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Kamala Harris was not appointed as the "border czar"

Hypothetical said:
She was slated by the administration to take care of it, to me that is being in control of the task, and she is culpable for the failure.
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She was assigned a piece of the immigration and border issue....NOTHING MORE.
Hypothetical said:
regardless of what she was called, she failed at the border task she was given. Revisionism will not change this.
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She had no staff at the time and the Biden staff did not help her assemble one. One of these days Americans will understand that while Presidents and VP's have a great deal or power, they are basically without even rudimentary functionality without STAFF. How do you think Trump spent his terms mainly riding around on golf carts, filling in his scorecard before taking a shot and assigning himself as club champion by virtue of owning the golf clubs where he played.
 
hooligan said:
What specific things could Harris have done, on her own, to "take care of" border security? She can't pass legislation, she can't write EOs. What would you have done?
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oh lets see, she could have visited a LOT sooner than she did, seen what the issue was, reported back to Biden and asked to get together a commission in the administration to take care of it. Didn;t do ANY of that.

OR any number of things. She has plenty of power if the President approves of it.

Why would The administration ask her to take care of it if they did not have a way for her to do so?
 
jnug said:
She was assigned a piece of the immigration and border issue....NOTHING MORE.

She had no staff at the time and the Biden staff did not help her assemble one. One of these days Americans will understand that while Presidents and VP's have a great deal or power, they are basically without even rudimentary functionality without STAFF. How do you think Trump spent his terms mainly riding around on golf carts, filling in his scorecard before taking a shot and assigning himself as club champion by virtue of owning the golf clubs where he played.
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I DOn't believe it for a minute... if she is that helpless and non self starting, she is not a good candidate for president.

how about we stop with the false apologetics?
 
Hypothetical said:
oh lets see, she could have visited a LOT sooner than she did, seen what the issue was, reported back to Biden and asked to get together a commission in the administration to take care of it. Didn;t do ANY of that.
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Outside of her assignment
Hypothetical said:
OR any number of things. She has plenty of power if the President approves of it.
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She had a very defined task and no staff with which to accomplish it
Hypothetical said:
Why would The administration ask her to take care of it if they did not have a way for her to do so?
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There is no such thing as a perfect administration. There are only degrees of imperfection for which Donald Trump's administration is a good example of how imperfect it can actually get.
 
jnug said:
Outside of her assignment

She had a very defined task and no staff with which to accomplish it

There is no such thing as a perfect administration. There are only degrees of imperfection for which Donald Trump's administration is a good example how bad it can actually get.
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LOL what a joke this is. It's not Trumps administration failing, it is Biden/Harris. get it straight. it WAS her assignment. she did nothing.

everyone saw this.

the "piece" she was given , according to the media was "

'stemming the migration' on southern border"​


that is a pretty DAMN big piece.
 
Hypothetical said:
oh lets see, she could have visited a LOT sooner than she did, seen what the issue was, reported back to Biden and asked to get together a commission in the administration to take care of it. Didn;t do ANY of that.

OR any number of things. She has plenty of power if the President approves of it.

Why would The administration ask her to take care of it if they did not have a way for her to do so?
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What is the evidence that the administration wasn't aware of what the issues were at the border from a security perspective?
 
hooligan said:
What specific things could Harris have done, on her own, to "take care of" border security? She can't pass legislation, she can't write EOs. What would you have done?
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What we think doesn't matter. It's what Harris thought she could do, and she publicly declared that illegal migrants would be turned away at the border:

www.bbc.com

Kamala Harris tells Guatemala migrants: 'Do not come to US'

The US vice-president uses her first official foreign visit to try to tackle the migrant crisis.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Border enforcement is with in the authority of the Executive branch. Did she and her team accomplish that?
 
hooligan said:
What is the evidence that the administration wasn't aware of what the issues were at the border from a security perspective?
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they gave her the job to stem the tide of illegal immigration. they were aware of it.... after they saw their polling drop. She failed to do anything worthwhile.
 
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Why it matters: The number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border has reached crisis levels. Harris, appointed by Biden as border czar, said she would be looking at the "root causes" that drive migration.
 
Plasmaball said:
Don't lawyer me.
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I'll lawyer you if I please. But at this point, I'm not. I'm asking you a simple, direct question. Did President Biden assign Vice President Harris the task of stemming illegal migration across our southern border?

If you felt confident in your argument, you would not be afraid of answering this question. Let's see what you do next.
 
But it really doesn't matter what you want her title to be, she failed in the role.
 
This is not going to stick as an issue. 2 reasons:
Trump blocked the immigration bill to save his campaign instead of seeking a solution. It's not just that he blocked it, it's that he refused to contribute.

2. Harris is running against trump.
NatMorton said:
We're not discussing Trump. Please try to focus.
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soap box said:
This is not going to stick as an issue. 2 reasons:
Trump blocked the immigration bill to save his campaign instead of seeking a solution. It's not that he blocked it, it's that he refused to contribute.

2. Harris is running against trump.
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That's possible, but again, we're talking about Harris's record on immigration, not Trump's.
 
Hypothetical said:
LOL what a joke this is. It's not Trumps administration failing, it is Biden/Harris. get it straight. it WAS her assignment. she did nothing.

everyone saw this.

the "piece" she was given , according to the media was "

'stemming the migration' on southern border"​

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Cherry picking is simply an ugly way to try to make an argument
Hypothetical said:
that is a pretty DAMN big piece.
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I could care less what the national news media reports. They have gone entirely off the deep end and have been off the deep end since RATINGS and SUBSCRIPTIONS have become not only important to them but the only things they care about. You have seen enough of my posts to know this is not a newfangled opinion of mine. I started with laughing at the absurdity of current talking head Opinion and editorializing and based on how REPORTING is being done no longer have any confidence in REPORTING either.
 
Dans La Lune said:
If every conservative in America were replaced by an illegal immigrant, the country would be far safer, and democracy would be in far better shape. Just putting that out there.
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You should take thst back because it's a dumb shit thing to say.

Not all Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives are Trumpers.
 
jnug said:
Cherry picking is simply an ugly way to try to make an argument

I could care less what the national news media reports. They have gone entirely off the deep end and have been off the deep end since RATINGS and SUBSCRIPTIONS have become not only important to them but the only things they care about. You have seen enough of my posts to know this is not a newfangled opinion of mine. I started with laughing at the absurdity of current talking head Opinion and editorializing and based on how REPORTING is being done no longer have any confidence in REPORTING either.
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As you so pointed out to me, I don't care what you don't care about, the truth is the truth and reality is reality.

I am relaying information based in both of those things.
 
NatMorton said:
That's possible, but again, we're talking about Harris's record on immigration, not Trump's.
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And they're the candidates. It is valid to explain the motivation behind this issue. Trump wanted a campaign issue more than he wanted a solution.

Did Harris have authorization to change laws or policies?
 
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