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Does anyone have the Kindle and if so, was it worth the money?

I'm considering it, although I was resistant at first because there's just something about curling up with a good book. I'm not going to give up my books, but it would be nice to have something a little more portable for instances when lugging around a book or two just isn't feasible.
 
I keep three bookshelves worth of gaming books on my laptop, for reference while playing or working.

For pleasure reading, I prefer the real deal.
 
I've heard nothing but great things about it, and from my one-time use of it, I thought it was fantastic.
 
Using it for research with PDF files. If you are using it for research purposes, I wouldn't recommend the Kindle or e-book readers when it comes to digital books through their stores. There seems to be a lack of continuity with page numbers and creating a system that is easy to refer back to the physical text.

With PDF files, it is fantastic. I'm able to do my research, albeit, through one size fonts (small most of the time), and due to my source material, no text-to-speech, but it is far more readable that a computer screen, and the battery life kicks ass. I'll see what happens later with it when I am using different source material. But I'm reading with correct page numbers (counting the front page, I suppose, so it is maybe one page off for my reading thus far), allowing me to do research without a laptop that goes dead every few hours without an outlet.

The online browser experience is nice, for what I do, at least for now. I'm sure I will crash that browser frequently enough in the future.

Doing in-text searching is fantastic, but I can think of very specific times where the physical text will probably be better. If one has ever looked at the History of Woman Suffrage volumes, it is clear to any reader that they are a monster to navigate in the flesh, and as a result, it will be difficult to navigate in virtual form. Nevertheless, the price difference was incredible (5 bucks for 3 volumes via the Kindle store versus some 100 dollars for 3-4 volumes hardcover used). In-text searching is what I could have really used in the flesh, but it is more cumbersome to quickly travel from random page to random page, like a physical book. So, for constant back-and-forth travels between index and multiple pages in the work itself, the Kindle is going to be a bigger pain in the ass for most of that type of research work in comparison to just having the book in front of you. One can do this sort of thing on the Kindle (and I'm sure I'll learn some tricks soon), but it is a process of hitting a button then selecting another on-screen option before typing in the page you want, scrolling over to hit the button to make it go.

For pleasure reading, this is a great device. I'll see how my use goes when I am not using it for history research, but I envision this technology to kind of really take off if publishers realize they can make books cheaper than 8 bucks and relax about the darn text-to-speech nonsense (and most are). What will continue to be interesting is the DRM and the EULA that is getting them into some trouble. Until the 1984/Animal Farm fiasco, I was not so sure how the public would react to it. Afterwards, it seems like to me that unless something dramatic happens, I think the DRM will be transparent for most users (ie, not noticeable or a concern).

It's so tempting to sign up for a bunch of publications that one would not previously consider, due to the ease of use. On the other side, controlling urges is going to be possibly more difficult, and your wallet may suffer.
 
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I'd like to know if I should get my wife one(or the B&N equivalent). Because of her, I basically have a library of Nora Roberts books, and an ever increasing amount of vampire sex novels in my house right now.
 
Does anyone have the Kindle and if so, was it worth the money?

I'm considering it, although I was resistant at first because there's just something about curling up with a good book. I'm not going to give up my books, but it would be nice to have something a little more portable for instances when lugging around a book or two just isn't feasible.

I have my problems with something like Kindle.

1) They have control over what is on your Kindle, and can directly delete anything in it. This was shown, when by accident, they deleted "The Catcher in the Rye" on many Kindles.

2) You have to pay for most content.

3) Screen is too small.

I prefer my tablet PC, and I have a library of about 20,000 ebooks I can choose from. This works for me.
 
2) You have to pay for most content.

3) Screen is too small.

I prefer my tablet PC, and I have a library of about 20,000 ebooks I can choose from. This works for me.

2) Well, yeah. I don't understand this complaint. That comes with the territory of the written word (or music, or video). Remember that we still have the public domain works or more open projects.

3) Well, there is also the DX (which I considered, but ultimately settled on the 6" model, which has not disappointed me). I'm used to larger hardcovers, myself, but I haven't ran into that issue aside from PDF files that are displaying the text incredibly small (which is alright for me, but horrid for others).

There is that temptation for tablet pcs to take over the blossoming market, but I think screen fatigue is still going to be a massive issue, along with battery life. Then there may continue to be an issue with size. Nevertheless, what may end up bringing tablets to the market is the frustration with the idea that you have a phone, an iPod, an ebook reader, and a notebook. Personally, I have mostly been in favor of spreading out the specialty of devices.
 
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I'd like to know if I should get my wife one(or the B&N equivalent). Because of her, I basically have a library of Nora Roberts books, and an ever increasing amount of vampire sex novels in my house right now.

With the Nook, I would wait. If you are really uncertain, withhold the temptation to purchase a reader right away. The nook is needing software updates to get the desired amount of workability or "must buy", as I understand it. With technology (especially a technology that is trying to replace or push forward the written word past paper-something we have used for centuries!), it can't exactly hurt to wait.
 
These eReaders are just too expensive for such a limited device. Either lower the price or improve their capabilities.
 
These eReaders are just too expensive for such a limited device. Either lower the price or improve their capabilities.

I think people are more open to these devises costing such a sum. The iPod and other early HDD-based players did well under a 200-300 some dollar price-range. I'm sure eventually we will see them have lower-priced models (with some axing of features, conventionally) for a sub-100 dollar price range.

If people do not attach these devices with quality of the text or maneuverability of it (say like bibliophiles or what audiophiles consider with digital audio players-dap-), then they consider heavily the user experience of being able to store one's entire book library with ease of use and probably a unique experience to traditional reading. For this reason, I think we are getting pretty close to seeing what digital reading can do for us.
 
I think people are more open to these devises costing such a sum. The iPod and other early HDD-based players did well under a 200-300 some dollar price-range. I'm sure eventually we will see them have lower-priced models (with some axing of features, conventionally) for a sub-100 dollar price range.

If people do not attach these devices with quality of the text or maneuverability of it (say like bibliophiles or what audiophiles consider with digital audio players-dap-), then they consider heavily the user experience of being able to store one's entire book library with ease of use and probably a unique experience to traditional reading. For this reason, I think we are getting pretty close to seeing what digital reading can do for us.

Axe which features? Take the Sony Pocket Reader at $200. It has a 5" screen and a measly 1/2 GB of onboard storage. It's way overpriced. No WiFi, no touchscreen, no MP3 player, no image viewer, and no expansion slot. You can read text and that's it. This model should be priced between $75-$100.

The other models need to have full web browsing capabilities to justify their steep prices. This is the age of convergence and what we're seeing here is a step back in time to single purpose gadgets. The first Tablet to hit the market below $500 will kill off the eReaders.

If Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Sony expect to remain viable in this market, they're going to have to morph their eReaders into Tablets or they'll be left behind as technology marches forward.
 
You are also selective in your example. At 250 dollars, the Kindle and Nook have a lot more behind it. But you know as well as I do that the products will axe features for the cheaper price point. Perhaps 500 dollars is too much to ask for readers who are used to cheap paperbacks, whereas 250 dollars or less makes sense for a massive storage unit and user experience dedicated to reading.

Convergence is a good point, but as someone who is skeptical of an all-in-one device for, well, nearly anything, there is much to be said about devices who nail one experience versus those who cannot say the same about any of the vast array of features they provide. Sometimes it even takes that device to nail the one experience before any sort of convergence can happen.

You have a lot of faith in the tablet, but for well over a decade, I haven't. You have to beware of how people have claimed eye-strain for years about computer screens, and that as a major reason why they had not adopted digital text. You have to beware of battery life. Techies claim that people are perfectly fine with the concept that you should charge a device every day, but others think that is far too inconvenient (or, really, since it is a tablet, once a day is far too infrequent of expectations-I would expect a few times a day).

With a tablet, you have the capability to change the way stories are told, making them interactive or more video or audio-like. That's still a new concept that needs a great deal of time to occur for a market that has really stayed the same for decades. It will be a niche product for a great deal of time (if not always). With ebook readers, you can make books social, but perhaps not as quickly social-media accessible as a notebook or tablet. For me, that will probably make things more like BD-Live, which is commentary driven, but for most people, rather useless.

What I like computers for is the variety of compression technologies, the ability to create new kinds of ways to interact with data and demonstrate their potential. The problem is executing it to a degree that actually matters to the rest of the public.
 
I received a Nook for Christmas and I like it okay so far. I'm a voracious reader, and will frequently go through 2-3 books a week, so it's nice for someone like me. It's got a few problems though that'll hopefully be fixed soon with software updates. It takes quite awhile to turn on (as in nearly a minute), although waking up from sleep mode is fast. Loading books takes maybe 10-15 seconds, and page turns take maybe half a second. Their delivery service also needs a bit of work, as it was completely unavailable on Christmas day due to the servers being overloaded. I don't know if that'll happen again or not to be honest.

Some of the benefits of it: The screen looks very nice, little difference between it and actual words on a page. Being able to change the font and text size is nice too, for those that have vision problems. It fits nicely in your hand, being slightly larger than a paperback books, and roughly as heavy as a thick paperback. I also uses a non-proprietary book format (epub), so if you're willing to download books to your PC first before putting them on the device, you aren't required to buy from Barnes and Noble. The touchscreen works well too, though whether you prefer that or something like the kindle's keyboard is a matter of preference.

All in all, after having it for just a few days, I'm quite happy with it so far. Keep in mind though that if you order one now, you probably won't be getting it for quite awhile. They're backordered a month or so.
 
You are also selective in your example. At 250 dollars, the Kindle and Nook have a lot more behind it. But you know as well as I do that the products will axe features for the cheaper price point. Perhaps 500 dollars is too much to ask for readers who are used to cheap paperbacks, whereas 250 dollars or less makes sense for a massive storage unit and user experience dedicated to reading.

Selective in what? You brought up cheaper devices with a corresponding cut in features, so I gave you an example of an eReader cut to the absolute minimum and it's still overpriced at $200.
 
Convergence is a good point, but as someone who is skeptical of an all-in-one device for, well, nearly anything, there is much to be said about devices who nail one experience versus those who cannot say the same about any of the vast array of features they provide. Sometimes it even takes that device to nail the one experience before any sort of convergence can happen.

Hmmm ..you have a point. So, for my trip I'll need a cell phone, an MP3 player, an eReader, a video player, a portable gaming system, a PDA, a laptop, a GPS, and a big ass pack to tote all of this wonderful portability.
 
Hmmm ..you have a point. So, for my trip I'll need a cell phone, an MP3 player, an eReader, a video player, a portable gaming system, a PDA, a laptop, a GPS, and a big ass pack to tote all of this wonderful portability.

Well, if you want a device that isn't so great as a phone, hasn't really nailed down sound quality or playlist management or music syncing, smashes reading down to too small of a screen, has no real video codec support or an impressive enough screen, creates eye strain, drains battery, lacks a highly supported gaming market, has a lackluster gps service in one device because convergence is truly something that has continuously shown itself to be a good development idea in any sense of the imagination....sure, go for the all-in-one!
 
As long as they continue to control the content with DRM, lack an expanded memory option (such as SD cards), and fail to honor book purchases if you buy a newer version of the Kindle, I have no interest in buying their hardware.
 
Well, if you want a device that isn't so great as a phone, hasn't really nailed down sound quality or playlist management or music syncing, smashes reading down to too small of a screen, has no real video codec support or an impressive enough screen, creates eye strain, drains battery, lacks a highly supported gaming market, has a lackluster gps service in one device because convergence is truly something that has continuously shown itself to be a good development idea in any sense of the imagination....sure, go for the all-in-one!

Agreed. I bought a blackberry for the first time in July, and I'm fairly disappointed. Most of the stuff works great, except for the phone. It seems like they're kind of missing the point.
 
As long as they continue to control the content with DRM, lack an expanded memory option (such as SD cards), and fail to honor book purchases if you buy a newer version of the Kindle, I have no interest in buying their hardware.

This is my major gripe with these tech companies - they still want to control the product after the sale. I'm sorry, but it's not theirs anymore; it's mine. I bought and paid for it. It's up to me to decide what content I wish to place onto my device.

Amazon's 1984 fiasco really showed their true colors. I have little trust for any entity that would do what they did. They're just as bad as the government.

The problem with Amazon, Apple and a few others is that these companies want us, the consumers, tethered to their environment for life. They'll decide what content we should be allowed to bring into our lives. They're the embodiment of Big Brother ..how ironic.
 
Does anyone have the Kindle and if so, was it worth the money?

I'm considering it, although I was resistant at first because there's just something about curling up with a good book. I'm not going to give up my books, but it would be nice to have something a little more portable for instances when lugging around a book or two just isn't feasible.
got one for christmas...i already LOVE it.
 
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