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this obsession with "transitional" gov't is stalling any progress. Assad is brutal (barrel bombs) - so are ISIL al-Nusra, and the assorted jihadists, the Sunni's.
Syria has an air force, and Hezbollah. Saudi Arabia is funneling arms. It is a regional AND proxy war.
"Assad must go" is crap. no fan of Assad, but what is the alternative? Aleppo is in ruins, Homs was just evacuated - while shelling was happening.
Find a way to stop the war, best thing is no preconditions. Then worry about governing
There is just 1 solution for Syria -> international coalition goes in, wipes the place clean of rebels and terrorists, removes assad from power, allows for free and democratic elections, bugs out.
Anything else, supporting either side, is bad. Because neither side is good... I say neither but really there are like, 3-4 factions fighting in that small country. The loyalists, the islamists, the kurdish separatists and the liberation army which is... you know... almost gone either dead or coopted by the islamists.
There is no good side.
There is just 1 solution for Syria -> international coalition goes in, wipes the place clean of rebels and terrorists, removes assad from power, allows for free and democratic elections, bugs out.
Anything else, supporting either side, is bad. Because neither side is good... I say neither but really there are like, 3-4 factions fighting in that small country. The loyalists, the islamists, the kurdish separatists and the liberation army which is... you know... almost gone either dead or coopted by the islamists.
There is no good side.
List of armed groups in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
just look at the huge amount of factions, then look at the "spillovers" in Lebanon and Iraq. If an 'international coalition" goes in - how do you remove all these groups? They are embedded.
More importantly if you could even do so, it just leaves a complete power vacuum. How do you keep them from returning??
Mornin' RM. :2wave: Problem with that scenario. Is then the country will still be handed to the Majority of Sunni Arabs as they will flood the elections to make sure no others gain control.
I could see doing this.....if we wiped out the Saudis permanently and remove one of the major causes of the Sectarian divide and all that self alleged Kingship and controlling of their other puppets.
US Secretary of State John Kerry slammed Russia on Monday for "enabling" Syria's President Bashar al-Assad to stay in power in the war-torn country, after Geneva peace talks broke off without result at the weekend.
" Russia needs to be a part of the solution and not be distributing so much more weapons and so much more aid that they're in fact enabling Assad to double-down. Which is creating an enormous problem."
At the weekend, Kerry blamed the Syrian regime's "obstruction" for the breakdown at the talks.
On Monday he also lashed out at Syria again, saying the regime "refused to open up one moment of discussion legitimately about a transitional government".
"Everybody should agree that the Assad regime's attitude is what has made these talks tougher," he added.
Read more: Kerry slams Russia for 'enabling' Assad to stay in power | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: Breaking News, Lebanon News, Middle East News & World News | THE DAILY STAR)
Truly Team Obama has no clue with what they are doing overseas.....really to try and blame just Assad is Pathetic. Now to call out the Russians for providing Arms.....while the Saudi and the US providing weapons and aid. While all around the region and the UN knowing. Is quite lame.
Its increasingly clear this Administration does not know how to proceed forward. They need to wake up.....Syria is not going to be handed to the Sunni and the Saud. Assad is winning.....there is no reason for him to even listen to this BS. No reason to respond.
The entire UN knows the US has backed the Rebels/Terrorists and have done so despite knowing who was all involved with the opposition. When they set up the Original leadership. Trying to fall back onto Obama's words of Assad must go, isn't working. Its not going to work.
So go back and tell Obama get over it.....No one is listening to your lying ass anymore.
Well, it's not a huge amount of factions. It's 4 factions according to wikipedia (but they count the syrian liberation as part of islamic supremacists... so idk about that, i'd rather let them be standalone by all standards and pair the islamists with the ISIS faction since they're in the same boat), each with multiple groups part of it. Well 5 if you include israel, 6 with turkey and 7 with lebannon but those don't have "issues" with Syria other than they don't want what's in syria coming to them. It's safe to say that if you "clean up" syria, israel, turkey and lebannon will stand down, relaxed and at ease.
The factions change their allied relationships; though we know the basic outlines. I do not see how you can implement any parliamentary ( other otherwise) type of government.
What does the Syrian army want? Will the Islamists accept less then an Islamic state? The jihadists-are they willing to lay down arms?
How about the regional powers - will they stop funding/sending fighters?
The best analogy I can come up with is a boiling cauldron of internecine hate and willingness to die for a 'cause'.
Any transitional gov't wouldn't have a chance, unless we got the regional players and the Russians to enforce a peaceful transition.
Just don't see it happening while everyone is trying to leverage their advantages; much less agree to cooperate
US Secretary of State John Kerry slammed Russia on Monday for "enabling" Syria's President Bashar al-Assad to stay in power in the war-torn country, after Geneva peace talks broke off without result at the weekend.
" Russia needs to be a part of the solution and not be distributing so much more weapons and so much more aid that they're in fact enabling Assad to double-down. Which is creating an enormous problem."
At the weekend, Kerry blamed the Syrian regime's "obstruction" for the breakdown at the talks.
On Monday he also lashed out at Syria again, saying the regime "refused to open up one moment of discussion legitimately about a transitional government".
"Everybody should agree that the Assad regime's attitude is what has made these talks tougher," he added.
Read more: Kerry slams Russia for 'enabling' Assad to stay in power | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: Breaking News, Lebanon News, Middle East News & World News | THE DAILY STAR)
Truly Team Obama has no clue with what they are doing overseas.....really to try and blame just Assad is Pathetic. Now to call out the Russians for providing Arms.....while the Saudi and the US providing weapons and aid. While all around the region and the UN knowing. Is quite lame.
Its increasingly clear this Administration does not know how to proceed forward. They need to wake up.....Syria is not going to be handed to the Sunni and the Saud. Assad is winning.....there is no reason for him to even listen to this BS. No reason to respond.
The entire UN knows the US has backed the Rebels/Terrorists and have done so despite knowing who was all involved with the opposition. When they set up the Original leadership. Trying to fall back onto Obama's words of Assad must go, isn't working. Its not going to work.
So go back and tell Obama get over it.....No one is listening to your lying ass anymore.
I don't understand what's lame about it at all.
- The US doesn't like Assad.
- Kerry is claiming Russia is supporting Assad.
- Russia is supporting Assad.
- Kerry makes comments decrying it.
It's all very normal. He's the Secretary of State. What's lame about this?
US Secretary of State John Kerry slammed Russia on Monday for "enabling" Syria's President Bashar al-Assad to stay in power in the war-torn country, after Geneva peace talks broke off without result at the weekend.
" Russia needs to be a part of the solution and not be distributing so much more weapons and so much more aid that they're in fact enabling Assad to double-down. Which is creating an enormous problem."
At the weekend, Kerry blamed the Syrian regime's "obstruction" for the breakdown at the talks.
On Monday he also lashed out at Syria again, saying the regime "refused to open up one moment of discussion legitimately about a transitional government".
"Everybody should agree that the Assad regime's attitude is what has made these talks tougher," he added.
Read more: Kerry slams Russia for 'enabling' Assad to stay in power | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: Breaking News, Lebanon News, Middle East News & World News | THE DAILY STAR)
Truly Team Obama has no clue with what they are doing overseas.....really to try and blame just Assad is Pathetic. Now to call out the Russians for providing Arms.....while the Saudi and the US providing weapons and aid. While all around the region and the UN knowing. Is quite lame.
Its increasingly clear this Administration does not know how to proceed forward. They need to wake up.....Syria is not going to be handed to the Sunni and the Saud. Assad is winning.....there is no reason for him to even listen to this BS. No reason to respond.
The entire UN knows the US has backed the Rebels/Terrorists and have done so despite knowing who was all involved with the opposition. When they set up the Original leadership. Trying to fall back onto Obama's words of Assad must go, isn't working. Its not going to work.
So go back and tell Obama get over it.....No one is listening to your lying ass anymore.
Heya OCO. Well, pretty much the rest of the planet knows we have been supporting the Sauds ambitions and the Rebels/Terrorists too.
That's whats why its so lame.
Uh...so? What does that have to do with anything? Are you trying to imply it's hypocritical or something? Then all foreign policy and relations would be. Just seems like normal interaction to me.
There is just 1 solution for Syria -> international coalition goes in, wipes the place clean of rebels and terrorists, removes assad from power, allows for free and democratic elections, bugs out.
It has to do with the political posturing over bringing peace to the ME.....US Foreign Policy concerning the ME by Both sides was wrong, from the original take with the assessment that we can do business with those that are so called and self professed Moderates.
...what does that have to do with what he said? Like, you're seriously upset over...nothing. This is nothing. A total nonstory.
Yeah, its a non story other than on Political merits of what Team Obama has already stated.....as like I said. Assad is winning. So he don't even have to respond back. Also since Lavrov isn't to concerned over the matter.
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