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King Louis XIV and the cruelties of the Nine Years' War

The French artists won the war of the histories. Theirs is light, enlightenment, rights of man, carefully painted over horrors and crimes like the burning of the Palatinate. It's often forgotten that for centuries it was the French, and not the divided Germanies, that were the more powerful, aggressive and abusive power. But somehow from the pens of historians it is the militaristic Prussian that occupies the villain spot.
Yes - a forgotten part of the history.
 
The "theatre of war" then was not only the Palatinate, but also other parts of Germany - and also other parts of the World.

Including the American continent.
 
I wonder how many of you have heard about this war.
It tends to be forgotten.
 
He was a cruel monster, indeed! It's almost a cruel irony that his legacy is enshrined in art, beauty, Versailles Palace. When in fact he was closer to Atilla the Hun.

This reminds me to keep in mind that history is all smoke and mirrors. The innocent are tarnished, and the villain burnished. The villain just has to win and his sycophants will do the rest.
Atilla was Loui's buddy, they got tortured together as children and the Beast told Loui, "Get one of these."

So, they took their drugs and did their readings and knew their purpose and projected through the mists into the heart of their target and cut out the heart of their victim.

Herod's wife was his partner, having gotten out of female birth. She was pursuing Elisha for asking according to his neighbor, leaving her husband and daughter to the second death.

There was some indication that Loui was Elizabeth, but I don't know. After Loui, he went to be Jefferson.

He's called the False Prophet.

Ruler of the 9:00pm, companion of He, ruler with He at 9:00am. The Beast came to rule the 6:00am instead. The Antichrist was the only survivor of the 3:00am, a young boy escorted beyond the Creation Seal to learn he left his wife behind.
 
What happened in that war was absolutely terrible.
No laughing matter.
 
He was a cruel monster, indeed! It's almost a cruel irony that his legacy is enshrined in art, beauty, Versailles Palace. When in fact he was closer to Atilla the Hun.

This reminds me to keep in mind that history is all smoke and mirrors. The innocent are tarnished, and the villain burnished. The villain just has to win and his sycophants will do the rest.
Atilla went to be Cornwallis.

Kim Jong Un is the Antichrist here at the White Horse 2020-2030.5.
 
What happened in that war was absolutely terrible.
No laughing matter.
How do you think he feels now with Putin doing same thing?

He doesn't even know what he has coming.

He better just go back to Godhead.
 


Why the Thirty Years' War Was So Devastating - European Wars of Religion​


This war is better known.

But the Nine Years' War was no better.
 
Could be ....
Atilla's too much work for either of them, I'd look him up, but, it's be a lot of work. Imagine Jefferson sharing power with Cornwallis (oh, a miracle yippie yay, jump up and down about it).

But what's there to do? Find someone with a score and run for President? With both the Beast and False Prophet behind you,... It'd be kind of neat. It would spoil everybody.

Loui loves Atilla, because he's never seen anything like what he lit off.

He better just go back to Godhead too.
 


Why the Thirty Years' War Was So Devastating - European Wars of Religion​


This war is better known.

But the Nine Years' War was no better.

Are you looking for a better war?

A better war is Bush making them behave for their oil.
 
The reverence that Louis enjoys (or would enjoy, were he not dead) is the typical result of victors writing history.

It is also a typical example of why the French are the only nation that can tell you any difference between Napoleon and Hitler.:rolleyes:
 
I have not really read up much on 1600s wars past Westphalia. I certainly knew Louis XIV was waging wars but not much about the details. I do know what the Palatinate was, and it's geography would make it vulnerable to French aggression in any conflict with the Holy Roman Empire, of which there were many, other parts of the Rhineland would probably also be a victim of becoming battlefiled between the French and the Habsburgs (and of course the same would be true for what's today Belgium). Considering the number of participants and how the battles were fought all over the World, thanks to colonial empires being involved this war seem more to be like the wars in the 1700s than a typical 1600s war.
 
It is also a typical example of why the French are the only nation that can tell you any difference between Napoleon and Hitler.:rolleyes:
Those two had a lot in common - among other things: They had under-estimated Russia, and the Russian winter.
And they never landed in Britain.
 
I have not really read up much on 1600s wars past Westphalia. I certainly knew Louis XIV was waging wars but not much about the details. I do know what the Palatinate was, and it's geography would make it vulnerable to French aggression in any conflict with the Holy Roman Empire
Especially when the Holy Roman Empire was engaged in wars with the Turkish Army in the East.
 
The reverence that Louis enjoys (or would enjoy, were he not dead) is the typical result of victors writing history.
So it is across the ages.
 
Ezéchiel du Mas, Comte de Mélac[1] (about 1630, Sainte-Radegonde, Gironde – 10 May 1704) was a career soldier in the French army under King Louis XIV and war minister Louvois during the Nine Years' War.

He became notorious for mercilessly and brutally executing the French policy of devastating the enemy's lands rather than seeking major military engagements. The southwestern part of Germany—the Palatinate, the Margraviate of Baden, and the Duchy of Württemberg—especially suffered from Mélac's execution of Louvois's order, "brûlez le Palatinat!" (French: "Burn the Palatinate down!").[2] Under his command, numerous German towns and villages were set on fire and the livelihood of the population was destroyed. In present southwestern Germany, Mélac's name became a synonym for "murderer and arsonist". As a lasting result, until today, "Mélac" has also been turned into a common dog's name in this part of Germany. "Lack[e]l" (i.e. "oaf", if translated friendly) is a swearword common to the day in almost all of southern Germany and said to be derived from "Melac" as its diminutive.

The General is considered the godfather of the French–German enmity that ultimately contributed to causing the two World Wars


This Comte de Mélac deserves a special mentioning.
 
@ Saarlouis

Saarlouis (German: [ˌzaːɐ̯luˈiː]; French: Sarrelouis, [saʁlwi]; formerly Sarre-Libre and Saarlautern) is a town in Saarland, Germany, capital of the district of Saarlouis. In 2020, the town had a population of 34,409. Saarlouis, as the name implies, is located on the river Saar. It was built as a fortress in 1680 and was named after Louis XIV of France.


Quite a paradox:

A town that bears the name of the "Sun King" still, built as a fortress against Germany by Louis XIV, now a town within Germany.
 
Just imagine:

Hitler had founded a fortification in France and gave the town the name "Hitler-Stadt".
I wonder whether the French had not re-named that town later?
 
The reverence that Louis enjoys (or would enjoy, were he not dead) is the typical result of victors writing history.
It is also a typical example of why the French are the only nation that can tell you any difference between Napoleon and Hitler.:rolleyes:
Question:

Do you think that Louis XIV deserves to have a German city named after him - after all his cruelty to Germany?
For me it is as if Russia named a Russian city in Hitler's honour Adolfograd - or so ...
 
Question:

Do you think that Louis XIV deserves to have a German city named after him - after all his cruelty to Germany?
For me it is as if Russia named a Russian city in Hitler's honour Adolfograd - or so ...
Which German city are you referencing?
 
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