Whether allowing the Ten Commandments to be displayed as it was in this case violates the Establishment Clause or some other part of the First Amendment does not depend on what you personally think. And the Supreme Court does not seem to agree with your assertion that it's permissible only if "any other religion" also gets to put its monument up on the same grounds.
You might want to look at Pleasant Grove City, Utah v. Summum, a 2009 Supreme Court decision. Members of the Summum religion demanded that the city let it place a monument inscribed with the "Seven Aphorisms of Summum" in a city park where other donated monuments had been erected. The Court held that although the area was a "traditional public forum for speeches and other transitory acts, the display of a permanent monument in a public park is not a form of expression to which forum analysis applies."
The placement of a permanent monument in a public park was not subject to scrutiny under the Free Speech Clause, the Court explained, because it was a form of government speech. As long as the city's acceptance of a monument could not be seen as an endorsement of religion, it was free to accept or reject private monuments.
Once again, here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods before me
2. You shall not make for yourselves an idol
3. You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God
4. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy
5. Honor your father and your mother
6. You shall not murder
7. You shall not commit adultery
8. You shall not steal
9. You shall not give false testimony
10. You shall not covet
1. outlawed by the First Amendment.
2. won't get you in trouble in Modern America.
3. won't get you in trouble in Modern America.
4. Most big stores are open on Saturday and Sunday both. No sabbaths there.
5. won't get you in trouble in Modern America.
6. Bingo! There's one!
7. Won't get you in trouble with the law, but could have some negative consequences.
8. Bingo! Yet another!
9. And there's the third
10. Downright encouraged in a capitalist system.
There you go. The Ten Commandments as a basis for modern law.
It's well worth pointing out, in turn, that most “progressives” are very “tolerant” of things with which they agree. Of things with which they do not agree, not so much.
Of course, this wrong-wing interpretation of “tolerance” misses the entire point of tolerance.
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My given name is "Franklin". A franklin was someone who served their lord out of love for them, not out of obligation. As such, the term translates to "faithful servant" pretty well.
The Ten Commandments are one of the foundational legal statements of mankind. They are entirely appropriate to posted in front of a courthouse. The examples you give are NOT part of the foundational legal examples of our society, the Ten are (along with several other documents). This is the reason they are there an as such, they should be left alone. It's why we haven't removed all the rest of the examples of the Ten from our federals buildings, because they represent one of the core documents of our legal system.
Now, I'll most likely be accused of stating that the Ten are the foundation of our laws, which I most certainly am not stating. They are a part of it, but not the whole of it.
I agree. It was funded by private sources.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that personal opinions were not allowed on forums.
And still put on public land. It doesn't matter who pays for it, it matters where it sits. Anyone who wants to put the Ten Commandments in their own front yard, on their own property, is welcome to do so. They do not have a right to put it on public land that belongs to all of us.
Try again.
Anything denoting religion on public property should not be allowed.
Fortunately, your personal opinion is irrelevant.
Tell me, how does posting a copy of the Ten Commandments make laws that respects or establishes one religion over the other ?
And if a Judge ruled that they be removed then his ruling can be appealed.
It WILL be appealed.
I think Sharia Law should be placed on courtrooms because they're just as applicable.
Can you see how you contradict yourself in as little as two sentences?" Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."
Does posting the Ten commandments on a Public building do that ?
And also, what does Sharia Law have to do with our Judeo Christian founding ?
It's just words, what's the big deal?
It's just words, what's the big deal?
The Ten Commandments are one of the foundational legal statements of mankind. They are entirely appropriate to posted in front of a courthouse. The examples you give are NOT part of the foundational legal examples of our society, the Ten are (along with several other documents). This is the reason they are there an as such, they should be left alone. It's why we haven't removed all the rest of the examples of the Ten from our federals buildings, because they represent one of the core documents of our legal system.
Now, I'll most likely be accused of stating that the Ten are the foundation of our laws, which I most certainly am not stating. They are a part of it, but not the whole of it.
Mankind was around for a 10s of 1000s of years before the ten commandments, which means it cannot be anything akin to foundational. Furthermore the bible simply related stories similar to ones that are centuries older than the bible, again meaning that the xian 10 commandments are not foundational to mankind.
To the Left, the government has to be the religion everyone has faith in.
Is there a particular Commandment with which you disagree?
Once again, here they are:
1. You shall have no other Gods before me
2. You shall not make for yourselves an idol
3. You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God
4. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy
5. Honor your father and your mother
6. You shall not murder
7. You shall not commit adultery
8. You shall not steal
9. You shall not give false testimony
10. You shall not covet
1. outlawed by the First Amendment.
2. won't get you in trouble in Modern America.
3. won't get you in trouble in Modern America.
4. Most big stores are open on Saturday and Sunday both. No sabbaths there.
5. won't get you in trouble in Modern America.
6. Bingo! There's one!
7. Won't get you in trouble with the law, but could have some negative consequences.
8. Bingo! Yet another!
9. And there's the third
10. Downright encouraged in a capitalist system.
There you go. The Ten Commandments as a basis for modern law.
Can you see how you contradict yourself in as little as two sentences?
We belie all of them, so I'm figuring they are all pretty useless. Dittohead not! posted this analysis...
But I'd go so far as to say that even the three he thinks are part of our society are not, and are instead conditionally accepted in our modern society, so really none of them apply, and it's an entirely useless list.
But you didn't state the ones with which YOU disagree...
All of them. Clear enough?
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