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Judge Hannah Dugan arrested by FBI for allegedly helping undocumented immigrant 'evade arrest' (1 Viewer)

Come on, Trump ain't no angel. You can believe he's a boy scout but it's pretty obvious he blatantly obstructed justice. Before you say "but Biden had classified docs too" okay but did Biden obstruct any investigation into it?
Whether Trump is an angel or not is immaterial. The fact remains that all of the cases against him were cobbled together from absolutely absurd legal theories and that Dugan's case is straight up textbook obstruction.
 
Come on, Trump ain't no angel. You can believe he's a boy scout but it's pretty obvious he blatantly obstructed justice. Before you say "but Biden had classified docs too" okay but did Biden obstruct any investigation into it?
Discussions about Trump or Biden as simply a distraction here. This thread is about whether a state judge obstructed the law. Others' sins do not mitigate hers.
 
Discussions about Trump or Biden as simply a distraction here. This thread is about whether a state judge obstructed the law. Others' sins do not mitigate hers.

I just think it's funny, again, that some people are so "up in arms" over an obstruction charge like it's a bad thing when they literally voted for a serial obstructor.
 
Are they above the law?
You guys are pretty good at repeating a phrase. However, to answer your question, lets find out if any laws were broken.
 
May be worth noting that this is more than 'just' unlawful presence.

Flores-Ruiz previously went through the deportation process - and was removed - in 2013. At some point he came back into the US - and never sought permission to do so. He's being charged with unlawful re-entry. The current case (in Judge Dugan's court) includes three counts of battery and domestic abuse. He got into an arguement with his two roomates over playing music too loud. He punched on person over 30 times, then punched a woman who tried to end the fight.

By all accounts, this is one of the 'bad people' that should be removed.

Um Abrego Garcia. I don’t know who this other person is
 
Yes, you are making things up. Study up on this valid information and then get back to me.

An ICE administrative warrant is a document, issued by a federal agency such as Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), purporting to document their authority to arrest a person suspected of violating immigration laws. These administrative documents are not signed by a neutral magistrate or judge but rather an immigration officer like an ICE agent or immigration judge.
An ICE administrative warrant is NOT a judicial warrant. ICE administrative warrants do not give ICE officials authority to enter a place where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy, without consent. If this happens—state clearly that you do not consent to them entering but do not physically resist. If ICE officials have already entered, then ask them to leave and state that you do not consent to a search.

As I said, an administrative warrant is enforceable in any public space where this is not a reasonable expectation of privacy. And courts are a public venue where there is not a reasonable expectation of privacy.

The areas in question in this case were public areas of the court/federal building. They were not private quarters, such as a jury room, the judge's chambers, or some other restricted area. The agents were attempting to execute the warrant in legally public spaces where there was NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.

There was a reason that I used that specific language about privacy in my earlier post--because, unlike you, I researched the topic first and didn't just make things up and pretend like they were true.
Did you miss do not give authorization to enter?
 
You guys are pretty good at repeating a phrase. However, to answer your question, lets find out if any laws were broken.
I have no idea if she broke the law or not. I suppose they will make their case, but to listen to some in here, they shouldn't have arrested her simply because she's a judge.

Therefore, my question followed.
 
I just think it's funny, again, that some people are so "up in arms" over an obstruction charge like it's a bad thing when they literally voted for a serial obstructor.
Then this is the perfect opportunity for virtuous left winger to support the arrest of this person because you adhere to the principle of 'no one is above the law.'
 
You seem pretty confident another judge will hold her accountable. You say "no one is above the law" but come on, we all know these people all are.

She'll get off, a right winger or two will be outraged, and then nada. Mark my words. Hope I'm wrong but doubt it.
Why is this a 'right wing' issue? I think everyone should be appalled at the judge's actions. If not, you're viewing this purely through a left-tinted partisan lens.

To recap - this is a person previously deported in 2013 (Obama was president). He never applied for re-entry, and showed up on ICE's radar when he was arrested because he beat the crap out of his roommates over loud music. ICE and other federal agents worked with the courthouse and did everything the staff and chief judge asked them to do. He had a warrant for illegal re-entry. Why would anyone celebrate a person - no matter what their job - sneaking him away from federal agents trying to arrest him in a controlled environment to keep everyone safe?
 
Um Abrego Garcia. I don’t know who this other person is
Eduardo Flores-Ruiz is the person we're talking about. The one federal agents from a task force went to arrest, and a judge is charged with helping him to evade arrest. He was deported to his home country of Mexico in 2013, and raised flags when he was arrested on three counts of domestic battery on his roommates.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not a part of this story. He's the native of El Salvador who came to the US illegally, and was ordered deported but then placed in a withholding status and was recently deported to his home country. He was also accused of domestic violence, but against his wife. He has been in the news a lot.
 
Sure they have power-- they authorize ICE agents to detain suspected unlawful aliens.
Its not the only document they use.
You didn't even know they are warrants
 
I have no idea if she broke the law or not. I suppose they will make their case, but to listen to some in here, they shouldn't have arrested her simply because she's a judge.

Therefore, my question followed.
The concern is that the Trump administration is using a rather flimsy excuse to go after a judge after losing a lot of cases on the immigration topic. There is like a component of trying to intimidate judges to get rulings in Trump's favor.
 
The concern is that the Trump administration is using a rather flimsy excuse to go after a judge after losing a lot of cases on the immigration topic. There is like a component of trying to intimidate judges to get rulings in Trump's favor.
She obstructed justice and was arrested and charged with that crime. Are you saying she deserves special treatment?
 
She obstructed justice and was arrested and charged with that crime. Are you saying she deserves special treatment?
I am saying that despite your assumption that she obstructed justice, it is not clear that she did.
 
ICE has the authority to detain illegal aliens.

Preventing ICE, or trying to prevent ICE, in doing this is a felony.
Preventing the fbi from doing their job is obstruction and yet you guys claimed it was political and a raid.

Had this been Trump you would just make up some worthless excuse as to how the dems are using lawfare blah blah blah.
 
I agree, it is hilarious. But the left not only believes they are intellectual superiors to the right, but moral superiors as well.
Hmm, yeah, I don't think there are such people are 'Virtuous left wingers'.

Here is their chance to prove it.
I think the left leaning who have already posted in this thread have already discarded their opportunity to do so.
 
As the ICE agents knew, obstructing justice by breaking into her courtroom and taking someone away without any involvement of any judge would be illegal.

But yall can’t seem to figure that out. 🤔
The stupidity you post on this forum knows no bounds.
That you think just making shit up is a good argument is hilarious
 
The concern is that the Trump administration is using a rather flimsy excuse to go after a judge after losing a lot of cases on the immigration topic. There is like a component of trying to intimidate judges to get rulings in Trump's favor.
It's a pretty good excuse to go after this judge. Her behavior was about as blatant as you can get. And it's good to discourage this behavior.

'losing a lot of cases?' It's been TROs.
 

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