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The Justice Department’s ethics office has recommended reversing the Bush administration and reopening nearly a dozen prisoner-abuse cases, potentially exposing Central Intelligence Agency employees and contractors to prosecution for brutal treatment of terrorism suspects, according to a person officially briefed on the matter.
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With the release of the details on Monday and the formal advice that at least some cases be reopened, it now seems all but certain that the appointment of a prosecutor or other concrete steps will follow, posing significant new problems for the C.I.A. It is politically awkward, too, for Mr. Holder because President Obama has said that he would rather move forward than get bogged down in the issue at the expense of his own agenda.
The advice from the Office of Professional Responsibility strengthens Mr. Holder’s hand.
The recommendation to review the closed cases, in effect renewing the inquiries, centers mainly on allegations of detainee abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Justice Department report is to be made public after classified information is deleted from it.
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The cases do not center on allegations of abuse by C.I.A. officers who conducted the forceful interrogations of high-level Qaeda suspects at secret sites, although it is not out of the question that a new investigation would also examine their conduct.
That could mean a look at the case in which C.I.A. officers threatened one prisoner with a handgun and a power drill if he did not cooperate. The detainee, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, was suspected as the master plotter behind the 2000 bombing of the Navy destroyer Cole.
The duty of the interegators was to gain information to protect American citizens, if they used hot coal up the nostril tactics that would fine by me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/us/politics/24detain.html?hp=&pagewanted=print
It's important for both sides to recognize what this is - this is not a criminal investigation into the waterboarding incidents, nor is it an investigation into any of the higher-ups in the Bush administration. It's an investigation focusing on the actions of individual interrogators at the CIA who allegedly went past the limits set forth in US law as to what they could do.
This is one of those cases where it appears that the investigation is a good idea, though neither political side will be particularly happy with it.
Gotta feel bad for the CIA folks, now they gotta fear that the next administration will decide what they were doing was "illegal" and come after them.
I vas just following orders has not been a successful defense since Nuremberg.
I strongly suspect it will make th agency more resistant to political whims of presidential Admins.Nothing good will come out of this.
Couldn't that exact same line be used about the Gestapo in 1939 Germany by just exchanging the word "German" for "American" in that sentence?
I vas just following orders has not been a successful defense since Nuremberg.
This isn't Nuremburg. We're talking about our people who were serving the same country that now wants to put them in jail.
This will do more damage to CIA than the Church hearings did. Nothing good will come out of this.
There's a huge difference between gassing 6 million people and smacking a terrorist around a little bit.
But, hey, go for it. This will just put one more nail in PBO's political coffin.
The duty of the interegators was to gain information to protect American citizens, if they used hot coal up the nostril tactics that would fine by me.
So now the CIA Employees are Nazi's killing millions, got it.
So now the CIA Employees are Nazi's killing millions, got it.
This isn't Nuremburg. We're talking about our people who were serving the same country that now wants to put them in jail.
This will do more damage to CIA than the Church hearings did. Nothing good will come out of this.
There's a huge difference between gassing 6 million people and smacking a terrorist around a little bit.
But, hey, go for it. This will just put one more nail in PBO's political coffin.
Go ahead and investigate, clear these folks of any wrong doing and drop it.
That's because you're an Authoritarian masquerading as a Conservative.
The law only applies to the "bad guys". The "good guys" can break the law for the right reasons.
You don't give a damn about the Rule of Law or the Constitution...the foundation of what was is good about this Country.
Why do you hate this Country so much?
Not in any debate...but certainly 100% applicable in this one.:roll:
Your point being that the comparison to nazis in any debate is 100% certainty?
Not in any debate...but certainly 100% applicable in this one.
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