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Just can't wait for the liberal excuses which are sure to follow

Who started the withdrawal? Who made a dumb deal with the Talibans.
 
NatMorton said:
It doesn't matter. Biden is in charge, and if he agreed with Trump's decision to withdraw from Afghanistan it was his, Biden's, responsibility to put an orderly plan in place. To blame the chaotic withdrawal on Trump -- as team Biden and his defenders are doing -- is nothing short of a shameful duck-and-cover exercise.
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don;t forget, an OBVIOUS shameful duck-and-cover lol.
 
Israel is probably sitting around thinking...

"Hmmm. All the Taliban leaders in one building. :unsure:"
 
Hypothetical said:
well he should at least stop being an idiot in the way he is doing it. I doubt he is following Trump's plan, because he has stated he believes Trump was incompetent. If he is following a plan from a person he thought incompetent, we are worse off than we thought because he truly is stupid.
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What was Trump's plan for withdrawal, and what changes has Biden made to it?
 
Hypothetical said:
who implemented a fiasco? starts with B....
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Biden is not blameless but he inherited a fiasco with a choice, a complete U-turn or go through with the withdrawal. He chose the latter. There were no good choices.
 
NatMorton said:
It doesn't matter. Biden is in charge, and if he agreed with Trump's decision to withdraw from Afghanistan it was his, Biden's, responsibility to put an orderly plan in place. To blame the chaotic withdrawal on Trump -- as team Biden and his defenders are doing -- is nothing short of a shameful duck-and-cover exercise.
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Do Trump had no withdrawal plan.
 
augustus said:
Do you get your news from CNN?
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Do you get your news from OAN? Just about the only two networks I don't watch are OAN and Newsmax because they are complete right wing propagada. I also avoid sites like PragerU for the same reason, though I will make fun of their content from time to time when they post something particularly egregious.
 
tres borrachos said:
What was Trump's plan for withdrawal, and what changes has Biden made to it?
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This is an amazingly lame line of questioning you're pushing here. What, it's Trump's fault that he didn't leave ol' Joe a detailed set of instructions on how to pull out of Afghanistan without making it a national embarrassment and a death sentence for our allies on the ground?

Pathetic.
 
And in related news, FDR has been retroactively blamed for the US having to drop two atomic bombs on Japan when it became known he did not leave Harry Truman a detailed plan for invading Japan's home islands.
 
tres borrachos said:
What was Trump's plan for withdrawal, and what changes has Biden made to it?
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doesn't matter, Joe's plan is the one being implemented. The plan sucks... he is not providing enough support for removal of those who need to get out and things are falling apart way too quickly than a measured approach could have worked. actually it would not have been bad to feint such a move and kick the taliban's ass some more before actually pulling out, making them wary but nope, our wonderful leader apparently can't think that far ahead.

other analysts have said he could have waited until winter, bad fighting weather for Taliban fighters, but nope, lets go in during the "fighting season" as they call it.

it is not THAT he is withdrawing, it is HOW he is doing it.
 
Hypothetical said:
doesn't matter, Joe's plan is the one being implemented. The plan sucks... he is not providing enough support for removal of those who need to get out and things are falling apart way too quickly than a measured approach could have worked. actually it would not have been bad to feint such a move and kick the taliban's ass some more before actually pulling out, making them wary but nope, our wonderful leader apparently can't think that far ahead.

other analysts have said he could have waited until winter, bad fighting weather for Taliban fighters, but nope, lets go in during the "fighting season" as they call it.

it is not THAT he is withdrawing, it is HOW he is doing it.
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What was Trump's plan, and what is Biden doing that's different.
 
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