disneydude
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Maybe you can explain what the judge's intention were when she placed an injunction on this portion of the Arizona law.
what are you talking about?
And where does it say judges can only cite court cases from their circuit court? Oh thats right, Nowhere!
A state trooper has general investigatory authority to inquire into possible immigration violations. Moreover, the trooper's question about the green card was reasonable under the circumstances, and thus lawful."
"In particular, the United States observes this court has long held that state and local law enforcement officers are empowered to arrest for violations of federal law, as long as such arrest is authorized by state law
"We noted just recently that state law enforcement officers within the Tenth Circuit "have the general authority to investigate and make arrests for violations of federal immigration laws,".
What part of that don't you understand?
If some of the provisions which she enjoined are found to be invalid on equal protection grounds, because those provisions are based on and parallel to existing federal law, then she'll have to invalidate the underlying federal law, too.
Good ruling. The thing is, that if they checked the legal status of everyone, I'd be fine with this law. But the whole reasonable suspicion thing, is bull. It might as well say if you catch any person who looks latino check them to see if they are legal.
I don't see how anyone can honestly say that the AZ law won't lead to racial profiling, considering where AZ is geographically located and that illegals tend to be hispanic.
I would actually find it to be more honest and realistic if someone just came out and said, "We SHOULD be profiling hispanics to see if they are legal." I mean, it would be unPC, but at least that's the honest truth of what the law makers are beating around the bush about. But no, we're just going to pretend that it's an innocent law for the security of America and we're just going to catch people as they commit other crimes.
The level of bull****ting here is just off the scale. I agree that enforcement of the law should be suspended until the Fed case goes through.
As far as the judge's intention. I'm not sure the judge had any "intention". The injunction is simply th mechanism whereby the judge makes an initial determination that those aspects of the law are "likely" to be found unconstitutional. THAT isn't surprising. Even a number of conservative legal scholars indicated that the law might have problems withstanding Constitutional challenges.
Doesn't everyone have to carry a driver's license when driving a car? According to Susan Bolton, illegals don't have to keep any kind of ID on their person; and she's denied police officers--in accordance with their duty--the ability to enforce the law.
This is a travesty of justice. I wonder what Obama promised her.
Doesn't everyone have to carry a driver's license when driving a car? According to Susan Bolton, illegals don't have to keep any kind of ID on their person; and she's denied police officers--in accordance with their duty--the ability to enforce the law.
This is a travesty of justice. I wonder what Obama promised her.
Don't you realize that one can commit a crime without being in a car.
I don't see how anyone can honestly say that the AZ law won't lead to racial profiling, considering where AZ is geographically located and that illegals tend to be hispanic.
It can be.
However "He's mexican" can not be used as reasonable suspicion as that is racial profiling and racial profiling is illegal.
Even JUST a DUI would not necessarily likely give means to have reasonable suspicion as there's no real reasonable way to articulate why its more likely that a person whose not legally in the country is going to be driving drunk than someone who isn't.
However if someones pulled over for DUI and doesn't have a license, that would likely be a legitimate thing to have a reasonable suspicion as its likely able to hold up articulating that the reason you asked for his papers is because its realistic to think someone that doesn't have a license could be that way because they can't legally get one.
Simply charging someone with a Crime doesn't suddenly make racial profiling legal, under this law or any other law. There's no way, under federal laws, to go "That man is mexican, I am using that as a basis for my search" other than situations where there is a very specific and narrowly defined subject (Such as "A 5'5" mexican man in blue jeans and a red t-shirt just robbed my store")
other than the 1070 law that was just castrated.
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
… Liberal hypocrits drive me nuts!!
Tim-
Lets ask this: If AZ law enforcement can't check to see who is legal, then who can? What government agency is authorized to "check".. How many of them do we have? How often, and under what circumstances do they "check" legal status?
Don't you all see what a mess this is?
Tim-
If the Arizona police want to check the citizenship of people they arrest then great. But they should check everybody they arrest, not just people with "reasonable suspicion" of being illegal.
So If Im mexican I should deal with having to possibly prove my citizenship everywhere I go possibly. Even if I were legal. At the risk of ending up detained for not having papers?
I dont care about catching illegals that much. Its the legals that may suffer due to this that bothers me.
Doesn't everyone have to carry a driver's license when driving a car? According to Susan Bolton, illegals don't have to keep any kind of ID on their person; and she's denied police officers--in accordance with their duty--the ability to enforce the law.
This is a travesty of justice. I wonder what Obama promised her.
If the Arizona police want to check the citizenship of people they arrest then great. But they should check everybody they arrest, not just people with "reasonable suspicion" of being illegal.
Wait a minute...It is my understanding that in a DUI one is arrested, is that right? If so the subjects immigration status can, should, and will be checked.
j-mac
Good luck enforcing the law WITHOUT racially profiling when the majority of illegals are mexican. And the majority of mexicans are legal.
I wonder how the legal mexicans feel about this.
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