Gill in this case is correct and so is Tucker
The production of oil under peak oil can be increased for a time but will cause a sharper drop off in production as the reserves are used up faster then otherwise would have been
Hubbert peak theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reserves and production rates are generally fairly interconnected, but through secondary and tert recovery methods the production rate can be increased, while draining reservers quicker. Meaning instead of a bell shaped curve for production rates, it will be skewed towards with a sharp drop off as rates will eventually decrease drastically rather then gradually
@Catawba, i think the real distinction between what you and gill are saying is that production can decrease for different reasons. if oil production goes down because an oil producing state creates a law making it more difficult to produce oil that is not due to the amount of oil on the planet.
as to the topic, peak light bulb (hehe) is a separate issue altogether, we need to consider all the implications. one that has yet to be mentioned in this 33 page thread is that there's 5mg of mercury in all the 40 watt twisty light apparatuses (they're not called 'bulbs' are they?) that are replacing the 100 watt incandescent bulbs. that's a lot of nasty stuff getting thrown in our land fills. though i soon the LEDs will replace those we all assume, but two problems with that. first LEDs still only come in a few different colors, secondly we've never had to produce the number of LEDs that we have with the incandescent lamps, i'm not sure all the resources are there for those.
In my home I have downlights which operate on these brilliant little 50W lights that produce a pleasant light orange glow, like the old ones did. I dislike pure white light, it annoys my head.
I have one light in my entire house using an old style light, absolutely the most inefficient lights I've ever owned. It's 70W. In Australia lights must be 15 Lumens/W efficient. It's worked just fine over here, we've also cut greenhouse emissions by 800,000 tonnes, and the lights are cheap as hotcakes, and are still domestically produced.
I didn't know people still use those old light bulbs. If you still use them, you are losing money in the long run (and the short term too actually). LEDs are much cheaper if you order them online and they don't burn out like traditional bulbs. You can find ultra bright LEDs in bulk for about $0.20 each in some places. I've put together some lighting circuits of my own and use them in my room and the shed outside. If you are not into electronics you can buy them at any hardware store and they screw in to any fixture. You will see the big savings on your electric bill.
Peak oil DOES NOT mean we are producing less oil than we consume, it means we used more of the Earth's oil than is left in reserves.
At least learn what you are talking about.
Peak oil is when the maximum global rate of extraction is passed. We did. How hard is that to understand?
iirc, it was a joke that some people w/o a sense of humor didn't get.Wasn't there a singer who made waves by pointing out if we all just use 1 square of toilet paper we'd save millions of acres of trees?
and the increase in prices has increased the amount of oil that it's financially viable to extract.Maybe, maybe not. Huge new oil fields are being discovered each year.
Yeah, thats a drag.I tried them had several last not even a year. I do not like the hazmat part or the mercury in them.
I think this email is an urban legend.Yeah... kiss your safe 100-watter good-bye, and say hello to the hazmat suit you'll need if you break one of the new bulbs.
Sarcasm? If not, you are not sounding like a conservative... who else is on your list to have their rights removed?
CFL's are already on the way out, as soon as LED bulbs get cheap enough to attract customers. Then we will have some serious savings on electricity usage.
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soon the LEDs will replace those we all assume, but two problems with that. first LEDs still only come in a few different colors, secondly we've never had to produce the number of LEDs that we have with the incandescent lamps, i'm not sure all the resources are there for those.
Part sarcasm, and part real. I'm tired of offshore residents coming in here telling me how America should be, and what my rights are or should be.
Light bulbs with higher wattage permits what we used to call "reading". This reading thing was at one time utilized to educate. Thank God, I mean thank someting thosec days are long gone. "Anearica, Anearica how great you are today, more rules to learn, more books to burn from rule to shining rule"! (sing along)
Light bulbs with higher wattage permits what we used to call "reading". This reading thing was at one time utilized to educate. Thank God, I mean thank someting thosec days are long gone. "Anearica, Anearica how great you are today, more rules to learn, more books to burn from rule to shining rule"! (sing along)
Peak oil is when the maximum global rate of extraction is passed. We did. How hard is that to understand?
We're not even close. There's enough under the Rockies alone to last hundreds of years.
How did the oil companies miss this new find?
Because since 1971 we have not produced as much oil as we consume. That is why the oil companies recommended doing something about Iraq in the Energy Task Force Report.
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