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Kamala Harris Now Favorite To Win Election for First Time

Anthony60 said:
Has anybody found the 15-20 million or so votes that just appeared, out of no where, in 2020? They were gone from this election and were never in the 2016 election.
Strange, how they just showed up, with mail in ballots, almost literally overnight, in 2020, just when the Democrats needed them. And then, poof! They just disappeared!
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I would love to see some explanation for this as well.
 
Lord of Planar said:
That is a very highly statistical improbability for that not to have been mass cheating. Biden won the Powerball.
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The last 20 years the total votes cast for President was btwn 120-130 million except 2020 it was 155 million. WTF?
 
BogeyGolf said:
The last 20 years the total votes cast for President was btwn 120-130 million except 2020 it was 155 million. WTF?
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Yep.

And they hounded Trump, probably afraid he would find the cheating they were able to do. Notice this year, all the ballot security is much tighter. Mo way to do mass ballot inductions this time.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yep.

And they hounded Trump, probably afraid he would find the cheating they were able to do. Notice this year, all the ballot security is much tighter. Mo way to do mass ballot inductions this time.
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The only reason I was uncertain about Trump winning was because of all the votes that came in, out of nowhere, in 2020. Otherwise, it looked like a shoe-in. I also remember thinking that Obama was going to lose in 2012, he was just so terrible that there was no way he could win. But he won easily. How?

Then, in 2020, a lot of the hidden goings on of the election came to light. Trump was sailing to victory, riding on the wave of a great turnaround for the country. But, overnight, water leaks, boxes of votes coming in, a tractor trailer of ballots brought to PA, people filling drop boxes, etc... A lot that they couldn't keep under wraps. I think they knew they would lose, and decided to do what they had to do, and they would just have to explain away anything that came up. Once they were in control, that was easy. If they still lost, no one would waste their time on it.

They just couldn't do it this time, the election was being watched. The margin was to big.
 
Anthony60 said:
The only reason I was uncertain about Trump winning was because of all the votes that came in, out of nowhere, in 2020. Otherwise, it looked like a shoe-in. I also remember thinking that Obama was going to lose in 2012, he was just so terrible that there was no way he could win. But he won easily. How?
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I understand. I felt the same way. I knew greater efforts would be taken to stop the cheating, so i was happy about that. I was just unsure they could stop it this well.
Anthony60 said:
Then, in 2020, a lot of the hidden goings on of the election came to light. Trump was sailing to victory, riding on the wave of a great turnaround for the country. But, overnight, water leaks, boxes of votes coming in, a tractor trailer of ballots brought to PA, people filling drop boxes, etc... A lot that they couldn't keep under wraps. I think they knew they would lose, and decided to do what they had to do, and they would just have to explain away anything that came up. Once they were in control, that was easy. If they still lost, no one would waste their time on it.

They just couldn't do it this time, the election was being watched. The margin was to big.
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I know.
 
Anthony60 said:
The only reason I was uncertain about Trump winning was because of all the votes that came in, out of nowhere, in 2020. Otherwise, it looked like a shoe-in. I also remember thinking that Obama was going to lose in 2012, he was just so terrible that there was no way he could win. But he won easily. How?

Then, in 2020, a lot of the hidden goings on of the election came to light. Trump was sailing to victory, riding on the wave of a great turnaround for the country. But, overnight, water leaks, boxes of votes coming in, a tractor trailer of ballots brought to PA, people filling drop boxes, etc... A lot that they couldn't keep under wraps. I think they knew they would lose, and decided to do what they had to do, and they would just have to explain away anything that came up. Once they were in control, that was easy. If they still lost, no one would waste their time on it.

They just couldn't do it this time, the election was being watched. The margin was to big.
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Early on when it began to look like a Trump landslide from early vote numbers that probability prevented the cheaters from resuming their fraudulent behavior as they did in 2020 because they realized there will be consequences this time.
 
slick said:
Early on when it began to look like a Trump landslide from early vote numbers that probability prevented the cheaters from resuming their fraudulent behavior as they did in 2020 because they realized there will be consequences this time.
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I think that in 2020, with all the drop boxes, they realized that they could put in as many votes as they needed. At some point, they figured out that they needed to put in way more than they did. So, overnight, Biden was all of a sudden getting upwards of 90% of the votes, in an election that he was losing. They knew it was impossible to get caught, so they didn't care, they were going to put in enough to win.
 
Anthony60 said:
I think that in 2020, with all the drop boxes, they realized that they could put in as many votes as they needed. At some point, they figured out that they needed to put in way more than they did. So, overnight, Biden was all of a sudden getting upwards of 90% of the votes, in an election that he was losing. They knew it was impossible to get caught, so they didn't care, they were going to put in enough to win.
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None of that happened.

Show your work.
 
Anthony60 said:
LOL. Where did all the votes go from 2020?
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All what votes? Share your numbers, please.

All the accommodations that were made for absentee/mail-in voting in 2020 were not present in 2024. When you make it easier for people to vote - more people vote.
 
hooligan said:
All what votes? Share your numbers, please.

All the accommodations that were made for absentee/mail-in voting in 2020 were not present in 2024. When you make it easier for people to vote - more people vote.
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Of course, that's a load of crap. Very easy to vote these days, many States changed laws.
 
Anthony60 said:
Of course, that's a load of crap. Very easy to vote these days, many States changed laws.
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It's not a load of crap, though.

Then I ask again - share your numbers, detail which states made it just as easy to vote in 2024 as it was in 2020.

Where did all what votes go? We're at 146.1M votes between Harris and Trump - and still counting.
 
hooligan said:
It's not a load of crap, though.

Then I ask again - share your numbers, detail which states made it just as easy to vote in 2024 as it was in 2020.

Where did all what votes go? We're at 146.1M votes between Harris and Trump - and still counting.
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How many more votes do you think were cast since the last election?
 
Trump and the Republican goons cheated. Voter suppression and rejecting ballots. Noway Kamala received this many fewer votes than Biden. I cannot be fooled! Trump lost the popular vote not once but TWICE!! And after all his crimes and Jan 6th, we're supposed to believe he won the popular vote. 🤣
 
Parker_Chess said:
Trump and the Republican goons cheated. Voter suppression and rejecting ballots. Noway Kamala received this many fewer votes than Biden. I cannot be fooled! Trump lost the popular vote not once but TWICE!! And after all his crimes and Jan 6th, we're supposed to believe he won the popular vote. 🤣
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You forgot the sarcasm tag.

Election cheating is fun to make fun of, sure, but since it has never happened it does need to be made clear that no one actually believes it happened.
 
Anthony60 said:
How many more votes do you think were cast since the last election?
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This question makes no sense, and it's a dodge. 2 strikes.

Make your case and present your evidence or jog on.
 
hooligan said:
We're now at 146.9M votes - and still counting.
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The total is obviously going to be millions less than 2020. I have been looking, but can't seem to find an analysis of where the totals went down the most. Have you seen anything regarding that?
 
SuperDS77 said:
The total is obviously going to be millions less than 2020. I have been looking, but can't seem to find an analysis of where the totals went down the most. Have you seen anything regarding that?
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You mean demographically or geographically?

No, I haven't stumbled on anything for either, but I haven't really been looking.

I maintain that the COVID related changes in 2020 made it easier for folks to vote, so more folks voted. Add to that the pandemic had people (on both sides) motivated to vote as well. 2024 isn't 2020 in a lot of different ways.
 
hooligan said:
You mean demographically or geographically?
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The latter.
hooligan said:
No, I haven't stumbled on anything for either, but I haven't really been looking.

I maintain that the COVID related changes in 2020 made it easier for folks to vote, so more folks voted. Add to that the pandemic had people (on both sides) motivated to vote as well. 2024 isn't 2020 in a lot of different ways.
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Agreed. I personally am curious in which states/counties etc. in which the voting decreased the most. I will keep looking.
 
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