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Proving that one is a citizen of Kansas could be somewhat embarrassing.
Get ready for long slow voter lines.
We had our first TX, show your proof of citizenship last election. I had to stand in a very slow moving line for an hour and a half.
Reap what you sow.
ID is required for loans.
There is nothing wrong with having to prove your a citizen and who you are to vote.
Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mr5t8K-uvQ
Damnit :doh This is going to open the door for voter suppression. Here in KS we have over 15,000 people having their right to vote held up by the Secretary of State now this is just going to spread. Essentially its trying to solve a problem, where there is no problem. Its being used as a political tool by the GOP.
I have never quite understand why it's okay for the government to force people to provide an ID when buying alcohol, buying cigarettes, buying medical marijuana, enrolling your children in public school, or buying over the counter medication but it's not okay to require an ID to vote.
Loans are not guaranteed in the Constitution.
Yes, we have to show IDs for lucre based transactions. Is that what you want for the Socialism of our from of democracy?
Not making the connection to showing an id to vote and Socialism.
Then why have people register to vote. Just open the polls and let anyone vote.:mrgreen:
Wouldn't the fact you note there are over 15,000 questioned registrations just in Kansas indicate that there actually is a problem? I can't imagine that it would be terribly hard to prove you're a citizen unless A) you're not a citizen or B) you're too lazy to acquire the proof if you don't already have it, in which case you're probably too lazy to know what you're voting for or about and simply being led to the polls by those who want to use your vote.
Seems to me a photo id and a socialist security number would get someone registered and a photo id and registration card would be enough to prove that registered voters vote. They are low standards and anyone who cashes a check, or drives, or flies, or buys beer or applies for a job or government assistance can meet those minimum requirements.Well, now what's proof of citizenship? You can have a driver license or photo ID without being a citizen.
Do I need to carry a copy of a birth certificate in my pocket too? How will they know it's a true copy and not a doctored pdf (as was claimed about Obama's)? Proof of citizenship is a big step up from voter ID. Who determines valid proof of citizenship?
OMIGOSH!!!! Citizens have to have an ID card to vote (and buy cigarettes, alcohol, cash a check, use a credit card, fly on a commercial airline, sign up for available community services, etc). OH THE ****ING HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never quite understand why it's okay for the government to force people to provide an ID when buying alcohol, buying cigarettes, buying medical marijuana, enrolling your children in public school, or buying over the counter medication but it's not okay to require an ID to vote.
Democracy is a form of Socialism, not for-profit Capitalism, ostensibly, in our republic.
:agree: If those 15,000 registrations are dealt with in a timely manner, and no one legally allowed to vote is prevented from doing so, then what's the problem? There was a reason that those 15,000 people were targeted for questioning, and if they're legal, no problem. If not, they don't get to vote. The rules have to apply the same for everyone. That's not voter suppression - it's fairness.
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:
Because voting is the singular fundamental right in any form of democracy, and buying alcohol is not. Any measure to make voting harder should be met with extreme skepticism and scrutiny.
When you do this with voter ID laws, you start to see the real motivation.
Because voting is the singular fundamental right in any form of democracy, and buying alcohol is not. Any measure to make voting harder should be met with extreme skepticism and scrutiny.
When you do this with voter ID laws, you start to see the real motivation.
Democracy is how we vote. Socialism is about the ownership of some of the means of production. I think you should use a dictionary prior to posting.
The fact that voting is more important than buying beer is good reason that the regulations that protect voting from fraud and make it honest be set at a higher standard yet available to all with minimum effort. A picture id and a social security number is not too much to ask.
Because voting is the singular fundamental right in any form of democracy, and buying alcohol is not. Any measure to make voting harder should be met with extreme skepticism and scrutiny.
When you do this with voter ID laws, you start to see the real motivation.
Seems to me a photo id and a socialist security number would get someone registered and a photo id and registration card would be enough to prove that registered voters vote. They are low standards and anyone who cashes a check, or drives, or flies, or buys beer or applies for a job or government assistance can meet those minimum requirements.
When are the several States going to issue driver's licenses or ID cards for free?
When are the several States going to issue driver's licenses or ID cards for free?
driving is privilege not a right.
to offset the cost of issuing license, fees are charged....or would you prefer to have citizens taxes go up to pay those cost.
:lamoYes, for the sake of Capitalism and lucre.
:lamo
Call it a compassionate act. They just want to make sure everyone that is entitled to vote has an ID card which will enable those same individuals to access available government services.
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