Who are you that anyone "must" prove anything to you? Why not put your arrogant, pissy attitude aside and try to converse instead of looking for ways to insult?
ooohhh..... I've heard of them.... :lol:
Well, that's about the biggest bunch of Bull **** I've ever read in here....Congratulations, you win the prize.
This is a classic guilt by association fallacy. The majority of those who wave the Confederate flag are ordinary, law-abiding citizens proud of their heritage, not hateful ideologues.
I think it's that "heritage" part that is the problem. A "heritage" involving the suffering of other people is nothing to be proud of. And since those other people are co-citizens, the respectful thing to do would be not to wave the symbol of their suffering as something to be proud of. It's just common decency. Of course, if a person doesn't care about the other people, even to this day, that would be a different matter.
Is there a way for you to prove that what the veterans told your granddaddy is true? Like perhaps, some kind of documentation or historical written record by people who were actually there during the civil war and in their own words? Because without it...it makes you the revisionist.
I'm sure that the tour guide was being polite to the old gentlemen.
But.... but.... granddaddy!
She reminds me of Adam Sandler on The Waterboy, talking about what his "mama said" about the alligator and his medulla oblongata.
My first thought, too. Not exactly the wisest PR move.Number one on the list of the 250 ways to hurt your cause. :lamo
Well, I've cited plenty of evidence about how the Rebel flag was used in the 1950s and 1960s. You disregard it so I figured there must be some reason you dismiss photographs of the era available with a 2 second Google image search and substitute your own, backed by nothing.
Yeah, they kinda have a rather public persona.
Now that takes the cake as the dumbest thing I have ever seen here.
I don't think they are listening. There minds are made up just like conservative minds always are. It is sad that the men that used to flag to represent segregation and racism have ruined the symbolism they appear to revere so much. But I can see how it is truly hurtful for the African Americans that remember those days and it is for that reason that the flag should be removed from all Govt. land and the Miss. State flag needs to be changed too. Those that disagree are blaming the wrong people though.
My first thought, too. Not exactly the wisest PR move.
excellent points
there was a time when that confederate battle flag was actually a symbol of a proud confederate heritage
but that positive symbol was co-opted by the Jim Crow loyalists who turned it into a symbol of those opposed to racial equality
which is why it should never now appear on any government/government-issued property
Mainly Daughters of the Confederacy magazines, which like I said I gave away to a horse trainer friend of mine. Still they use writings and excerpts from journals all throughout the magazines. I highly doubt those soldiers were lying.
The KKK is a beacon of freedom compared to these radical progressives these days.
What I meant was if you had any "verifiable" sources. Your granddaddy and UDC magazines are not verifiable sources. Are those your only sources for knowledge about the Civil War?
:lol: :lol:
Well, granddaddy didn't say it was dumb, so I'm sure it's not true.
I don't think they are listening. There minds are made up just like conservative minds always are. It is sad that the men that used to flag to represent segregation and racism have ruined the symbolism they appear to revere so much. But I can see how it is truly hurtful for the African Americans that remember those days and it is for that reason that the flag should be removed from all Govt. land and the Miss. State flag needs to be changed too. Those that disagree are blaming the wrong people though.
His-story.
Well, that begs the question....who do I have to be?
Actually, I thought I was being nice,...
Moot said:Is there a way for you to prove that what the veterans told your granddaddy is true? Like perhaps, some kind of documentation or historical written record by people who were actually there during the civil war and in their own words?
considering she has already admitted that she belongs to UDC that is famous for revising southern history.
Since this is a debate forum and the thread is about the CF, I think I am completely within my right as a participating member of DP to ask for proof of her assertions in the course of the debate, however that may offend your sensibilities.
If you have a problem with that, then take it up with a moderator.
The South Carolina House of Representatives approved removing the Confederate battle flag from the Statehouse grounds and placing it in a museum after a contentious debate that stretched into Thursday.
Next, the bill goes to the desk of Gov. Nikki Haley, who had asked lawmakers to agree to take down the flag in the wake of the June 17 massacre of nine black parishioners at a Charleston church. The banner, whose defenders say it symbolizes their Southern heritage, could come down within days.
The governor hailed the House's action, saying it heralded "a new day in South Carolina."
South Carolina governor hails Confederate flag vote as 'a new day' - LA Times
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