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It's the acting AG's place to send the report on. Yes, a Congress could subpoena the report, but that would require a Democratic-controlled Congress. But then, a Democratic-controlled Congress was always an entirely different topic anyway.
Short of a Congressional subpoena, if Congress got the report outside of the acting AG's decision to send the report on, then they would have acquired the report outside of the proper process. In other words, they would have gotten it from the SC and Mueller would then be under some serious legal liability.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...acd97698cef_story.html?utm_term=.7a4c7d2aa613
Things are starting to move again.
Pardon himself? That would be of to the Supreme Court.
Trump has made more bipartisanship happen in 1 week than Obama did in 8 years.
We should all be happy about this.
:lol:
Guys, I think cars can run on water, but the government doesn't want it to get out. This link is something to chew on.
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-cars-run-on-water-instead-of-gasoline/
I don't want to dismiss it as impossible, but it would be the political equivalent of launching nukes. There's no turning back. He can stay ahead of the process likely for years (if he can get re-elected) however it would be the end of the United States of America as we know it. People don't react much to the term "constitutional crisis" but pause there and think about a land 100% divided, and well armed.
Nixon was talked out of a melt down...and from reports it took some doing. But I look at some of the people around Nixon at the time and at Trump's people and stop there.....
No he can't stop the investigation by firing anyone.. What he can do is pardon everyone involve [even himself if necessary] That will kill the investigation.
He can't pardon anyone Mueller refers to the NY AG's office for prosecution.
I'd like to see Trump pardon himself after a criminal conviction.
Arrrrggghh. It's not the AG's office. It's the Federal Southern District of New York.
I'm not talking about Federal prosecution. I"m talking about the people that the NY AG is going after in partnership with Mueller. Mueller and Schniederman are hand in hand on this deal, ad hoc if not officially.
Schneiderman is more than willing to go after anyone violating state law within the scope of this investigation. All Mueller has to do is present him with the information and a state case can be pursued.
By the way, I just want to make it clear that I agree with everybody regarding the consequences of such a an extreme (and way more plausible than it has any right to be) hypothetical scenario.
I'm just illustrating that based on everything I've researched and learned over the course of the past year, the barriers between Trump and the complete breakdown of the rule of law and democratic principles are much fewer and thinner than a lot of people appreciate.
Nearly all of the safeguards I assumed were laws actually turned out to be gentlemen's agreements...or "norms"...this entire time. I learned that what's been holding the concept of democracy together hasn't been law, but the idea that the people running the show actually want Democracy. It taught me why we have such a hilariously difficult time bringing democracy to countries that don't want it. If you don't want democracy, you can't be made to abide by it or protect it.
This would be unconstitutional.
He can't pardon anyone Mueller refers to the NY AG's office for prosecution.
I'd like to see Trump pardon himself after a criminal conviction.
Want a really "fun" scenario?
- Mr. Trump is indicted, tried, and convicted of "Murder 1".
- The House beings in a "Bill of Impeachment" considers it, and passes it on a vote of 435 to 0.
- The "Bill of Impeachment" goes to the Senate and the Senate, on a snap vote votes
- 33 to convict, and
- 18 to acquit;
- The vote fails to convict because 33 is only 64.71% and it would require 66.66+% to convict.
- The courts of the District of Columbia grant New York's extradition request.
- The capitol of the United States of America moves temporarily to Ossining NY.
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