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Do I need to define statist?
Yes, organized religion often does outlast governments. But it doesn't last forever. Ex: Zues
What does that tell you?
Who or what are Zues?
Your "holy bible" was written by men. Not God. And yes, it has changed. No longer do people follow everything in the bible. If they did then we'd still have slavery and we wouldn't have separation of church and state. But that aside take a look at the old testament, then take a look at the new, then again take a look at the newest edition of the bible. It's changed, lots.
Inspired by God
The NT is an affermation of the old.
I've had the same Bible forever.
Inspired by God
The NT is an affermation of the old.
I've had the same Bible forever.
Yes, I am, and those 'monikers' have their own meanings.
You don't have much respect for proper use of English, do you. But that's kind of a conservative thing too, isn't it. Anything that isn't conservative is liberal, and anything you like about liberalism is conservative. I see it as another example of the cult of ignorance that prevails in much of your society.
Look at it this way, when anyone says they hope the people in a communist or socialist country would get more freedom, do they say they hope the regime becomes more conservative? Or do they hope it becomes more liberal? When the USSR fell apart, it was because the old-guard conservative communists had passed on and a more liberal leadership style emerged.
Within the law, something that is legal, such as civil marriage, is defined by the laws that deal with it, which are put in place by the "state". Personal marriage is defined by individuals entering into marriage. There are two types of marriage, personal and civil. Civil marriage is what is in contention here, because personal marriage is defined by the individuals, not society. Society can have a say in how civil marriage is defined, but it must be consistent with the laws of that society.
Nothing really except that religions are a bit more flexible than governments in most places since they have very little power over the people (that isn't given to them voluntarily by individuals) unless they are actually controlling the government.
And, although I'm pretty sure you already know this, I'm pretty sure that was a typo, and it is meant to be "Zeus". Not too hard to figure out really.
It is your opinion, your interpretation that it is "inspired by God". You cannot prove that.
And I have two different Bibles. I know of several different versions, not even counting the fact that it has been translated into many different languages, including the fact that it was not originally written in English. Even Thomas Jefferson made his own Bible, which removed any references to supernatural events/miracles.
I pray that I will.You've been alive forever?
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No, the issue is NOT just about legalities.
If that were the case then these people would have been satisfied with Civil Unions.
No, this is activism, a coordinated attack of a age old definition that transcends Religion and cultures and races.
It does screw you on tax day.
My point is by his decision, his and other Gay couples will benefit if they choose to do so. He even admits in his ruling the he's going against the wishes of the majority in 'his' state and makes out like it's a hard decision.
I say he's biased.
Can you explain what is sacred about meeting a woman at Centrifuge in the MGM and 4 hours later marrying her in a drivetru chapel by and Elvis impersonator. Until you start looking to make that illegal you are not exactly going to win the sacred institution argument.
It's the STATE who's demanding SSM be made legal over the will of the people. Statism (they actually have their grubby fingers in all marriage)
As it is only. a small protion of society have any say at all. ( the point of my discontent)
Lol...
Then push to force the Federal Government to recognize legal civil unions instead of attacking a sacred istitution.
Religions of the world have a great bit of affect on people within their membership. (some of you don't understand religion at all)
Didn't know Zeus was a religion.
No. We are winning the push to allow same sex couples to marry. Why would I want more government institutions when there is no legitimate reason the one available now, marriage, won't work for same sex couples the same way it does for me and other opposite sex couples?
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You can't prove otherwise!
I've study several but, the KJV is my favorite. We often reference the study Bible as well.
No, the traditional and fundamental definition of a marriage is centered around a Family unit that includes a Mother and Father and Children.
Two Gay men deprive a child of a Mother,two Gay women deprive a child of a Father.
Sorry, but there is a Good reason Gay Marriage hasn't been Socially acceptable for much of Recorded human history and then some.
Your Opinions are meaningless.
Oh and 30 activist Judges disagree with me. So what ?
You're rights aren't being denied if its currently ILLEGAL to marry someone of the same Sex.
You dont like the Law ? Tough cookies.
It's the STATE who's demanding SSM be made legal over the will of the people. Statism (they actually have their grubby fingers in all marriage)
As it is only. a small protion of society have any say at all. ( the point of my discontent)
Bottom line is marriage is a solemn promise before God between one man and one woman so, nothing was denied. And nothing was 'allowed'. It's not for the state to have a say in the matter
"Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Two men or two women can not be "one flesh" no matter how politically correct you or anyone else thinks it can be.
You can see the kind of damage that the destruction of the Family unit can cause.
Look at any inner city area in America.
Oh yes great slave to the alter of huge government. May it bestow on you your every fantasy.
Barely passed, 6 years ago, with a lot of misinformation being put out. Then overturned.
Find an "objective poll" that says differently about Texas and the view of same sex marriage now (as in not 2005 when Texas voted to put that ban in place). A lot has changed in the past decade, particularly the last few years, when it comes to same sex marriage.
That poll is just as valid as any that you could find.
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