Just in case you think they aren't really Marxists.

Grandpappy · Apr 15, 2021

https://www.city-journal.org/california-ethnic-studies-programs-merchants-of-revolution

These are the people that "educate", or more accurately, indoctrinate our kids.
Terrifying.

"Pacheco then argued that the United States is a political regime based on “settler colonialism,” which he describes as a “system of oppression” that “occupies and usurps land/labor/resources from one group of people for the benefit of another.” The settler colonialist regime, Pacheco continues, is “not just a vicious thing of the past, but [one that] exists as long as settlers are living on appropriated land.” The white colonialist regime of the United States is a “parasitic system” responsible for domestic violence, drug overdoses, and other social problems. In a related PowerPoint slide, Pacheco presented examples of this oppression, including “men exploiting women,” “white people exploiting people of color,” and “rich people exploiting poor people.”

Excast · Apr 15, 2021

Is he wrong?

White colonists did occupy and usurp the land from it's native people, who they then systematically drove across the country and finally onto reservations.

They did spend hundreds of years exploiting black slave labor for their own personal benefit, only to replace slavery with Jim Crow.

Women were treated as second class citizens by the white male patriarchy and for the majority of this country's history they didn't have the right to vote.

And yes, if you look at the absurd amount of income/wealth inequality in this country today, even as productivity is higher than it has ever been, I can't imagine coming to any other conclusion than that the rich are exploiting the poor for their personal benefit.

southwest88 · Apr 15, 2021

Going back to founder William Casey (Pres. Regan's CIA director), the Manhattan Institute is reliably conservative. See Manhattan Institute for Policy Research - Wikipedia

MI's donor list is a Who's Who of Right funding:

"Funding sources[edit]
"Foundations which have contributed over $1 million to the Manhattan Institute include the John M. Olin Foundation, Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, Searle Freedom Trust, Smith Richardson Foundation, William E. Simon Foundation, the Claude Lambe Foundation, the Gilder Foundation, the Curry Foundation, and the Jaquelin Hume Foundation.[citation needed]"

(From the Wikipedia article above)

j brown's body · Apr 15, 2021

Being anti-slavery is Marxist now?

Excast · Apr 15, 2021

j brown's body said:
Being anti-slavery is Marxist now?

Acknowledging history is Marxist.

armycowboy · Apr 15, 2021

Grandpappy said:
https://www.city-journal.org/california-ethnic-studies-programs-merchants-of-revolution

These are the people that "educate", or more accurately, indoctrinate our kids.
Terrifying.

"Pacheco then argued that the United States is a political regime based on “settler colonialism,” which he describes as a “system of oppression” that “occupies and usurps land/labor/resources from one group of people for the benefit of another.” The settler colonialist regime, Pacheco continues, is “not just a vicious thing of the past, but [one that] exists as long as settlers are living on appropriated land.” The white colonialist regime of the United States is a “parasitic system” responsible for domestic violence, drug overdoses, and other social problems. In a related PowerPoint slide, Pacheco presented examples of this oppression, including “men exploiting women,” “white people exploiting people of color,” and “rich people exploiting poor people.”

What does any of this have to do with Marxism?

Mr Person · Apr 15, 2021

Why does @Grandpappy think everyone on the right is a nazi? Doesn't he get that these are just a group of people in a nation of ~328,200,000 people? Doesn't he understand how bitterly dishonest, partisan, and monumentaly ****ing stupid it is to call everyone on his side a nazi, just because these people are on the right with him?

For shame!

What are the odds he will be unable to figure out where I'm going with this?

armycowboy · Apr 15, 2021

Mr Person said:
What are the odds he will be unable to figure out where I'm going with this?

Well, he obviously doesn't know what Marxism is, just a term Carlson and Hannity use to "own the libs". Therefore it's highly doubtful he catches what you're pitching.

ashurbanipal · Apr 15, 2021

Excast said:
Is he wrong?

White colonists did occupy and usurp the land from it's native people, who they then systematically drove across the country and finally onto reservations.

They did spend hundreds of years exploiting black slave labor for their own personal benefit, only to replace slavery with Jim Crow.

Women were treated as second class citizens by the white male patriarchy and for the majority of this country's history they didn't have the right to vote.

And yes, if you look at the absurd amount of income/wealth inequality in this country today, even as productivity is higher than it has ever been, I can't imagine coming to any other conclusion than that the rich are exploiting the poor for their personal benefit.

What Excast said^^^

Nickyjo · Apr 15, 2021

armycowboy said:
Well, he obviously doesn't know what Marxism is, just a term Carlson and Hannity use to "own the libs". Therefore it's highly doubtful he catches what you're pitching.

Nah, I think "socialism" is the term of art used to attack liberals these days. Marxism is a stretch for their audiences, as it brings to mind Groucho, not Karl. Funny how the epithets change: commie, pinko, un-American, etc. in the past, now socialist. There actually used to be a thing called the House Committee on Un-American Activities. They didn't use the term "mission statement" back then, but their founding language must have been hilarious. The left countered by calling it the House Un-American Activities Committee, which annoyed conservatives. It's still called HUAC. (Can you imagine a committee on un-Canadian Activites, un-Italian Activities?

To be sure, the left has had its epithets, but 1% doesn't have any of the pisazz of socialism.

Antiwar · Apr 15, 2021

Grandpappy said:
These are the people that "educate", or more accurately, indoctrinate our kids.
Terrifying.

What about this terrifies you?

Grandpappy · Apr 15, 2021

Antiwar said:
What about this terrifies you?

If I wanted to live in a communist country, I'd move to Venezuela.

I don't. You?

Grandpappy · Apr 15, 2021

Maybe I'll be there to shake your hand (Shake your hand)
Maybe I'll be there to share the land (Share the land)
That they'll be givin' away
When we all live together, we're talkin' 'bout together, now

Schism · Apr 15, 2021

I can tell you right now what the end game looks like: Abolish the Constitution in it's Entirety. It's coming.

First, assassinate the founders, then destroy the founders documents. I don't believe this is the Dem party agenda.

I believe it's the goal of the woke, PC, race-hustling crowd, BLM, NEA, The Squad, progressives, some liberals, et al.

Antiwar · Apr 15, 2021

Schism said:
I can tell you right now what the end game looks like: Abolish the Constitution in it's Entirety. It's coming.

First, assassinate the founders, then destroy the founders documents. I don't believe this is the Dem party agenda.

I believe it's the goal of the woke, PC, race-hustling crowd, BLM, NEA, The Squad, progressives, some liberals, et al.

The Constitution needs a lot of improvements.

Schism · Apr 15, 2021

Antiwar said:
The Constitution needs a lot of improvements.

^^^ There it is.

Eventually you'll agree that the best constitutional improvement plan is to burn it all down and start over.

Aunt Antifa · Apr 15, 2021

Grandpappy said:
If I wanted to live in a communist country, I'd move to Venezuela.

I don't. You?

You already do. We have a crony capitalist society. ‘Grats.

Antiwar · Apr 15, 2021

Grandpappy said:
If I wanted to live in a communist country, I'd move to Venezuela.

I don't. You?

When did Venezuela become communist?

Government [Venezuela]: Federal dominant-party presidential constitutional republic

When did Marxism become communism?

Marxism is a method of socioeconomic analysis that uses a materialist interpretation of historical development, better known as historical materialism, to understand class relations and social conflict as well as a dialectical perspective to view social transformation. It originates from the works of 19th-century German philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. As Marxism has developed over time into various branches and schools of thought, there is currently no single definitive Marxist theory.[1]

calamity · Apr 15, 2021

Grandpappy said:
...the United States is a political regime based on “settler colonialism,” which he describes as a “system of oppression” that “occupies and usurps land/labor/resources from one group of people for the benefit of another.” ...

How is the bold wrong?

Aunt Antifa · Apr 15, 2021

Schism said:
I can tell you right now what the end game looks like: Abolish the Constitution in it's Entirety. It's coming.

First, assassinate the founders, then destroy the founders documents. I don't believe this is the Dem party agenda.

I believe it's the goal of the woke, PC, race-hustling crowd, BLM, NEA, The Squad, progressives, some liberals, et al.

It’s not Democrats threatening everyone with civil war every 5 minutes over everything from masks to Dr Seuss.

calamity · Apr 15, 2021

Excast said:
Is he wrong?

White colonists did occupy and usurp the land from it's native people, who they then systematically drove across the country and finally onto reservations.

They did spend hundreds of years exploiting black slave labor for their own personal benefit, only to replace slavery with Jim Crow.

Women were treated as second class citizens by the white male patriarchy and for the majority of this country's history they didn't have the right to vote.

And yes, if you look at the absurd amount of income/wealth inequality in this country today, even as productivity is higher than it has ever been, I can't imagine coming to any other conclusion than that the rich are exploiting the poor for their personal benefit.

It seems the brainwashing on the Right runs so deep they refuse to see what lies in front of their nose and just spew out garbage like "Marxism" without even thinking.

Lutherf · Apr 15, 2021

Excast said:
Acknowledging history is Marxist.

You aren't acknowledging history. You are ignoring it as a whole in favor of selecting tiny slices and considering only them as being representative of the whole.

Antiwar · Apr 15, 2021

Schism said:
^^^ There it is.

Eventually you'll agree that the best constitutional improvement plan is to burn it all down and start over.

Is the Constitution a city or something?

What does the Constitution represent to you?

Schism · Apr 15, 2021

Antiwar said:
Is the Constitution a city or something?

I think it's a ship you can board for like $10 and has a gift shop.

What does the Constitution represent to you?

Hmm. The basis of supreme law of the land? The framework of our nation and form of gov't? Defines the branches of gov't?

is paper? Is kept under glass?

Grandpappy · Apr 15, 2021

calamity said:
It seems the brainwashing on the Right runs so deep they refuse to see what lies in front of their nose and just spew out garbage like "Marxism" without even thinking.

Man!, is that projection or what?

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