I have to be honest i didnt expect this...it will be appealed im sure...
A federal judge declared Gov. Rick Scott's order requiring drug testing for some 85,000 state workers unconstitutional Thursday, saying the governor showed no evidence of a drug problem at the agencies to warrant suspicionless testing.
if state workers cant be drug tested,might as well end it for federal workers,since it was ruled unconstitutional.
Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional | NBC 6 Miami
wow that order seemsto defy all logic,pretty much every government agency state or federal and most civilian companies perform drug tests.
So to be clear, you think it's not a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments to piss and/or blood test recipients of state aid to protect the integrity of our welfare programs, but it is DEFINITELY a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments to take a DNA swab to protect the integrity of our electoral process.
Filed under "you can't make this **** up". :lol:
ok by that logic we must end all drug tests of federal employees,since there is no evidence of drug use.great the military should follow too.
btw the drug tests are not mandatory,except to keep your jobs,the amendments dont apply to one groupand then not apply to pilots or police officers.you cant just claim its ok.employment is not a constitutionally backed part of this country,and so requiring drug tests therefore does not violate any part of the constitution,they haver the right to say no,and forfeit the job!
ok by that logic we must end all drug tests of federal employees,since there is no evidence of drug use.great the military should follow too.
One of the more popular services at Solantic, the urgent care chain co-founded by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, is drug testing, according to Solantic CEO Karen Bowling...
Gov. Rick Scott's drug testing policy stirs suspicion
DNA testing for elections wouldn't be mandatory either, except if you want to vote. And of course coservatives are quick to point out there is no constitutional right to vote. :roll:
So can you explain the absolute inconsistency in your two positions?
Sounds good to me. I am against suspicionless drug testing...across the board.
Wait...What? I never got that memo!DNA testing for elections wouldn't be mandatory either, except if you want to vote. And of course coservatives are quick to point out there is no constitutional right to vote. :roll:
So can you explain the absolute inconsistency in your two positions?
Wait...What? I never got that memo!
And of course coservatives are quick to point out there is no constitutional right to vote. :roll:
problem is if itsa job requirement,there is nowhere in the constitution saying its illegal.would you have pilots not needing drug tests until one is spun on meth and he crahses a plane?\\
last scenario obviously doesnt apply to everyone but obviously the judge didnt followvery well the law,either that or drug tests are unconstitutianal,meaning the military fed employees and every emplouer nationwide needs to stopgiving them,ordo state employees have special rights other citizens dont?
I have to be honest i didnt expect this...it will be appealed im sure...
A federal judge declared Gov. Rick Scott's order requiring drug testing for some 85,000 state workers unconstitutional Thursday, saying the governor showed no evidence of a drug problem at the agencies to warrant suspicionless testing.
Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional | NBC 6 Miami
I'm as liberal as they come, but you lost me there. I don't think I have ever heard a conservative make that claim. The rolly eyes hint you are being sarcastic about that point in which case, I'm still lost.
I guess you haven't been following the photo ID threads, then, because several conservative posters defended the laws in part by arguing that there is no constitional right to vote. And in fact there is no absolute right to vote in the Constitution. The courts have been all over the map on the issue, with some finding a fundamental right, some finding a less than fundamental right, some finding a semi-fundamental right, and some finding no right at all. Here's a brief explanation from the site "Crush Liberalism" (lol): There is NO constitutional right to vote in federal elections « Crush Liberalism
I guess you haven't been following the photo ID threads, then, because several conservative posters defended the laws in part by arguing that there is no constitional right to vote. And in fact there is no absolute right to vote in the Constitution. The courts have been all over the map on the issue, with some finding a fundamental right, some finding a less than fundamental right, some finding a semi-fundamental right, and some finding no right at all. Here's a brief explanation from the site "Crush Liberalism" (lol): There is NO constitutional right to vote in federal elections « Crush Liberalism
No, he's doing what's called "generalizing". He would have had something if he had quoted the republican platform. Instead, he takes one guy's blog, a source who's opinion only represents ITSELF, and makes a sweeping generalizing about the right. I think everyone here knows how conservative I am, and one of my MOST BASIC principles, is that everyone has a right to vote.Thanks. I'm new here so I shouldn't be surprised when I am missing much of the backstory.
No, he's doing what's called "generalizing". He would have had something if he had quoted the republican platform. Instead, he takes one guy's blog, a source who's opinion only represents ITSELF, and makes a sweeping generalizing about the right. I think everyone here knows how conservative I am, and one of my MOST BASIC principles, is that everyone has a right to vote.
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