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Just because I am curious

TurtleDude said:
I would argue that continuing to debate him given the idiocy gibberish contained in his posts is "doofus":mrgreen:
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It would not surprise me if this was an assigned duty. Happens all the time in UK, Home office interferes with message boards trying to influence and aid gun control.
 
Crimefree said:
No problem let me fix that.

Spices being necessary for a good meal, the right of the people to keep and eat salt, shall not be infringed.

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You will note that the prefix "un"necessary was not used and its use is not only an attempt to change and falsify the meaning you have shown no proof it was intend.
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Crimefree said:
It would not surprise me if this was an assigned duty. Happens all the time in UK, Home office interferes with message boards trying to influence and aid gun control.
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This is what our Second Amendment would need to say, to carry that point of view:

A well regulated Militia, being unnecessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That makes more sense than the trying to omit that which is necessary to the security of a free State. And there would be no Appeal to Ignorance of the first clause.

Should I complain if a really hot chic comes over, claims she is from the "Registry Office" and that I am on her to-do list, and asks if I have any questions?
 
danielpalos said:
This is what our Second Amendment would need to say, to carry that point of view:

A well regulated Militia, being unnecessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That makes more sense than the trying to omit that which is necessary to the security of a free State. And there would be no Appeal to Ignorance of the first clause.

Should I complain if a really hot chic comes over, claims she is from the "Registry Office" and that I am on her to-do list, and asks if I have any questions?
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Makes more sense to who? Bandwaggoning.
 
danielpalos said:
There is Only one way to Interpret this:
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Red herring.

It does not need interpretation and the founding fathers were quite capable of adding "un" had they wanted to. The only way of "interpreting" is to read and understand what they wrote. Give it a try.
 
Crimefree said:
Red herring.

It does not need interpretation and the founding fathers were quite capable of adding "un" had they wanted to. The only way of "interpreting" is to read and understand what they wrote. Give it a try.
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It can't be a red herring if it literally, says what it means and means what is says.
 
Crimefree said:
I can hear an echo.
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A well regulated Militia, being unnecessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Since our Second Amendment doesn't say that, there is no rational basis to ignore the first clause.
 
danielpalos said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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Well regulated libraries, being necessary to a good education, the right of the people to keep and bear books shall not be infringed.
 
Crimefree said:
Well regulated libraries, being necessary to a good education, the right of the people to keep and bear books shall not be infringed.
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That is a States' right secured by our Tenth Amendment.

Any questions?
 
danielpalos said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That is a States' right secured by our Tenth Amendment.

Any questions?
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Yes does that interfere with the right of the people to keep and bear arms assuming you are correct which you are not.

Well regulated libraries, being necessary to a good education, the right of the people to keep and bear books, shall not be infringed.
 
Crimefree said:
Yes does that interfere with the right of the people to keep and bear arms assuming you are correct which you are not.

Well regulated libraries, being necessary to a good education, the right of the people to keep and bear books, shall not be infringed.
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Yes, simply because what is necessary to the security of a free State is a States' right.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
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It is simple, Socialism 101.
 
Crimefree said:
Yes does that interfere with the right of the people to keep and bear arms assuming you are correct which you are not.

Well regulated libraries, being necessary to a good education, the right of the people to keep and bear books, shall not be infringed.
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a free press being necessary for a well educated nation, the right of the people to speak and write as they please shall not be infringed

Interpreted as the gun banners as requiring membership in the press in order to have first amendment rights

why continue to engage the person who has demonstrated only an ability to jumble up the words of the USSC
 
danielpalos said:
Yes, simply because what is necessary to the security of a free State is a States' right.
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No rights are accorded to states by the 2nd. None what so ever. Please produce and quote the section of the constitution that accords a state any rights

Well regulated libraries, being necessary to a good education, the right of the people to keep and bear books, shall not be infringed.

Or where is education accorded any right.

It is simple, Socialism 101.
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Can you prove our forefathers intended that? I wish you luck on that.
 
TurtleDude said:
a free press being necessary for a well educated nation, the right of the people to speak and write as they please shall not be infringed

Interpreted as the gun banners as requiring membership in the press in order to have first amendment rights

why continue to engage the person who has demonstrated only an ability to jumble up the words of the USSC
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It's like playing with toys and gives my mind practice for dealing with such people I would rather strangle;)
 
Perhaps we can put a hijacked sticker on this one. It annoys me when somebody can do that without objection. Which is a great pity that so many are now dead ends.
 
Crimefree said:
Perhaps we can put a hijacked sticker on this one. It annoys me when somebody can do that without objection. Which is a great pity that so many are now dead ends.
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if people would not engage in the fallacy of feeding it, it might go away
 
Crimefree said:
No rights are accorded to states by the 2nd. None what so ever. Please produce and quote the section of the constitution that accords a state any rights
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What is necessary to the security of a free State is a States' right. It is enumerated in our own Second Amendment.
 
TurtleDude said:
if people would not engage in the fallacy of feeding it, it might go away
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I really don't think so. It seems to be chained to a stuck record player.
 
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