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Karen Read Trial - Take 2

The foreman of the jury gave an interview. Brennan also gave an interview but it's just complaints about not getting justice blah blah.

8 minutes (shows Brennan statement too, juror interview starts 2:28)


Talks about rabbit holes the jury was led down but they just had to look at all the evidence. Doesn't believe she hit O'Keefe with her car at all, with the evidence that was presented.
 
ASHES said:
The foreman of the jury gave an interview. Brennan also gave an interview but it's just complaints about not getting justice blah blah.

8 minutes (shows Brennan statement too, juror interview starts 2:28)


Talks about rabbit holes the jury was led down but they just had to look at all the evidence. Doesn't believe she hit O'Keefe with her car at all, with the evidence that was presented.
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We like this unnamed Jury Foreman. All Grins 😀

When asked by Craig Melvin who: (1) he thought killed O’Keefe and (2) if he considered Read innocent? Jury Foreman answered (1) not his job to know or to speculate and (2) declared Read innocent based on all the evidence presented. He definitely did not think Read’s vehicle killed O’Keefe or ever impacted him (even in a minimally glancing way) after she dropped him off.

Bully for the Jury!
 

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Jackson had some words for Brennan about the statement he gave. He doesn't like the implications he's making about the jurors, or the continued implications still that Read was somehow involved in the death.

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Trippy Trekker said:
We like this unnamed Jury Foreman. All Grins 😀

When asked by Craig Melvin who: (1) he thought killed O’Keefe and (2) if he considered Read innocent? Jury Foreman answered (1) not his job to know or to speculate and (2) declared Read innocent based on all the evidence presented. He definitely did not think Read’s vehicle killed O’Keefe or ever impacted him (even in a minimally glancing way) after she dropped him off.

Bully for the Jury!
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The jury foreman sounds like he has an IQ of about 88.
 
It took you over a week to show your face and come back blaming the jury. LMAO
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Yeah, right! Dumb jury chose a dumb guy as foreman.

More like, you don’t know how to lose with grace.
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Multiple jurors coming back with she was actually innocent, something happened to him in the house, and he thinks that the civil suit has any merit. Guffaw.
 
Here's an up to date review of the jurors statements from Emily D Baker. We've heard from 5 jurors now, 1, 4, 11, 12 and anonymous. All the statements/interviews are covered here except 4, his interview with TMZ is on the previous page of this thread.

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daeler said:
I think you will find the same issue in the civil suit. There is no evidence that he was hit buy her vehicle. On top of that issue the defense is given way more leniency in how to ask questions and how to present evidence to the contrary.
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Also the jurors saying she was factually innocent. Someone in the house did it. There's no liability for Read or the Waterfall with no collision. No way they can prove a collision beyond a proponderance of the evidence with the 4 medical doctors that said dog bite possible or likely, no evidence/missing evidence of car collision. It's an absolute fantasy that any civil lawsuit from the O'Keefe family against Read or the Waterfall is going anywhere at this point. Who are they going to hire, Aperture?
 
gboisjo said:
The jury foreman sounds like he has an IQ of about 88.
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This seems like a poor post. Yes the guy had some issues in talking. What does that have to do with anything? also consider that the average IQ in the US is only around 95 or so.
 
daeler said:
This seems like a poor post. Yes the guy had some issues in talking. What does that have to do with anything? also consider that the average IQ in the US is only around 95 or so.
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Trippy Trekker said:
Yeah, right! Dumb jury chose a dumb guy as foreman.

More like, you don’t know how to lose with grace.
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This juror called him out.

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I will forever remember how this case morphed into a conspiracy driven spectacle. I wasn't surprised to learn, the conspiracy mindset is on the rise.

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gboisjo said:
I will forever remember how this case morphed into a conspiracy driven spectacle. I wasn't surprised to learn, the conspiracy mindset is on the rise.

journals.plos.org

Have beliefs in conspiracy theories increased over time?

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The conspiracy here is kind of backed up. There was 0 evidence that Karen Read's SUV hit O'Keefe. The tail light that was fine when getting loaded on the tow truck but was broken at the sally port.
 
Funny Aperture thing happened just recently, and I've been checking since the trial ended. First, they updated Welcher's photo, I guess I hey heard the comments about catfishing. And they removed Burgess from the website completely, I expect probably because he doesn't work there anymore.

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daeler said:
This seems like a poor post. Yes the guy had some issues in talking. What does that have to do with anything? also consider that the average IQ in the US is only around 95 or so.
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What I meant to say was 78.
 
gboisjo said:
I will forever remember how this case morphed into a conspiracy driven spectacle. I wasn't surprised to learn, the conspiracy mindset is on the rise.

journals.plos.org

Have beliefs in conspiracy theories increased over time?

The public is convinced that beliefs in conspiracy theories are increasing, and many scholars, journalists, and policymakers agree. Given the associations between conspiracy theories and many non-normative tendencies, lawmakers have called for policies to address these increases. However, little...
journals.plos.org journals.plos.org

www.apa.org

Why some people are willing to believe conspiracy theories

People can be prone to believe in conspiracy theories due to a combination of personality traits and motivations, including relying strongly on their intuition, feeling a sense of antagonism and superiority toward others, and perceiving threats in their environment.
www.apa.org www.apa.org
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daeler said:
The conspiracy here is kind of backed up. There was 0 evidence that Karen Read's SUV hit O'Keefe. The tail light that was fine when getting loaded on the tow truck but was broken at the sally port.
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That at least 15 people, some of which didn't even know Read would come together and conspire to frame her is a joke. The prosecution blew the case by overcharging. Nothing will convince me otherwise. She got away it. There's all kind of ways to read the evidence, depending on who you believe.
 
gboisjo said:
That at least 15 people, some of which didn't even know Read would come together and conspire to frame her is a joke. The prosecution blew the case by overcharging. Nothing will convince me otherwise. She got away it. There's all kind of ways to read the evidence, depending on who you believe.
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Sore loser.
 
gboisjo said:
That at least 15 people, some of which didn't even know Read would come together and conspire to frame her is a joke. The prosecution blew the case by overcharging. Nothing will convince me otherwise. She got away it. There's all kind of ways to read the evidence, depending on who you believe.
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very over charged, they couldn't even prove her car hit him. as a Matter of fact there was more evidence that the SUV did not hit him than any that it did.
 
daeler said:
very over charged, they couldn't even prove her car hit him. as a Matter of fact there was more evidence that the SUV did not hit him than any that it did.
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We are so far beyond that argument it isn't even funny.
 
daeler said:
depends on if the civil trial gets dismissed.
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It will. It has nothing. Even Jennifer McCabe testified Read didn't appear intoxicated. Nobody said she did. With that, that's the bar off the hook, and as for the issue of the collision, Aperture vs ARCCA and their findings would be an even bigger blowout than the criminal trial. Not like anyone can call Burgess or rely on his data. Who else will put their reputation out against ARCCA for a sure loser case?
 
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