in controlling Eastern Europe anymore as its sphere of influence but North Korea is still China's satellite state and the Communist leadership in China is uneasy about the prospect of Korean reunification, which would mean a loss of the only Communist ally in the region for China and a reunified Korea would pose an ideological threat to the very existence of Communist China which is struggling to contain a pro-democracy movement within and if South Korea crosses the 38th parallel, there will be a repeat of the Korean War with a massive Chinese intervention and North and South Korea should seek to coexist as good neighbours first regardless of their ideological differences before taking the next step towards reunification.
 
Oh, you are surely correct. I did say it was a "fantasy?.



Wiseone said:
North Korea is one of the worst human tragedies in history, but the South Korean government is not interested in destroying the North and they wouldnt like it if we started messing around with the DPRK like that.
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Do you have any evidence they want to re-unite or is this just a made up question to discuss? Like it could be country A and Country B?
 
Ray410 said:
Do you have any evidence they want to re-unite or is this just a made up question to discuss? Like it could be country A and Country B?
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Just look it up, they both want to reunite with different theories on how and what type of nation it should be. Next time you ask a question, I'll tell you it was made up and not a real issue.
 
Nordenkalt444 said:
Just look it up, they both want to reunite with different theories on how and what type of nation it should be. Next time you ask a question, I'll tell you it was made up and not a real issue.
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Next time you pose another stupid hypothetical question, I'll just pretend it's real.
 
Ray410 said:
Do you have any evidence they want to re-unite or is this just a made up question to discuss? Like it could be country A and Country B?
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It's complicated.

On the one hand, the South Korean government regards itself as the rightful authority of the entire Korean nation, with North Koreans as much citizens as South Koreans. As such, when North Koreans escape and defect to South Korea, once it is determined that they are not agents of the North Korean government they are automatically given South Korean citizenship, along with all kinds of resettling assistance and training.

On the other hand, time continues to pass, the portion of the South Korean nation which remembers the Korean War continues to age, and the up-and-coming generation remembers nothing but a divided Korea. They generally tend to look at their northern ... neighbors ... as dirty, uneducated, uncivilized distant cousins. To them, the North is a huge refugee problem waiting to happen the moment the government collapses.

The South Korean educational establishment and economy are hyper-competitive, and the younger participants don't look fondly on the amount of effort and hardship that would be involved with integrating several million North Koreans.
 

I vote for North Korea, because God knows we don't have enough military dictatorships controlled by megalomaniacs in the world.
 
Nordenkalt444 said:
Communist or democratic, a unified Korea would be nice but they should work it out.
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Korea was divided without consulting the Koreans by superpower nations who didn't give a crap about the Korean people. The end result was a Korea divided along a politically expedient invisible line on a map, rather than along lines that would've more closely matched cultural divisions within the country -- and thus been more natural and more enduring.
 
This thread has been a big laugh for me, both the OP and a handful of posters.
Nice speculation, fantasy, and theories though.
 
If South Korea wants to have its economy tank from the massive influx of dirt poor people, don't let me be the one to stop them.....
 
If it comes down to a "unification" fight between north and south, and China stays out of it, then I think the US should intervene as little as possible. The US putting it's hand in might bring China in, and then it would get messy. Otherwise, I think the South would ultimately be victorious. The South's economy would be a shambles for a while, but like Germany re-uniting with East Germany, it would eventually recover.
 
Nordenkalt444 said:
Communist or democratic, a unified Korea would be nice but they should work it out.
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Why would a unified, communist North Korea be 'nice'? Is it because the existing communist North Korea is such a roaring success?
 
i'd love to see the suffering in NK end. however, we can't afford to do everything. it's China's responsibility much more than it is ours.

i do support whatever humanitarian aid we can give the people of NK. when other nations see us coming, we should be bringing food and medicine.
 
I don't think the US should intervene; after all, foreign involvement is what got Korea into the mess it is in.
 
Wiggen said:
Why would a unified, communist North Korea be 'nice'? Is it because the existing communist North Korea is such a roaring success?
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I meant that each nation should have their own policies and way of living, if that's what the Korean people want then they should have that form of government. I'm not a communist, but I wouldn't consider North Korea to be an enemy without reason (or interfere with reunification).
 

True, but since the Clinton administration they've been giving aid to a "selected few". Most people in the capital, Pyongyang, are privileged citizens with adequate food and electricity. These types of people are devout communist party members that literally live for the regime.
 
We need to continue to wrestle the Chinese out in the open to enguage with the international community. The more open they become, the harder it will be for them to legitimize their support for N.Korea. The unfortunate thing is that this may take at least another 20-40 years. In the meantime, the people of N.Korea will suffer.
 
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