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Kennedy guts CDC's vaccine panel of independent experts

Conspiracy theory.


Nonsense. It points out potential problems that can be studied to see if there actually is a problem.


RFK is a nut case who says that there is no safe and effective vaccine.


Your conspiracy theories are not supported by actual evidence based studies. Vaccine efficacy and safety are supported by actual evidence.


Because you don’t know what the data means.



Currently

Studies on vaccines and other medications fail all the time. 90% of all clinical trials fail to be approved by the system. If the crazy conspiracy theories that you are repeating were correct, that CERTAINLY would not be the case.


Conspiracy theories.
You have been relegated to claiming everything is a conspiracy theory. I refuted what you posted and this is your comeback? Once again, you should quit while you are behind.
 
And Kennedy also said that "no one should take medical advice" from him.
You have trouble discussing things outside of talking points huh?

He's right. He's not a doctor or a scientist. Do you take medical advice from people who aren't a doctor or a scientist? You should listen to the doctors and scientists under him as HHS secretary.

8 of the last 10 heads of HHS didn't have medical degrees. Did you take medical advice from them?
 
You have been relegated to claiming everything is a conspiracy theory. I refuted what you posted and this is your comeback? Once again, you should quit while you are behind.
Your refutation wasn't backed by evidence. One person's conclusions cannot be taken seriously; you need multiple independent studies that reach similar conclusions. Just because someone has 1,000 references doesn't mean those references substantiate the same conclusions. Someone, as in these cases you provided as counterexamples, can use other people's research to reach an erroneous conclusion.

So yes, you're believing conspiracies. That's what unsubstantiated nonsense is called.
 
Your refutation wasn't backed by evidence. One person's conclusions cannot be taken seriously; you need multiple independent studies that reach similar conclusions. Just because someone has 1,000 references doesn't mean those references substantiate the same conclusions. Someone, as in these cases you provided as counterexamples, can use other people's research to reach an erroneous conclusion.

So yes, you're believing conspiracies. That's what unsubstantiated nonsense is called.
I've refuted many of your points and you had no substantive responses. Based on how often you've been wrong in this thread I don't know why you think I should use your criteria.
 
I've refuted many of your points and you had no substantive responses. Based on how often you've been wrong in this thread I don't know why you think I should use your criteria.
I've admitted my mistakes, once on a specific point, and once misunderstanding your request. I took the time to review your research on COVID-19 vaccines surrounding pregnacies and agreed it warrants warnings and further investigation. I’ve acknowledged when I was wrong and corrected my position once I understood you wanted long-term placebo studies for childhood vaccine scheduling. I’ve also explained why what you’re asking for isn’t feasible, yet you haven’t responded.

I’ve addressed your errors, and again, no reply. I take responsibility for my mistakes. Now, let’s see if you can do the same.
 
Haha. I easily showed how that group is funded by and a tool of big pharma and you moved to silliness. You should quit while you are behind.
Nonsense. Just because a group comprised of the majority of US pediatricians has a charity as part of their organization that the pharmaceutical companies donate trivial sums to does not mean that they are “a tool of big Pharma.”

Just another conspiracy theory.
 
You are flailing between your last 2 posts. I asked you to be specific because these are both true:

- they tested the covid vaccine for safety:


-Biden hid the myocarditis risk from the public for 4 months:

As I said, already covered. First, Biden was not involved. Second you don’t publish advice until you know what you are doing is correct.
 
You have been relegated to claiming everything is a conspiracy theory. I refuted what you posted and this is your comeback? Once again, you should quit while you are behind.
That’s because most of what you post is a conspiracy theory you got from X.

Again, 90% of all clinical trials fail to be approved by the system. If the crazy conspiracy theories that you are repeating were correct about the FDA and CDC being in the pockets of big Pharmaceutical companies, that CERTAINLY would not be the case.
 
Thing is COVID was only 99.8% survivable because of the vaccine.

Uh no, it was always 99.9% survivable - the non-a-vaccine had zero impact on that. In fact you're more likely to die from Covide if you DID have the not-a-vaccine.

Because of conspiracy theories run wild! See below.

Conspiracy theories like the covid not-a-vaccine keeps you from getting covid? That covid came from eating bats?

That kind of insane conspiracy theories?
 
Uh no, it was always 99.9% survivable - the non-a-vaccine had zero impact on that. In fact you're more likely to die from Covide if you DID have the not-a-vaccine.



Conspiracy theories like the covid not-a-vaccine keeps you from getting covid? That covid came from eating bats?

That kind of insane conspiracy theories?
So much misinformation in your post...

COVID-19’s survival rate varies by age and health status. You claim it was always 99.9%, but studies show the infection fatality rate ranged from 0.3% to 1% globally, with older adults facing much higher risks. Frontiers Study

Vaccination has significantly reduced severe cases and deaths. A study estimated vaccines saved over 20 million lives in 2021 alone. BMC Infectious Diseases Study

The claim that vaccinated individuals are more likely to die from COVID-19 contradicts extensive data showing "lower hospitalization and mortality rates" among those vaccinated. CDC Data
 
Uh no, it was always 99.9% survivable - the non-a-vaccine had zero impact on that. In fact you're more likely to die from Covide if you DID have the not-a-vaccine.
Wrong again. You still don’t understand the math. Even though the article you cited tried to explain it to you thusly:

During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population. In other words, if 100% of people in the U.S. were vaccinated, vaccinated people would represent 100% of COVID-19 deaths. Similarly, as the share of the population with a booster rose somewhat during 2022, the share of deaths among boosted people also rose. COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe illness and death, but they are not perfect, so deaths among vaccinated people will still occur.

In 2022 when the article that you cited but don’t seem to comprehend was published, this graph shows that if you were unvaccinated then you were 17 times more likely to die from Covid than if you were vaccinated and boosted.

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Conspiracy theories like the covid not-a-vaccine keeps you from getting covid? That covid came from eating bats?

That kind of insane conspiracy theories?
 
Show you work.
I believe in cutting spending. Just not in the drunken, lack of long-term planning slash 'n' dash method used by Mush, his DOGE turds & Trump.

You howled like a stuck pig over every cut proposed and made. You love big government.

You howled when the DNC embezzlement engine of USAID was cut and chanted all the party talking points

Why do you think it's effective to claim to be something you're not? Anyone who reads your posts sees that you're far left. Do you really think you fool anyone?

He's an enemy of every single American who believes in staying healthy and alive.

No hyperbole or demagoguery from the fringe left....
 
From the left? These lies are from Trump and his minions that the mindless drones of the left believe:

The 2020 election was stolen.

Climate change is a hoax.

Most illegal immigrants are dangerous criminals, only some are good people.

Tariffs on China are paid by China.

China operates the Panama canal.

The U.S. is the only country with birthright citizenship.

January 6 was a love fest.

EV’s are going to put our automakers out of business.

Trump won the 2024 election by a landslide.

Ukraine started the Russia/Ukraine war.

There’s no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective.

Vietnam charges a 90% tariff to the USA.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia has MS-13 tattooed on his knuckles.


Same for other periods. Your claim that the vaccine doesn’t work is nonsense.


Do you not read your post. They even explain the math that obviously flies right over your head:

During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population. In other words, if 100% of people in the U.S. were vaccinated, vaccinated people would represent 100% of COVID-19 deaths.




There is no correlation. Vaccines are not causing heart attacks.

So you lied about those who have not had the not-a-vaccine, but it's only because so many have had the not-a-vaccine..

Got it.

Say, I know thinking if forbidden to drones, but did it ever occur to you that if people still die from Covid after getting the not-a-vaccine that it doesn't actually work? Regardless of how much it helps Nancy Pelosi's portfolio?
 
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Not really. There are Kennedy clan members who don't think much of RFK Jr.


Leftists rush to defend fellow leftists...

This is the disadvantage the right has. The right is a collection of individuals with competing goals and ideas that often conflict and create chaos.

The left is a hive with a central hivemind. What one DP leftist thinks, all DP leftists think.

Oppose any leftist, and the hive will swarm to protect the drone.
 
So much misinformation in your post...

COVID-19’s survival rate varies by age and health status. You claim it was always 99.9%, but studies show the infection fatality rate ranged from 0.3% to 1% globally, with older adults facing much higher risks. Frontiers Study

Vaccination has significantly reduced severe cases and deaths. A study estimated vaccines saved over 20 million lives in 2021 alone. BMC Infectious Diseases Study

The claim that vaccinated individuals are more likely to die from COVID-19 contradicts extensive data showing "lower hospitalization and mortality rates" among those vaccinated. CDC Data

.03% fatality = 99.7% survivability.

So much spin to confirm what I posted.
 
.03% fatality = 99.7% survivability.

So much spin to confirm what I posted.
Cherry-picking one number while ignoring the larger context isn’t a solid argument. You’ve overlooked the differences in age-based fatality rates, the impact of underlying conditions, and the role of vaccination in reducing severe outcomes. Ignoring inconvenient data doesn’t make your claim more accurate.
 
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Cherry-picking one number while ignoring the larger context isn’t a solid argument. You’ve overlooked the differences in age-based fatality rates, the impact of underlying conditions, and the role of vaccination in reducing severe outcomes. Ignoring inconvenient data doesn’t make your claim more accurate.

The failed democrat party desperately needs the panic that the DNC propaganda corpse created in order to claw back power.

Only those with severely compromised immune systems and other comorbidity are are risk of death from the Wuhan Designer Virus®

China, with funding from Fauci and the NiH, engineered as virus that is insanely contagious. But has very low mortality rates. Since nearly everyone in the USA has already had Covid, they know that the hype fed to them is false.
 
So you lied about those who have not had the not-a-vaccine, but it's only because so many have had the not-a-vaccine..

Got it.

Say, I know thinking if forbidden to drones, but did it ever occur to you that if people still die from Covid after getting the not-a-vaccine that it doesn't actually work? Regardless of how much it helps Nancy Pelosi's portfolio?
You need to retake grade school math, if you ever had it.
 
Yes, ad hom will save you from the tangled nonsense you post.
So says the one that is so math deficient that they don’t realize it when they cite sources that refute the point they are trying to make.
 
Nonsense. Just because a group comprised of the majority of US pediatricians has a charity as part of their organization that the pharmaceutical companies donate trivial sums to does not mean that they are “a tool of big Pharma.”

Just another conspiracy theory.
A charity? 😆
 
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