Don't hold your breath, because there is no such thing as an honest ANYTHING when it comes to politicians.
So you concede that at least some actions which happen prior to someone taking office could fall under the category of emoluments?
We're now just talking about the duration of that window of relevance?
You say that the window is larger than one minute, but smaller than 7 years?
Not on a scale comparable to Trump. He is a prolific, extreme even, liar. Is that clear enough for you?So do all politicians what is your point?
A lot of claims made with no supporting evidence. At least you’re consistent.that is calling someone a liar.
no there is no legit reason.
the judge is an obama appointee. he should have recused himself if he was not going to rule according to law
and fish a reason to allow it.
There is no evidence by anyone that trump has done anything illegal.
this is another fishing expedition. because the losers lost on the mueller report.
now they think they can violate constitutional protections to go fishing to try and find something
that is outside their preview to do.
So, Congress is allowed to investigate?The same way police and prosecutors do - get a warrant based on probable cause.
You think that Trump's pro-Putin penchant is the only reason why Congress is monitoring the PotUS's compliance with the Foreign emoluments clause?Simply being POTUS, or Trump, is not cause to investigate to see if some crime might have been committed. What appears to be the case, is that since Trump made some folks (who just happen to be congressional demorats?) mad by making pro-Putin comments then he must be a criminal. The problem is that you don't start an investigation by identifying a suspect and then investigate them to see what crime they just might have committed.
So, Congress is allowed to investigate?
They just need to follow due process?
And due process in this instance is something other than what Congress is doing?
You think that Trump's pro-Putin penchant is the only reason why Congress is monitoring the PotUS's compliance with the Foreign emoluments clause?
If there were some other reason besides Trump's pro-Putin penchant, would you be okay with congress monitoring the PotUS's compliance with the Foreign emoluments clause?
I would tend to agree. At least at this point. It remains to be seen what happens next.
Mazar left an interesting "door" in the ruling:
Judge upholds Dem subpoena for Trump financial records - POLITICO
“...it is not the court’s role to decipher whether Congress’s true purpose in pursuing an investigation is to aid legislation or something more sinister such as exacting political retribution,” Mehta wrote.
The operative is: "It is not the court's role to decipher...."
Maybe not Mazar's court, but another court could.
LEO’s arrest, prosecutors charge.What if LEOs were able to charge people with crimes but were unable to conduct investigations?
The problem, in this case, is that the lack of evidence that a crime has been committed is being used as "probable cause" to search for evidence of a crime. Since we don't know if Trump has been cruel to animals then that lack of evidence should be used to investigate Trump for animal cruelty.
What on Earth do you keep talking about? Mazars is the accounting firm. The judge's name is Mahat.
What, exactly, is that "legitimate reason"?
Why would congress need probable cause for proposed legislation? Congress can easily say they are providing oversight to the IRS's policy of auditing presidents. Does congress have oversight responsibility?
It is not congress's job to "monitor" Trump...
If there were some other reason besides Trump's pro-Putin penchant, would you be okay with congress monitoring the PotUS's compliance with the Foreign Emoluments Clause?Yep, first they alleged RUSSIAN collusion and then, over 2 years later, decided that (past?) emoluments just might be the real "Trump crime". It is not congress's job to "monitor" Trump or to allege "possible criminal motives" for executive decisions which they happen to dislike.
The Mueller Report. The testimonies of some people, including Cohen, that Trump has committed fraud on his finances. The ongoing outside investigations into suspected fraud in his Foundation and some of his businesses.
They (demorats in congress) can easily say anything, politicians lie on a regular basis. Many see this as simply politics - you want to pretend otherwise and I certainly can't stop you.
Great idea, let's use hearsay (by convicted liars?) as just cause to investigate the Clintons forever too.
I refer you to your fraudulent liar-in-chief and his 'university', for example. I wouldn't mention 'honesty' when Trump is being discussed; he doesn't understand the concept. By the way, did you get the 10% tax cut he promised last September, and how about all the electoral promises he made, none of which he kept? Trump is about as honest as a Gambino.
The Clintons are still being investigated. You didn't know that?
Something that comes from a person's personal attorney who worked with him for over a decade is "hearsay" now? In the world I grew up in, that would be something most people would take seriously.
I sense that you don't want Congress to investigate Trump.
- 675: The number of days from when Mueller was appointed to the day he turned in his report to Barr.
- 34: people indicted as a result of Mueller's investigation, including Russian nationals and several former Trump aides and advisors.
- 19: lawyers who were employed by the special counsel's office, according to a letter Barr sent to Congress on Sunday.
- About 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants and other staff that assisted with the investigation.
- More than 2,800 subpoenas issued by the Special Counsel's office, that's an average of at least four per day.
- Nearly 500 search warrants executed.
- More than 230 orders for communication records.
- Nearly 50 authorized orders for the use of pen registers, a tool that lets the government know who someone is communicating with and when, but not what they said.
- 13 evidence requests to foreign governments
- 500 witnesses interviewed
- $25 millionin posted costs as of February
The Mueller Report. The testimonies of some people, including Cohen, that Trump has committed fraud on his finances. The ongoing outside investigations into suspected fraud in his Foundation and some of his businesses.
The same Mueller Report that didn't find anything? That Mueller report?
You are making a false equivalency, along the lines of 'hey, the Jews weren't perfect in WWII either'. The propaganda industry is almost entirely funded by and for the benefit of the right-wing interests.
Problem with your solution is the 'free speech' right. How do you 'regulate' them without it becoming state tyranny to say what 'ideas' are allowed? We need a more nuanced solution, and the key is to both reduce inequality and the now constitutional right for unlimited money in politics. Money is NOT speech.
The same Mueller Report that didn't find anything? That Mueller report?
actually he does. that is called due process.
he 100% has the right just as any other citizen to fight an unlawful act by congress.
actually it is 100% right and granted by the constitution.
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