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Justin Trudeau and family move to secret location as Canada trucker protests spark security fears, report says

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Sort of comical after he claimed this was going to be just a "small fringe" that held "unacceptable views".


Either way, it's been a peaceful protest and it's good to see some of our Canadian friends standing up for their rights.


Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau and his family have left their home in Ottawa for a secret location, the CBC reports, amid security concerns as thousands pour into the Canadian capital on Saturday in trucker convoys to protest vaccine mandates.
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www.independent.co.uk

Trudeau moved to secret location as Canada protests spark security fears, report says

The PM’s office hasn’t confirmed the report
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
Carjosse said:
It is a small fringe, the overwhelming majority of Canadians support vaccine mandates as numerous polls have shown.
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Doesn't look like just a small fringe minority to anyone with eyes.



It is amusing how much liberals and their media sock puppets were downplaying this and now it's such an immense protest that Trudeau tucked tail and ran away. Gotta be embarrassing.
 
dobieg said:
Doesn't look like just a small fringe minority to anyone with eyes.



It is amusing how much liberals and their media sock puppets were downplaying this and now it's such an immense protest that Trudeau tucked tail and ran away. Gotta be embarrassing.
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A few thousand people does not a majority make.
Trump crowd size fallacy at work yet again. Certainly if this kind of support existed it would appear in the numerous polls that are always being published. Also it is not Trudeau's call, it is his security team.
 
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dobieg said:
Sort of comical after he claimed this was going to be just a "small fringe" that held "unacceptable views".


Either way, it's been a peaceful protest and it's good to see some of our Canadian friends standing up for their rights.





www.independent.co.uk

Trudeau moved to secret location as Canada protests spark security fears, report says

The PM’s office hasn’t confirmed the report
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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There are security concerns here as this protest is attracting extremist rhetoric and far right activists. And the traffic gridlock it is creating in the capitol would be another security concern in being able to respond in timely fashion to any security threats to the seat of the government.
 
Atomic Kid said:
There are security concerns here as this protest is attracting extremist rhetoric and far right activists. And the traffic gridlock it is creating in the capitol would be another security concern in being able to respond in timely fashion to any security threats to the seat of the government.
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Sounds like Trudeau wasn't expecting many people and was caught flat footed. Then he did the cowardly thing and ran like a little bitch.

It's cool, he's a liberal. It's expected.
 
Truckers often tend to be far-right types, not representing the large number of people in a country.

Nonetheless, I think there are 30-45% dissatisfied voters in EVERY country right now, so these protests are not limited to truckers only …
 
dobieg said:
Sort of comical after he claimed this was going to be just a "small fringe" that held "unacceptable views".


Either way, it's been a peaceful protest and it's good to see some of our Canadian friends standing up for their rights.





www.independent.co.uk

Trudeau moved to secret location as Canada protests spark security fears, report says

The PM’s office hasn’t confirmed the report
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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That's a tactic that's become all too common for leftist politicians and their progressive supporters. When they do or say something they can't defend, find themselves on the wrong side of an issue, made to look foolish, and end up backing themselves into a corner, they attempt to turn the tables by pretending their victims under threat of violence to try and gain public sympathy.

* The BBC's Cathy Newman used that tactic after her dishonest attempt to smear Jordan Peterson during an interview a few years back went viral and made her and the network look bad.
* School board groups used that tactic when they were backed into a corner by parents over allowing CRT based curriculum to be taught to school children.
* Members of the congressional black caucus did the same by making false claims that they were spat upon and called the N word on the steps of the capital when they were faced with hundreds people protesting against Obamacare.
* Two trans activist played the victim card recently after they were made to look foolish by the Daily Wire's John Walsh during a debate on the DR. Phil show.

How many times over the last several years has a leftist been made to look foolish over their words or actions, then turned around and baselessly claimed they have been targeted with threats of violence?

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dobieg said:
Sort of comical after he claimed this was going to be just a "small fringe" that held "unacceptable views".


Either way, it's been a peaceful protest and it's good to see some of our Canadian friends standing up for their rights.
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I honestly don't know much about Canada, although I do admit that the few Canadians I've met were very nice people.

However, this thread caused me to check on the last election results to see how much support Trudeau's Party had such that he could make such disparaging remarks about other Canadians.

en.wikipedia.org

2021 Canadian federal election - Wikipedia

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I found that while his Party won 160 seats, the popular vote was 5,556,629, 33.62%. That the opposition Conservative Party popular vote was 5,747,410 33.74% garnering only 119 seats. Trudeau's Party got nearly 200,000 less votes, but won 41 more seats!

I guess Canada has a form of gerrymandering in play too, where (like here in the USA) sometimes the Party with the larger number of votes cast can still lose an election? :unsure:
 
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dobieg said:
Doesn't look like just a small fringe minority to anyone with eyes.



It is amusing how much liberals and their media sock puppets were downplaying this and now it's such an immense protest that Trudeau tucked tail and ran away. Gotta be embarrassing.
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Actually there are people attempting to claim that the Truckers are actually fascist, because they're protesting.

I know I've seen CNN come across with that and I believe Brian Stelter was the one who run the article.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I honestly don't know much about Canada, although I do admit that the few Canadians I've met were very nice people.

However, this thread caused me to check on the last election results to see how much support Trudeau's Party had such that he could make such disparaging remarks about other Canadians.

I found that while his Party won 160 seats, the popular vote was 5,556,629, 33.62%. That the opposition Conservative Party popular vote was 5,747,410 33.74% garnering only 119 seats. Trudeau's Party got nearly 200,000 less votes, but won 41 more seats!

I guess Canada has a form of gerrymandering in play too, where (like here in the USA) sometimes the Party with the larger number of votes cast can still lose an election? :unsure:
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That's mostly the case in your FPTP systems (or also called "winner-take-all").

The party with the largest vote share doesn't necessarily become the largest party in seats - mostly because the incumbent party often has strong incumbent MPs or Representatives who prevail against lesser-known newcomers from the opposition parties. For example, if Trudeau's Liberals have strong incumbents in many urban seats and they are winning them, they run up the seat score, while the opposition Conservatives and NDP candidates split the remaining seats among their candidates.

A proportional system in my opinion is therefore much fairer, because it reflects the will of the people better. These systems are used in most of Europe, except the UK, which also has an unfair system: the Greens, Liberals, or UKIP used to poll 10-20% of the voting intention before an election ... and often got zero (!) seats in parliament. That's not fair.
 
Tender Branson said:
That's mostly the case in your FPTP systems (or also called "winner-take-all").

The party with the largest vote share doesn't necessarily become the largest party in seats - mostly because the incumbent party often has strong incumbent MPs or Representatives who prevail against lesser-known newcomers from the opposition parties. For example, if Trudeau's Liberals have strong incumbents in many urban seats and they are winning them, they run up the seat score, while the opposition Conservatives and NDP candidates split the remaining seats among their candidates.

A proportional system in my opinion is therefore much fairer, because it reflects the will of the people better. These systems are used in most of Europe, except the UK, which also has an unfair system: the Greens, Liberals, or UKIP used to poll 10-20% of the voting intention before an election ... and often got zero (!) seats in parliament. That's not fair.
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I am aware of the process.

The point I was alluding to was that Mr. Trudeau disparages protesters in the OP source material, trying to scapegoat/demonize them as a "fringe minority," when more of "them" voted for an opposition Party than voted for HIS party.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I am aware of the process.

My actual point was that Mr. Trudeau disparages protesters in the OP source material, trying to scapegoat/demonize them, when more of "them" voted for an opposition Party than voted for HIS party.
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You might be right, political elites often are smug and look down on regular working folks.

But Trudeau isn't really wrong either: Polls suggest that a large majority of Canadians are backing the measures in place as common-sense and the Conservatives only got 33% of the vote.

There are other parties in Canada, such as the NDP and the Greens (which align closely ideologically with Trudeau's Liberals).
 
Carjosse said:
A few thousand people does not a majority make.
Trump crowd size fallacy at work yet again. Certainly if this kind of support existed it would appear in the numerous polls that are always being published. Also it is not Trudeau's call, it is his security team.
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We all know it’s Trudeau that decided to leave, he’s the biggest beta male on planet earth. Harper would’ve stayed in Ottawa. Of course he wouldn’t have been so dumb as to provoke protests in the first place
 
Seems Canada has their version of Mainstream Media...complete with fake news.

A CBC host suggested Russia is playing a nefarious role in the Truckers Freedom Convoy. CBC host Nil Koksal made this allegation Friday when speaking with the Minister of Public Safety Marco Mendicino.
thepostmillennial.com

CBC suggests that Russia is behind Canadian Truckers’ Freedom Convoy

CBC host Nil Koksal made this allegation Friday when speaking with the Minister of Public Safety Marco Mendicino.
thepostmillennial.com thepostmillennial.com
 
dobieg said:
Sort of comical after he claimed this was going to be just a "small fringe" that held "unacceptable views".


Either way, it's been a peaceful protest and it's good to see some of our Canadian friends standing up for their rights.





www.independent.co.uk

Trudeau moved to secret location as Canada protests spark security fears, report says

The PM’s office hasn’t confirmed the report
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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Odd that this "small fringe" of Canadians have so many Neo Nazi Americans among them. The Swastika and Confederate flags have been spotted a number of times.
 
PeteEU said:
Odd that this "small fringe" of Canadians have so many Neo Nazi Americans among them. The Swastika and Confederate flags have been spotted a number of times.
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Oh. Flags are sooooo scary lol. 😂
 
Mycroft said:
Seems Canada has their version of Mainstream Media...complete with fake news.

A CBC host suggested Russia is playing a nefarious role in the Truckers Freedom Convoy. CBC host Nil Koksal made this allegation Friday when speaking with the Minister of Public Safety Marco Mendicino.​
thepostmillennial.com

CBC suggests that Russia is behind Canadian Truckers’ Freedom Convoy

CBC host Nil Koksal made this allegation Friday when speaking with the Minister of Public Safety Marco Mendicino.
thepostmillennial.com thepostmillennial.com
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

You and the authors of that article got it wrong.

Nil Koksal, a singular CBC Radio host ASKING the Canadian Minister of Public Safety a question during an interview, a pertinent question, does not make for CBC officially "suggesting" anything.

What about her question do you consider to be "fake news" as you so lamely put it?
 
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