Kennedy to announce plan to remove artificial dyes from the nation’s food supply (2 Viewers)

[Michael Cole]

I am unsure of how big of a deal artificial dyes in beef are.

A cursory google gives a list of natural food dyes used with beef and claims that dying fresh beef is unnecessary / uncommon

Beef is treated with carbon monoxide.

I don't know if CO is covered under this order, but I do not like brown beef. Walmart must not treat their beef as it's always brown. I never buy beef from Walmart.

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Beef turns brown by oxidation, hence the introduction of carbon monoxide which replaces the oxygen in the meat.

 

[MamboDervish]

I've never heard of ground beef containing artificial food dyes. Where did you hear that was the case?

Perhaps that association dates way back to my childhood. I do know that efforts are deliberately made to retain color in meat for that purpose. But I'm getting the impression that you're in denial, or simply ignorant of how ubiquitous dyes are in our food and beverages. Without them every bottle of Gatorade would look the same.

Personally, I don't care if they're removed from the food chain, because they are very rarely in anything I eat or drink. Certainly not in any quantity that can have a bad effect on me. If I ate a donut with green icing once every St. Patrick's Day, I don't think my body would notice. But I know the decorations on birthday cakes would all but disappear, and the colors in some ice cream, gelato and flavored ices, would certainly make a visual difference on display. Abolishing it will not have a small economic impact.

Food color is also used extensively in dog foods, which is entirely for the people who buy it, because dogs are colorblind.

 

[NOLA Dude]

It depends entirely on the source of the dye. They vary greatly.

I was asking why they are banned and not the source of the dye. They obviously banned them or required warning labels because they are shown to be harmful.

You've answered your own question. "some"

What's your point? The Biden administration banned one of the red food dyes. Why did they do that?

See the word "some" above.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Beef is treated with carbon monoxide.
I don't know if CO is covered under this order, but I do not like brown beef. Walmart must not treat their beef as it's always brown. I never buy beef from Walmart.

I'd expect not.

It's not a dye

 

[NOLA Dude]

Like I said. If you don't want it, don't eat it. You don't need the government to babysit you. Or do you...?

Those companies make the same products for other countries that don't include those dyes. Why can't they give us those same products? It's all about profit.

Many people don't know how harmful these dyes or the other 10,000 artificial chemical in our food are also bad for us. Should we just say screw those people if they aren't aware?

 

[NOLA Dude]

Some of the Red Dyes mess my daughter up, but, as @BirdinHand points out - that's why we don't eat foods with red dyes in them.

What about the people who aren't aware how bad they are or poor people who don't have many options?

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Regarding the modern dyes, I don't see anything solid enough to warrant government action like this.

A maga doesn't see the problem.
Oh my.....

Several synthetic food dyes have raised concerns about potential carcinogenicity. Red Dye No. 3 (Erythrosine) has been shown to cause cancer in animals, and the FDA banned its use in cosmetics and drugs but not food, until it recently banned its use in food as well. Other dyes like Yellow 5 and Yellow 6 have been linked to contamination with the carcinogen benzidine, and Red 40 has been found to cause DNA damage.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Those companies make the same products for other countries that don't include those dyes. Why can't they give us those same products? It's all about profit.

How do you figure it gives them more profit? Why can't you just choose to eat foods that don't have them.

Many people don't know how harmful these dyes or the other 10,000 artificial chemical in our food are also bad for us. Should we just say screw those people if they aren't aware?

They're not actually harmful, but if you really believe that, then make it your mission to educate people about it. And another option for the government to do, instead of banning them, is to make people aware.

Are you suggesting that the government ban everything that's harmful, like alcohol, red meat, refined sugar, butter, etc.?

 

[NOLA Dude]

Perhaps that association dates way back to my childhood. I do know that efforts are deliberately made to retain color in meat for that purpose. But I'm getting the impression that you're in denial, or simply ignorant of how ubiquitous dyes are in our food and beverages. Without them every bottle of Gatorade would look the same.

I'm in denial or ignorant about how the food dyes are in a lot of things? That couldn't be further from the truth. I've talked about it at nauseum.

Personally, I don't care if they're removed from the food chain, because they are very rarely in anything I eat or drink. Certainly not in any quantity that can have a bad effect on me. If I ate a donut with green icing once every St. Patrick's Day, I don't think my body would notice. But I know the decorations on birthday cakes would all but disappear, and the colors in some ice cream, gelato and flavored ices, would certainly make a visual difference on display. Abolishing it will not have a small economic impact.

Okay but the people who are unaware how bad they are or poor people who don't have many options are out of luck and we should just say oh well?

Food color is also used extensively in dog foods, which is entirely for the people who buy it, because dogs are colorblind.

My dogs food doesn't have any food dyes in it.

 

[Noodlegawd]

A maga doesn't see the problem.
Oh my.....

Several synthetic food dyes have raised concerns about potential carcinogenicity. Red Dye No. 3 (Erythrosine) has been shown to cause cancer in animals, and the FDA banned its use in cosmetics and drugs but not food, until it recently banned its use in food as well. Other dyes like Yellow 5 and Yellow 6 have been linked to contamination with the carcinogen benzidine, and Red 40 has been found to cause DNA damage.

Then. Don't. Eat. It.

It hasn't actually been shown to cause cancer in animals in the amounts actually used in foods.

You know what does cause cancer when consumed by humans (not to mention all manner of other maladies)? Alcohol. Should the government ban that?

 

[BirdinHand]

I was asking why they are banned and not the source of the dye. They obviously banned them or required warning labels because they are shown to be harmful.

Because of a difference in the underlying philosophy and approach to how the government approaches law and regulation regarding food.

In the US, the presumption is that additives are allowed until proven to be harmful.
In the EU, for example, they take a precautionary approach where an additive can be banned until proven to be safe.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Kennedy to announce plan to remove artificial dyes from the nation’s food supply"
NBC News
April 21, 2025
By Berkeley Lovelace Jr.

Kennedy to announce plan to remove artificial dyes from food and beverages

The FDA has approved 36 color additives, including nine petroleum-based synthetic dyes used in foods and beverages.

www.nbcnews.com

Discussion: Why has it taken so long for the United States to remove artificial dyes from foods, especially foods that are popular among children?

democrats must be outraged.

Removing artificial dyes is racist and homophobic.

 

[NOLA Dude]

How do you figure it gives them more profit? Why can't you just choose to eat foods that don't have them.

They use them because it's cheaper to use the petroleum based artificial dyes than carrot or beet juice. That's why they use it.

They're not actually harmful, but if you really believe that, then make it your mission to educate people about it. And another option for the government to do, instead of banning them, is to make people aware.

How would you know they aren't harmful because the US doesn't require any safety testing before those artificial chemicals are put into our food?

Other countries require that safety testing before it can go in their food.

Are you suggesting that the government ban everything that's harmful, like alcohol, red meat, refined sugar, butter, etc.?

Nope and red meat is very good for you. We are talking about banning artificial chemicals that are known to be harmful and banned is most other countries. We aren't talking about banning foods.

 

[MamboDervish]

I was asking why they are banned and not the source of the dye. They obviously banned them or required warning labels because they are shown to be harmful.

What's your point? The Biden administration banned one of the red food dyes. Why did they do that?

You're being deliberately obtuse. That's a waste of energy with me.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why?

There we go, the partisan left knee jerks against anything the enemy of the party does.

democrats are such a clown show.

 

[NOLA Dude]

democrats must be outraged.

Removing artificial dyes is racist and homophobic.

The lefties are arguing to keep harmful artificial chemicals in our food just because Trump and RFK are involved. Crazy

 

[BirdinHand]

What about the people who aren't aware how bad they are or poor people who don't have many options?

Aldi - one of the cheapest grocery retailers - bans things such as Red Dye 40 in their store brand foods.

Go buy a box of their Fruit Rounds. Cheaper than your Fruit Loops and they are naturally flavored and colored.

Some of us have avoided crap in our foods for a long time and didn't need Big Daddy Government to ban anything in order to make healthier choices for ourselves and our families.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I am fine with the idea of nonfood chemicals being removed from food. Most of the time those chemicals are unlikely to cause harm, but its a good general rule and worth doing to inadvertently add chemicals that cause harm but are unknown to do so right now.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Well most of it likely isn't harmful. But of all the stuff worm-brain is doing, this is likely the least harmful.

You and your fellow leftists should protest. Get seditious Obama Judges to block this. Comrade Boasberg can state that the Constitution protects artificial dyes and coloring.

 

[NOLA Dude]

You're being deliberately obtuse. That's a waste of energy with me.

You were deflecting because you didn't want to answer a few simple questions and you still won't even comment on why these chemicals are banned in most countries or require a warning label.

 

[exoplanet]

Broken clocks like petroleum based artificial food dyes?

“Even a broken clock is right twice a day”

 

[snakestretcher]

Protein and fat are necessary for survival.

Really? How much fat? America already has an obesity epidemic. I wouldn't put much faith in their long-term survival from all the morbidities too much fat intake causes.

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[Noodlegawd]

They use them because it's cheaper to use the petroleum based artificial dyes than carrot or beet juice. That's why they use it.

How would you know they aren't harmful because the US doesn't require any safety testing before those artificial chemicals are put into our food?

Other countries require that safety testing before it can go in their food.

Nope and red meat is very good for you. We are talking about banning artificial chemicals that are known to be harmful and banned is most other countries. We aren't talking about banning foods.

We're talking about banning things that supposedly cause cancer. Food dyes that are currently used in the US have not been proven to cause cancer in humans. Alcohol and red meat have.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump is allowing all kinds of proven, verified chemicals to allowed in things like the air we breathe and the water we drink.

More interesting "facts" you just made up?

I mean, you hate Trump so he must be doing things you make up...

Also he is hell bent on allowing and even spurring on all kinds of global warming activities that are already having major effects on our food supply both in availability and cost.

Oh really? He is so powerful he can control the wearther.

Leftists sure are smart.

And yet we are supposed to ignore all of this and applaud their removing a few things from our food supply where there is only suspicion that they are harmful with no real proof. And less we forget poverty is still probably the number one reason people live lesser lives and die prematurely and we can all see that he's going in the wrong direction on this for sure.

No, you of the left need to make this a massive issue. Perhaps the Soros soldiers can burn boxes of Trix and scream that banning dyes is Nazism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

MAGA loves its Big Government.

I knew you could to it. Demand that artificial dyes have constitutional rights too...

As long as you're hating Trump, it doesn't matter what the subject is! Uber Alles democrat.