Kavanaugh's True Colors

[it's just me]

Baloney! That's what a Democrat Senator had said - referring to his temperament!
If that's how shallow that Democrat can think - he doesn't deserve to sit as a senator! Lol.
I can't even say he applied any common sense in that remark!

I'll repeat my previous response.


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about his disposition to judge?

He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complainst about his temperament?

He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about him being biased?



You forget that he wasn't there in that senate room to judge!
He was there for the fight of his life - fighting for his name/reputation, family, legacy, all those years he'd spent to establish his career.

That wasn't a hearing! The Democrats already branded him GUILTY when they said they believe Ford. His rights has been trampled on national tv.

The same outrage a raped woman feels over being powerless to defend herself is as much the same as Kavanaugh felt at that moment - he was powerless to defend himself against this rabid group of Democrats who'd launched a campaign to DEMONIZE him! I emphatize with him in that situation.
Wouldn't you've cried in utter anger and utter frustration?


What's wrong with you people? You mock a man for crying - like as if it's not manly to shed any tears at all! For all your bleating about gender equality - you folks have miserably missed the mark.


I saw a HUMAN BEING in pain, being unfairly, thoroughly demolished, on that show!

The nastiest, most underhanded deceitful liars I have seen since Vietnam whining about "temperament".

 

[tosca1]

On conduct required for a SCOTUS judge, kavanaugh failed miserably. He's not above that of a partisan political operative. He doesn't even belong on any bench, anywhere.

One glaring eye-opener in that show for me:

there are a lot of Democrat Senators who.............. aren't bright.

 

[tosca1]

And you are the Arbiter of objectivity?

Don't make me laugh

:roll:


Look who's talking! Obviously, you're not!

You're simply repeating what that senseless Democrat senator said on tv!
And the funny part - you don't even recognize how senseless his statement was! :lol:


If this baffles you.....read my response to your post.

 

[code1211]

False, they stated they did not recall. That's not the same thing as "did not happen".

Moreover, they did NOT state it FBI or hearing under oath. We shall see what the FBI report brings forward.

Everyone of the witnesses say they did not witness it.

They said this under oath and under penalty of felony which means jail time.

Under oath is under oath. Swearing out an affidavit carries the same weight under law as testifying in person.

That weight applies to the testimony and to the witness.

Do you really not understand this or did you just not know that the witnesses were deposed and all of them said that the events were not witnessed.

Dr. Ford's testimony has been entirely impeached. Nothing she said has any substantiation whatever.

Disagree? Present the evidence.

 

[code1211]

No, they did not say it did not happen (under penalty of felony). What they actually said is that they did not "remember' anything like that happening. Big difference.

This enters into the area of the philosophy of existence, then.

If they did not see it and have no recollection of it, then, for them, it did not happen.

Dr. Ford said they witnessed events in question. They said they did not witness the events in question.

I was not called as a witness, but I also did not witness these events. Did you witness these events?

Our process of justice relies on many forms of corroboration of the charges brought by plaintiffs. Obviously, Dr. Ford has provided NONE of these.

WHY do you believe her?

 

[Thoreau72]

Nice speech. Too emotional though.

You are right that Kavanaugh wasn't acting like a judge though. He was acting like a man who was being accused of a crime for which no evidence was presented to prove his conduct. I know how I would react if I were in his place. I'd act the exact same way if I believed that I was innocent of the crime claimed. The reason that you see him as being "whiny sniffling privileged sense of entitlement" is twofold. You thought him guilty the moment he was accused. Your mind was already made up and as such anything that wasn't a full acceptance of the claim would have been seen as a lie, as male arrogance and sense of privilege. You said it yourself, you worship women. Anything, any perceived slight, against a woman is to be automatically despised and torn apart. Much like any other religious fanatic.

Tell me, why do you worship women? They are human. Just like you and I. They are not any more special. And you are wrong that women give us life, at least in the tone you used. They may carry babies in their womb, but without men they would not be able to carry those babies. We are EQUAL. Both are responsible and needed to bring life into the world. You cannot have one without the other. Setting them up on a pedestal like you have done is no better than what men did to themselves in our early history. Its unrealistic and causes exactly what has happened to Kavanaugh to happen. If you wanted justice you would be demanding proof of the accuser. Not demanding the accused prove a negative. And no, emotional pleas 3+ decades old is not proof.

I am no fan of Louis CK, but he managed to admit and speak the truth about his sexual/social errors.

Why doesn't Brett? Is he too small a man? Too wormy a man? Too much a coward?

Or just an Ivy League Elite frat bro born with a silver spoon in his mouth?

 

[Mithros]

:yawn:

From a movement that has explicitly applied a political litmus test and accelerated the politicization of the judiciary, I take complaints about the Very Idea that Judges Might Be Politically When Appointed By Republicans with a grain of salt roughly the size of Iowa.

There is a big difference between a conservative judge and a partisan one. It’s well within a presidents right to appoint someone with a judicial philosophy they agree with. It is quite another to appoint a judge with a judicial philosophy that conviently shifts depending on partisan desires.

A conservative judge will decide the legality of an executive order based on a consistent set of legal principles. A partisan will rule based on who issued it and defend their position with convient arguments. Kavanaugh is clearly the latter.

 

[Mithros]

Baloney! That's what a Democrat Senator had said - referring to his temperament!
If that's how shallow that Democrat can think - he doesn't deserve to sit as a senator! Lol.
I can't even say he applied any common sense in that remark!

I'll repeat my previous response. I'll even go farther with my questions!


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about his disposition to judge?


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about his temperament?


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about him being biased?



You forget that he wasn't there in that senate room to judge!

He was there for the fight of his life - fighting for his name/reputation, family, legacy, all those years he'd spent to establish his career.


That wasn't a hearing! The Democrats already branded him GUILTY when they said they believe Ford. His rights has been trampled on national tv.

Some Democrats even went to say they want him gone because he is a Trump appointee! They're wrecking him simply for that reason!

The Democrats doesn't care about Ford, either. She's just a piece of meat - a tool to be used!
All the Democrats did was pat her on the head, and say - good girl. good job.

Who outed her???

That's what I want to know! There should be an FBI investigation on that!



The same outrage a raped woman feels over being powerless to defend herself is as much the same as Kavanaugh felt at that moment - he was powerless to defend himself against this rabid group of Democrats who'd launched a campaign to DEMONIZE him! I emphatize with him in that situation.
Wouldn't you've cried in utter anger and utter frustration?


What's wrong with you people? You mock a man for crying - like as if it's not manly to shed any tears at all!
For all your bleating about gender equality - you folks have miserably missed the mark.


I saw a HUMAN BEING in pain, being unfairly, thoroughly demolished, on that show!

Actually yes. He was downgraded for a time by the ABA for lack of objectivity.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ns-years-ago-republicans-dismissed-those-too/

 

[cpwill]

There is a big difference between a conservative judge and a partisan one. It’s well within a presidents right to appoint someone with a judicial philosophy they agree with. It is quite another to appoint a judge with a judicial philosophy that conviently shifts depending on partisan desires.

A conservative judge will decide the legality of an executive order based on a consistent set of legal principles. A partisan will rule based on who issued it and defend their position with convient arguments. Kavanaugh is clearly the latter.

[emoji38] decades of evidence and the testimony from the left and the right disconfirm this thesis.

 

[cpwill]

Actually yes. He was downgraded for a time by the ABA for lack of objectivity.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ns-years-ago-republicans-dismissed-those-too/

Yeah, did you read this article, or just post it?

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[Kal'Stang]

I am no fan of Louis CK, but he managed to admit and speak the truth about his sexual/social errors.

Why doesn't Brett? Is he too small a man? Too wormy a man? Too much a coward?

Or just an Ivy League Elite frat bro born with a silver spoon in his mouth?

Prove that Kavanaugh has done what it is claimed he has done. You can't. All you have is a claim by Ms. Ford. Nothing else.

 

[Mithros]

Yeah, did you read this article, or just post it?

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I read several articles about this during his selection process. It’s not a secret that he’s a partisan judge with a less than perfect record. Wrote the post. Rereading it I felt that it wasn’t fair not to site at least something which confirmed his downgrade. So I threw one of the articles on.

Feel free to read earlier articles or articles written at the time. What exactly is your issue?

 

[Mithros]

Prove that Kavanaugh has done what it is claimed he has done. You can't. All you have is a claim by Ms. Ford. Nothing else.

• We have a July 1 party that matches the description of Dr Ford.
• It occurred at Timmy’s house, (his mother owned a small 2 story row house with a single upstairs bathroom and oddly positioned front door on the side of the house.
• Dr Ford was going out with (but not dating) Squi at the time. Kavanaugh spent most of that summer hanging out with squi.
• It is unlikely that Dr Ford would be able to recount details which match this closely were she not there.
• Kavanaugh was blatantly dishonest with regard to his drinking and high school antics.

I’d say that the preponderance of the evidence shows that the party happened, Kavanaugh was drunk, Dr Ford was there, and at the party Dr Ford suffered a traumatic experience.

 

[Mithros]

[emoji38] decades of evidence and the testimony from the left and the right disconfirm this thesis.

? Did you know that Kavanaugh dissents 3x more often from February to November of presidential election years? That’s a far bigger difference than other judges. Did you know that those dissents are primarily in issues touched on by presidential campaigns? Do you know that kavanaugh dissents more often and is dissented against more often than other judges? Do you know that Kavanaugh dissents with justices appointed by Democrats at a far higher rate than other justices appointed by Republicans.

Ie his partisanship is in the top 1%. As the gop becomes trumpified, expect kavanaugh to adjust his deeply held beliefs to match. This isn’t an Alito.

 

[Luckyone]

The truth tends to do that to folk like you.

Pictures of Ford smiling and comparing her look to someone else is not truthm and the fact that you put those pictures up simply says that you are trying to manipulate your opinion unto all of us. That is not a seeker of truth but simply a manipulator of it.

Sorry, but you have lost all credibility with me in trying to prove any of your opinions.

 

[Mithros]

What party? You mean that workout that's being touted as if it was a party?



Oh? Ms. Ford said definitively it happened at Timmy's house? Did someone else come along and say it happened there? Tell me, how many other houses like that are in that area?



Where'd you get this info from?



What details is that? That she was in a bedroom on a second story floor with a bathroom on the second story also? How many houses have similar layouts in that area?



How was he dishonest? He straight up said he drank in high school. Sometimes to excess, sometimes not.



Prove it.

Boofed? Ralfed. FFFFFourth, Devils Triangle, Renata Alumni, never blacking out or not remembering something that happened... all lies. I know you’re intellectually honest enough to admit that.

Also assuming the circled numbers on the calender meant kegs, he drank a ridiculous amount. (I say that with friends that were pretty much alcoholics. 100 kegs is 8400 12 oz beers. The anger about questioning his drinking, his red nose and checks, yellow almost gray teeth, what looks like broken capillaries on his face, poor impulse control.

Its hard to find, but watch the last round of questioning by Mitchell. She asks him about the July 1 entry. His answers take her aback to the point where she has to warn him that he’s subject to prosecution. After this the GOP pulled her and Lindsay had his moment.

 

[Kal'Stang]

We have a July 1 party that matches the description of Dr Ford.

What party? You mean that workout that's being touted as if it was a party?

It occurred at Timmy’s house, (his mother owned a small 2 story row house with a single upstairs bathroom and oddly positioned front door on the side of the house.

Oh? Ms. Ford said definitively it happened at Timmy's house? Did someone else come along and say it happened there? Tell me, how many other houses like that are in that area?

Oh wait...no, that was a Senator making the claim with absolutely NO proof what so ever.

Dr Ford was going out with (but not dating) Squi at the time. Kavanaugh spent most of that summer hanging out with squi.

Where'd you get this info from? Surely she would have remembered her friend named squi being there.

It is unlikely that Dr Ford would be able to recount details which match this closely were she not there.

What details is that? That she was in a bedroom on a second story floor with a bathroom on the second story also? How many houses have similar layouts in that area?

Kavanaugh was blatantly dishonest with regard to his drinking and high school antics.

How was he dishonest? He straight up said he drank in high school. Sometimes to excess, sometimes not.

I’d say that the preponderance of the evidence shows that the party happened, Kavanaugh was drunk, Dr Ford was there, and at the party Dr Ford suffered a traumatic experience.

Prove it.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Boofed? Ralfed. FFFFFourth, Devils Triangle, Renata Alumni, never blacking out or not remembering something that happened... all lies. I know you’re intellectually honest enough to admit that.

Also assuming the circled numbers on the calender meant kegs, he drank a ridiculous amount. (I say that with friends that were pretty much alcoholics. 100 kegs is 8400 12 oz beers. The anger about questioning his drinking, his red nose and checks, yellow almost gray teeth, what looks like broken capillaries on his face, poor impulse control.

Its hard to find, but watch the last round of questioning by Mitchell. She asks him about the July 1 entry. His answers take her aback to the point where she has to warn him that he’s subject to prosecution. After this the GOP pulled her and Lindsay had his moment.

Something was going on with that other post so re-did it. It was weird.

In anycase....

Prove that they're lies.
You sure are making a lot of assumptions.
I watched the whole ****show of a hearing.

 

[Luckyone]

This enters into the area of the philosophy of existence, then.

If they did not see it and have no recollection of it, then, for them, it did not happen.

Dr. Ford said they witnessed events in question. They said they did not witness the events in question.

I was not called as a witness, but I also did not witness these events. Did you witness these events?

Our process of justice relies on many forms of corroboration of the charges brought by plaintiffs. Obviously, Dr. Ford has provided NONE of these.

WHY do you believe her?

First of all, the main person to ask is Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge and he gave his statement through a lawyer, meaning that his statement was not made by him under Penalty of Law. In addition, "not remembering" is an easy way to bypass the law since no one can ever prove that you lied regarding remembering or not.

As far as why I believe her!

I am a good judge of personality and character due to the fact that I have been a salesman all my life and have earned a good income doing so, meaning that my job has been in "reading" people. In addition, I am a giver and not a taker, meaning that I am always looking out for the truth rather than trying to lie to myself.

Dr. Ford was 100% convincing and adding to that, she has absolutely nothing to gain by coming out and saying what she did and everything to lose. Proof of that is that she has already been accosted my many and even under threat of life. She has had to move and if you can give me one single benefit that she will receive from all of this, I would be stunned. In addition, before any of this was current due to Kavanaugh's nomination, she had already told her husband 8 years ago and her therapist 6 years ago, way before Kavanaugh was up for consideration to the Supreme Court. Simply stated, what were her reasons for telling her husband and her therapist a lie years ago?

Secondly, in comparing her testimony and Kavanaugh's, Kavanaugh came through as a person with a temper (something he had not shown before), making him the kind of person capable of doing this in his youth. Very simply stated, when a big problem was facing him, he returned to the person he really is and not the kind of person he has tried to show he is by taking this road to being a Federal Judge and now his main objective in life, a Supreme Court Judge. When big problems occur, your true self usually comes out. I do not want that kind of person on the Supreme Court because there it is all about big problems. I do not want to doubt the judgment of the people making those decisions. I now doubt Kavanaugh's ability and not because of what Dr. Ford said but how Kavanaugh reacted to it.

In my life, I have seen many people fool other people totally so I know it can be done. Yes, the burden of proof is usually in the shoulders of the accuser and so far her story has not yet been "proven" but his actions speak loudly as to who he truly is, more so what he has done over the past 30 years. A lot of people will do "anything" to achieve their goals no matter whether it is right or now and I do believe Kavanaugh is one of those. I do not want such a person ruling on things that could affect my life and those of my loved ones as well as the citizens of the U.S. which I love simply because we are all Americans.

Does that answer your question?

 

[Luckyone]

What party? You mean that workout that's being touted as if it was a party?



Oh? Ms. Ford said definitively it happened at Timmy's house? Did someone else come along and say it happened there? Tell me, how many other houses like that are in that area?

Oh wait...no, that was a Senator making the claim with absolutely NO proof what so ever.



Where'd you get this info from? Surely she would have remembered her friend named squi being there.



What details is that? That she was in a bedroom on a second story floor with a bathroom on the second story also? How many houses have similar layouts in that area?



How was he dishonest? He straight up said he drank in high school. Sometimes to excess, sometimes not.



Prove it.

Kal, you are following a very tiring pattern of defending people that have shown emotional weaknesses. Do you not realize that anything that a person decides he wants to do can be accomplished if they have the brains and desire to do so? This is not about "proof" but about looking at one person (Ford) and trying to see what she might be trying to accomplish for herself and the other person (Kavanaugh) trying to accomplish his life-long goal of becoming a Supreme Court Judge. Who has something to gain? Certainly not Ford given there is absolutely nothing she has to gain. Kavanaugh, has all to gain (accomplishing his goal) and more likely to lie to get it than Ford lying to accomplish what?

 

[Mithros]

Something was going on with that other post so re-did it. It was weird.

In anycase....

Prove that they're lies.
You sure are making a lot of assumptions.
I watched the whole ****show of a hearing.

Go to Timmy’s for skis? Doesn’t sound like a workout.

The Democrats can be scheming political assholes AND Kavanaugh can be an entitled lying drunken prick that has no basis being a judge. It’s not a binary choice.

 

[OscarLevant]

Well...to be blunt? You...since you asked. You are an idiot if you think people that have been falsely accused of rape and had a non stop smear campaign against them and their family might not appropriately show a sense of anger in their response.

Set aside the accusations, what is left? His conduct. What was his conduct? It was that of a sniveling entitled whiny petty partisan hack politician.


Perhaps Kavanaugh could run for Congress, but apply for the Supreme Court?

Just on his conduct alone, thumbs way way way down.

 

[OscarLevant]

Oscar Levant - you are perpetrating L'Affaire Dreyfus all over again!

J'Accuse!

I doubt this is a matter of false accusations. However,...

Set aside the accusations, on his petty whining sniveling entitled conspiracy riddled partisan petty conduct alone, conduct exhibited far below the kind of conduct we should expect of a SCOTUS judge, thumbs down. Way down.

 

[OscarLevant]

Baloney! That's what a Democrat Senator had said - referring to his temperament!
If that's how shallow that Democrat can think - he doesn't deserve to sit as a senator! Lol.
I can't even say he applied any common sense in that remark!

I'll repeat my previous response. I'll even go farther with my questions!


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about his disposition to judge?


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about his temperament?


He's been a judge for 12 years - were there any complaints about him being biased?



You forget that he wasn't there in that senate room to judge!

He was there for the fight of his life - fighting for his name/reputation, family, legacy, all those years he'd spent to establish his career.


That wasn't a hearing! The Democrats already branded him GUILTY when they said they believe Ford. His rights has been trampled on national tv.

Some Democrats even went to say they want him gone because he is a Trump appointee! They're wrecking him simply for that reason!

The Democrats doesn't care about Ford, either. She's just a piece of meat - a tool to be used!
All the Democrats did was pat her on the head, and say - good girl. good job.

Who outed her???

That's what I want to know! There should be an FBI investigation on that!



The same outrage a raped woman feels over being powerless to defend herself is as much the same as Kavanaugh felt at that moment - he was powerless to defend himself against this rabid group of Democrats who'd launched a campaign to DEMONIZE him! I emphatize with him in that situation.
Wouldn't you've cried in utter anger and utter frustration?


What's wrong with you people? You mock a man for crying - like as if it's not manly to shed any tears at all!
For all your bleating about gender equality - you folks have miserably missed the mark.


I saw a HUMAN BEING in pain, being unfairly, thoroughly demolished, on that show!

Grade AAA horse manure.

I would expect someone applying for fork lift driver to come humanly unglued, but not someone applying for a job on the Supreme Court, no matter what the accusations were. Justice Thomas expressed a modicum of anger, but he sure as hell didn't sink to the level that Kavanaugh did.

Thumbs down and I stand by my post. I'm not the only one questioning his "judicial temperament".

It is not for you to assert if he was "unfairly" accused, let the FBI determine that. But, set aside accusations, his conduct alone disqualifies him for a life time appointment on a job whose rulings will affect Americans for decades to come.

Sorry. Forklift driver Si, SCOTUS, no.

 

[OscarLevant]

One glaring eye-opener in that show for me:

there are a lot of Democrat Senators who.............. aren't bright.

That's funny, I was thinking that the depth of Republican stupidity is known to the nation to everyone but republicans.


Repubs, nor you, cannot see how the world sees you. Tsk tsk.