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Kennedy[W:480]

No way it was one gunman. IMO, there were at least three, if not 4 or 5.

I got five shots with at least three gunmen. Jfk was shot by each one.

1. 160- Missed from rear, probably a signal that the car turned on Elm.

2. 223- Jfk shot in throat/through windshield

3. 234- Connally shot in back.

4. Jfk shot in back right before headshot.

5. 313- Greer shoots jfk in the forehead.
 
I got five shots with at least three gunmen. Jfk was shot by each one.

1. 160- Missed from rear, probably a signal that the car turned on Elm.

2. 223- Jfk shot in throat/through windshield

3. 234- Connally shot in back.

4. Jfk shot in back right before headshot.

5. 313- Greer shoots jfk in the forehead.

I'm just not seeing the Greer shot, but I agree the kill shot came from the front. I just think it came from the storm sewer, front-right.
 
Not until very recently did I realize that jfk was shot in the back right before the headshot. My focus was always on the exit wound and the headshot with some work put into the bullet hole in the windshield. I never had strong feelings about the last 2 shots, but mostly believed one was fired to confuse those on elm street.

Everything important has finally come together and makes perfect sense for the universal belief that the president was shot three times. Two of those shots coming from the front make any rear shooter totally irrelevant. This new evidence is the only way the government would ever revise this case because they could simply add a gunshot wound without changing any prior conclusions from decades ago.

The back shot had to come from a different shooter because there wasn't enough time to get off another shot, as the last 2 shots were separated by less than a 1/4 second. It takes at least 3/4 of a second between shots.

JFK: Statement of Glen A. Bennett, eyewitness to the assassination of John F. Kennedy

"At this point I heard what sounded like a fire-cracker. I immediately looked from the right/crowd/physical area/and looked towards the President who was seated in the right rear seat of his limousine open convertible. At the moment I looked at the back of the President I heard another fire-cracker noise and saw the shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder. A second shot followed immediately and hit the right rear high of the President's head."

How Five Investigations into JFK's Medical/Autopsy Evidence Got it Wrong - Discussion

Secret Service agent Glenn Bennett was riding in the follow up car. He was the first to document, in contemporaneous notes, Kennedy taking the back shot. He wrote, “"I looked at the back of the President. I heard another firecracker noise and saw that shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder."[339] The Warren Commission accorded his observations “substantial weight,” writing, "Although [Bennett’s] formal statement was dated November 23, 1963, his notes indicate that he recorded what he saw and heard at 5:30 p.m., November 22, 1963, on the airplane en route back to Washington, prior to the autopsy, when it was not yet known that the President had been hit in the back.”[

For starters, the Zapruder film clearly shows jfk's back being impacted right before he's shot in the face. It kinda looks like a 'pow' from a batman episode. The other two films also show an impact but not quite the same way. What SS agent Glen Bennett reported seeing is exactly confirmed by all three films. For all intents and purposes the jfk assassination has finally been solved.

 
I have a new question about an old subject. In the video of the Kennedy motorcade when he got shot, you can see the driver quickly turn around and shoot him, then continue driving as if nothing happened. How is it that nobody saw this before? I could see maybe the spectators missing it, but it took this long for someone to notice it in the video?? That's impossible. And why hasn't the guy been arrested, and the guy riding shotgun as well?

Was Mr. Kennedy shot in the frontal part of his head or the rear part? Being the driver would have been in front of Mr. Kennedy, it would make sense if the frontal part of Mr. Kennedy's head was pierced.
 
Was Mr. Kennedy shot in the frontal part of his head or the rear part? Being the driver would have been in front of Mr. Kennedy, it would make sense if the frontal part of Mr. Kennedy's head was pierced.

It makes sense other than the fact that it is not supported by the evidence or by the eyewitnesses that were there. Leave out those key parts and yeah sure it makes perfect sense
 
Posted before, yet ignored. No one to date has debunked the findings presented by NOVA.

NOVA - Official Website | Cold Case JFK

"PETE CUMMINGS: Based on this fracture pattern in this skull, I think we can definitively say, "No. There was no shot from the side or from the front..".

"NARRATOR: This is consistent with the physical evidence. The bullet that hit Kennedy's head fragmented, leaving pieces in the brain and in the car. Sturdivan thinks the pressure wave created by the bullet inside the brain also explains Kennedy's movement backward.
LARRY STURDIVAN: The tissue inside the skull was being moved around. It caused a massive amount of nerve stimulation to go down his spine. Every nerve in his body was stimulated. Now, since the back muscles are stronger than the abdominal muscles, that meant that Kennedy arched dramatically backwards."

"NARRATOR: No experiments can show why someone would take a rifle to a high window and pull the trigger. But they can show it's probable that Lee Harvey Oswald did and that his shots alone killed President John F. Kennedy.
LUKE HAAG: The essence of good forensic science is to look at what are the competing explanations of an event. And if you can rule out that which is impossible, that which remains, however seemingly improbable, is the truth."

If someone posts that NOVA is just a puppet to the Govt. you need to prove it.
If you disagree with the findings and conclusions, you need to provide something other than opinion.
 
Posted before, yet ignored. No one to date has debunked the findings presented by NOVA.

NOVA - Official Website | Cold Case JFK

"PETE CUMMINGS: Based on this fracture pattern in this skull, I think we can definitively say, "No. There was no shot from the side or from the front..".

"NARRATOR: This is consistent with the physical evidence. The bullet that hit Kennedy's head fragmented, leaving pieces in the brain and in the car. Sturdivan thinks the pressure wave created by the bullet inside the brain also explains Kennedy's movement backward.
LARRY STURDIVAN: The tissue inside the skull was being moved around. It caused a massive amount of nerve stimulation to go down his spine. Every nerve in his body was stimulated. Now, since the back muscles are stronger than the abdominal muscles, that meant that Kennedy arched dramatically backwards."

"NARRATOR: No experiments can show why someone would take a rifle to a high window and pull the trigger. But they can show it's probable that Lee Harvey Oswald did and that his shots alone killed President John F. Kennedy.
LUKE HAAG: The essence of good forensic science is to look at what are the competing explanations of an event. And if you can rule out that which is impossible, that which remains, however seemingly improbable, is the truth."

If someone posts that NOVA is just a puppet to the Govt. you need to prove it.
If you disagree with the findings and conclusions, you need to provide something other than opinion.

fake news
 
Opinion noted. Your challenge now is show that the NOVA documentary is "fake news"

You have failed to show why the analysis done is false.

PBS. Fake news site. Done.
 
Nope. Why would we take your word for it? Provide some sources to back up your claim.

PBS is liberal. everyone knows liberal news is fake news.
 
PBS is liberal. everyone knows liberal news is fake news.

It is clear you cannot provide anything to back up your statements or disprove the documentary I provided a link for review.

Believe what you want. The operative word is "believe". That does not make what you post the "truth". Not going to waste anymore time unless you can come up with sources to show your correct.
 
It is clear you cannot provide anything to back up your statements or disprove the documentary I provided a link for review.

Believe what you want. The operative word is "believe". That does not make what you post the "truth". Not going to waste anymore time unless you can come up with sources to show your correct.

I'm surprised you wasted as much time as you did as it is.
 
I have a new question about an old subject. In the video of the Kennedy motorcade when he got shot, you can see the driver quickly turn around and shoot him, then continue driving as if nothing happened. How is it that nobody saw this before? I could see maybe the spectators missing it, but it took this long for someone to notice it in the video?? That's impossible. And why hasn't the guy been arrested, and the guy riding shotgun as well?

Here's something I ran across: Lee Harvey Oswald’s little green book shows JFK wasn't the real target. Any thoughts?

Lee Harvey Oswald’s little green book shows JFK wasn't the real target - LA Times

Lee Harvey Oswald’s little green book shows JFK wasn't the real target

John F. Kennedy, Jacqueline Kennedy and John Connally
President John F. Kennedy, Jacqueline Kennedy and Texas Governor John Connally sit in a car taking them in a motorcade from the Love Field Airport to the Dallas Trade Mart on Nov. 22, 1963. (UPI)
James Reston Jr.

In the hours after the Kennedy assassination, after Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit and was identified as the president’s assassin, a Secret Service officer named Mike Howard was dispatched to Oswald’s apartment. Howard found a little green address book, and on its 17th page under the heading “I WILL KILL” Oswald listed four men: an FBI agent named James Hosty; a right-wing general, Edwin Walker; and Vice President Richard Nixon. At the top of the list was the governor of Texas, John Connally. Through Connally’s name, Oswald had drawn a dagger, with blood drops dripping downward.

Special Agent Howard turned the address book over to the FBI and, ultimately, to the Warren Commission. Only some time later did he learn that the list with its hugely important insight into the killer’s motive had been torn out of the book.

I didn’t hear about Howard until after I published my book “The Accidental Victim” three years ago on the 50th anniversary of the assassination. In it I argue a circumstantial case that it was Connally, not John F. Kennedy, who was Oswald’s target in Dallas. It is the story of a smoldering grudge in which Oswald came to associate Connally with all the setbacks in his disastrous, hopeless life.

In her testimony to the Warren Commission, Oswald’s wife, Marina, definitively named Connally and not Kennedy as her husband’s target.

This grudge got started in January 1962. Oswald was in the Soviet Union, where he’d gone after being honorably discharged from the Marine Corps. When the Marines learned he wanted to defect, Oswald’s discharge was summarily downgraded to undesirable. (The defection was never consummated.) Oswald was angry and for good reason; his actions after his discharge had nothing to do with his three years as a Marine.

By early 1962, Oswald was disenchanted with Soviet life and wanted to return home. He was now saddled with a wife, Marina, and a child, and he knew that someone with a ninth-grade education, who had spent time in Russia and had an undesirable discharge on his record, would have few prospects in America.

Oswald wrote a heartfelt plea to Connally, a fellow Texan and the head of the Navy Department, the civilian overseer of the Marines. In poignant terms Oswald asked Connally to redress what was a transparent miscarriage of justice. What he got back a month later, in February 1962, was a classic bureaucratic brushoff. The dismissive letter arrived in an envelope with Connally’s smiling face on the front, bursting from a Texas star and announcing his bid for the Texas governorship.

In the months after Oswald’s return to America, his worst fears were realized. He did, indeed, have serious trouble finding and holding jobs in Texas. According to the testimony of Russian emigres in Dallas who knew him during this period, every time his discharge came up in a job interview, Oswald froze, and his blame of Connally deepened.

In her testimony to the Warren Commission, Oswald’s wife, Marina, definitively named Connally and not Kennedy as her husband’s target. She repeated this belief in testimony to the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1978. Dallas emigres also testified to Oswald’s obsession with Connally. Moreover, there was ample testimony that Oswald bore no animus toward Kennedy. Indeed, he admired JFK’s important initiatives like the president’s efforts at detente with Russia.

Why was this evidence on motive ignored and buried in the official investigations? More pointedly, why is Oswald’s little green book – which I’ve examined in the National Archives – missing that pivotal page? For many years, in a community college class he teaches, retired Special Agent Howard has put forward his view of the assassination: Connally, not Kennedy, was Oswald’s target.


The rest of the article can be found on the URL
 
So why are we talking about all this context for presidential communications?

Because of the Dallas Emergency Operations Center. We want to know who was in it, and what they were doing, between noon and 3pm on 11/22/1963.

Who was actually in the Dallas Emergency Operations Center that day?

I don't know if ballantine will see this, and maybe this has already been covered, but according to a 1978 Dallas Morning News article, W.S. Biggio and Don Stringfellow were manning the "police intelligence comminications" at the Fairgrounds on 11/22.

Stringfellow and Biggio were working the police radio at the Fairgrounds on 11/22/63

“Army Apparently didn't tell Commission of Oswald's Alias”
Dallas Morning News March 19, 1978
in the Weisberg Collection
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weis...ds Release 12-7-77 News Accounts/Item 069.pdf


My question is, were they serving as Army Reserve Officers or Dallas City Police Detectives that day" Were they on duty? Physically were the "police intelligence communications equipment" and the "continuity of government" equipment the same pieces of equipment? I know their offices were located next door to each other. I need to look at a blueprint or floor plan.

Steve Thomas
 
Who was actually in the Dallas Emergency Operations Center that day?

I don't know if ballantine will see this, but a 1978 Dallas Morning News article said that W.S. Biggio and Don Stringfellow were manning the "police emergency communications" on 11/22.
Biggio was in charge. My question is, were Biggio acting in their capacity as U.S. Army Reservists, or Dallas City Police Detectives? Were the pieces of "police emergency communications" equipment the same pieces of equipment as the "continuity of government"? I know they had offices side-by side, but I need to look at a blueprint or floorplan.

Steve Thomas
 
How many times has this thread been raised from the dead?
 
Why does VP Mike Pence hide his religion? He was raised Irish Catholic like JFK, but attended Baptist churches later in life. It's strange right?
 
Too much TV makes little johnny stupid
 
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