Jon Stewart skewers Beck and Massa

[Gina]

Stewart hits the mark again.

Video: Sour Gropes | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

 

[roughdraft274]

I have alot of shows that I switch between in the evening but the daily show I can't miss. I hate to see the day that the show goes off air or they get a new host. They should get rid of Colbert and give him a full hour.

 

[CriticalThought]

I saw this and stayed up late just to watch it again. It was so funny.

 

[Gina]

I have alot of shows that I switch between in the evening but the daily show I can't miss. I hate to see the day that the show goes off air or they get a new host. They should get rid of Colbert and give him a full hour.

Circumstances conspire against me so I cannot watch it regularly, but I do hit the website to watch online every now and again.

Stewart and company are the smartest comedy writers on TV. I'm with you, I hate to see the show end or Stewart leave.

I saw this and stayed up late just to watch it again. It was so funny.

I've watched that clip three times now! :rofl

 

[Dog]

I have alot of shows that I switch between in the evening but the daily show I can't miss. I hate to see the day that the show goes off air or they get a new host. They should get rid of Colbert and give him a full hour.

I'm sure a lot of Lefties who get all of their world views and news from Stewart agree with you. :rofl

He is a very talented comic with a very good graphics crew.

 

[Gina]

I'm sure a lot of Lefties who get all of their world views and news from Stewart agree with you. :rofl

He is a very talented comic with a very good graphics crew.

The best comedy is based on the truth, thus Stewart's success. You can't make up this stuff, it wouldn't be as funny.

 

[DrunkenAsparagus]

I don't like Beck either, but why are there a million of these thread?

 

[Ockham]

^^

Liberals like reminding the rest of the non-liberals that their funny guy is, they think, funny and is some closeted political muse hiding behind the makeup of a clown.

 

[Dog]

The best comedy is based on the truth, thus Stewart's success. You can't make up this stuff, it wouldn't be as funny.

I have a little different take: Gina.

"Truth" is in the eye or eyes of the beholder(s), and truth has elements that taken alone with carefully applied spin can lead some in his audience away from a total understanding and away from "truth" some who view him seek and also see in him.

Stewart is very good at knowing the audience he plays too. Many who view him every night tend to be shallow and limited in their knowledge of both history and (in depth) current events.

He then skillfully puts together a skit that uses snippets that appeal to (the part of his audience who generally lack perspective and depth) and uses his facial expressions and body language to generate genuine humor that the entire audience appreciates.

Some come away with a deep meaning that was never there in the first place. After all he is just a very skilled comic.

Some observers find it very funny and really enjoy the reactions of those who react like those who have found deep meaning from a very skilled comic. I'm in that camp, (in case you couldn't tell). :mrgreen:

Respectfully, Arf....arf

 

[CriticalThought]

Many who view him every night tend to be shallow and limited in their knowledge of both history and (in depth) current events.

I'd love to see the evidence you have to back up this claim.

 

[Gina]

I have a little different take: Gina.

"Truth" is in the eye or eyes of the beholder(s), and truth has elements that taken alone with carefully applied spin can lead some in his audience away from a total understanding and away from "truth" some who view him seek and also see in him.

Stewart is very good at knowing the audience he plays too. Many who view him every night tend to be shallow and limited in their knowledge of both history and (in depth) current events.

He then skillfully puts together a skit that uses snippets that appeal to (the part of his audience who generally lack perspective and depth) and uses his facial expressions and body language to generate genuine humor that the entire audience appreciates.

Some come away with a deep meaning that was never there in the first place. After all he is just a very skilled comic.

Some observers find it very funny and really enjoy the reactions of those who react like those who have found deep meaning from a very skilled comic. I'm in that camp, (in case you couldn't tell). :mrgreen:

Respectfully, Arf....arf

Let's use this video for an example. You are saying, in this case, that Beck didn't mean that "this is the guy we were looking for" to blow the lid off corruption in DC?

What was Beck looking for from Massa when he said:

"But Stu, does this not sound all exactly what we've been saying was happening?"

Is the point of the segment, ridiculing Massa for being a whacko and mocking Beck for getting fooled by Massa lacking truth?

I understand how spinning something can make a difference in perception, but in the case of this piece, and some others I have seen on The Daily Show, there is no denying the point as I stated it above.

For the record, there is no "deeper meaning" to be found in The Daily Show. It's just comedy. Comedy based on the real stupidity and hypocrisy of politicians, famous people and whoever else comes down the pike.

 

[Dog]

Gina; states:

Let's use this video for an example. You are saying, in this case, that Beck didn't mean that "this is the guy we were looking for" to blow the lid off corruption in DC?

That is an element of the "truth", (your term used in this thread in an earlier post), within the Stewart skit. I can't read Beck's mind but he was on notice that Massa was a whacko as Michelle Malkin had hammered him on his radio show well before the TV interview for spending an entire hour with such a whack job she considered a waste of oxygen. Beck was a bit prickly with Ms. Malkin.

Beck is on a mission. Beck's agenda is to have a popular opinion and current events radio and TV program. This attention, (including Stewart's), seems to serve that end very well, (IMHO). The entire news media was a buzz over Massa and they still are and Beck put his program front and center which seems quite typical of his operating strategy.

His pre interview statements and expectations were all hedged, and the whacko proved to be a genuine whacko where he, (Beck) had apparently hoped for some sorta hard news to play into his theme, where nothing of note happened.

Why is that such a big deal? Stewart made it very funny: that's all.

What was Beck looking for from Massa when he said:

"But Stu, does this not sound all exactly what we've been saying was happening?"

Beck hoped for more then he got, (it would seem), but Beck is quite the hypster, and that seems to me to be pre interview hype to drive viewers to his show. Simple as that.

Had he gotten some sorta red meat from Massa it still would not have been a big deal as Massa is clearly a freak who talks out of his arse, (typical of many modern Democrat pols).

Is the point of the segment, ridiculing Massa for being a whacko and mocking Beck for getting fooled by Massa lacking truth?

I think the point was to make fun of Beck's awkward interview of a whacko and to make some good comedy. It was great stuff.

I understand how spinning something can make a difference in perception, but in the case of this piece, and some others I have seen on The Daily Show, there is no denying the point as I stated it above.

I don't think there was much "truth", or anything else profound in Stewart's skit. It was good comedy without any deeper meaning. Simple as that.

For the record, there is no "deeper meaning" to be found in The Daily Show. It's just comedy. Comedy based on the real stupidity and hypocrisy of politicians, famous people and whoever else comes down the pike.

We agree after all then. :mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

[Dog]

I'd love to see the evidence you have to back up this claim.

You would eh? Check this out then.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-media/66971-should-we-consider-fox-good-news-outlet.html

Look at post #139 by Boo Radley and #141 by HazlNUT. :mrgreen:

 

[Dog]

I didn't think "poor Glenn", but initially, I thought he tried to get at the truth of the matter.

After watching Stewart's recap, I don't think that at all. Beck had an agenda, to "change the course of the country". He believed "loony toonz guy" was going to be "the guy we've been looking for".

I'm not saying there isn't corruption in DC, but Beck did himself in. Beck believed Massa was credible, because he wanted him to be. In that light, the interview takes on a different meaning. All those questions like, "make a difference now", were essentially begging for validation, not truth seeking.

Obviously Gina, Stewart's spin did affect your attitude about this interview.

 

[Gina]

Gina; states:

Let's use this video for an example. You are saying, in this case, that Beck didn't mean that "this is the guy we were looking for" to blow the lid off corruption in DC?

His pre interview statements and expectations were all hedged, and the whacko proved to be a genuine whacko where he, (Beck) had apparently hoped for some sorta hard news to play into his theme, where nothing of note happened.

Why is that such a big deal? Stewart made it very funny: that's all.

I agreed with you:

For the record, there is no "deeper meaning" to be found in The Daily Show. It's just comedy. Comedy based on the real stupidity and hypocrisy of politicians, famous people and whoever else comes down the pike.
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What was Beck looking for from Massa when he said:

"But Stu, does this not sound all exactly what we've been saying was happening?"

Beck hoped for more then he got, (it would seem), but Beck is quite the hypster, and that seems to me to be pre interview hype to drive viewers to his show. Simple as that.

Had he gotten some sorta red meat from Massa it still would not have been a big deal as Massa is clearly a freak who talks out of his arse, (typical of many modern Democrat pols).

So then Stewart based his comedy on the truth of this matter. Beck hoped for something from Massa that would "change the direction of the country", but didn't get it. It's humorous.

Is the point of the segment, ridiculing Massa for being a whacko and mocking Beck for getting fooled by Massa lacking truth?

I think the point was to make fun of Beck's awkward interview of a whacko and to make some good comedy. It was great stuff.

So we agree.

I understand how spinning something can make a difference in perception, but in the case of this piece, and some others I have seen on The Daily Show, there is no denying the point as I stated it above.

I don't think there was much "truth", or anything else profound in Stewart's skit. It was good comedy without any deeper meaning. Simple as that.

For the record, there is no "deeper meaning" to be found in The Daily Show. It's just comedy. Comedy based on the real stupidity and hypocrisy of politicians, famous people and whoever else comes down the pike.

We agree after all then. :mrgreen::mrgreen:

Yes we do.

 

[CriticalThought]

You would eh? Check this out then.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-media/66971-should-we-consider-fox-good-news-outlet.html

Look at post #139 by Boo Radley and #141 by HazlNUT. :mrgreen:

Pathetic. Neither of those posts provides any evidence that the population that watches his show is anymore or less "shallow and limited in their knowledge of both history and (in depth) current events" than the people who watch Glenn Beck. Seriously, that was the best you could do?

You made an outright, unsubstantiated assumption about the level of knowledge that a population has. I figured you would have some sort of actual measurement of the average Stewart viewer's level of historical and current events knowledge, not just an assertion based on clips from the Daily Show. What next, are you going to tell me that History channel viewers are alcoholics based on the number of beer commercials they run?

 

[molten_dragon]

John Stewart really is one of the funniest guys on TV right now.

 

[Middleground]

C'mon folks, lighten up. It's just freakin' comedy, for pete's sake. As for the clip, absolutely hilarious. :lol:

 

[VanceMack]

I'd love to see the evidence you have to back up this claim.

He has a ton of fans that literally turn to him as a 'trusted' news source instead of a very biased and VERY funny comedian. Thats not proof enough for you???

 

[Arch Enemy]

Oh Beck, fail though you may, the silly right will always play your altar boy.

 

[Gina]

Obviously Gina, Stewart's spin did affect your attitude about this interview.

Yes, of course it did because video evidence was given of Beck's intentions. As I just stated in the other thread, I had no idea Beck had been baiting his audience with "this is the guy we've been looking for". I hadn't seen any of it, having only learned of Beck's impending interview from this site. Absent the lead-up, I gave Beck the benefit of the doubt, but after listening and watching his statements, yep, I changed my mind. No matter where the information came from, it's true.

You even agree with me:

(Beck) had apparently hoped for some sorta hard news to play into his theme, where nothing of note happened.

So I don't know what the big deal is.

 

[Middleground]

He has a ton of fans that literally turn to him as a 'trusted' news source instead of a very biased and VERY funny comedian. Thats not proof enough for you???

People who turn to Stewart as a news source are just as idiotic as those who turn to Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Olbermann, et al.

 

[VanceMack]

People who turn to Stewart as a news source are just as idiotic as those who turn to Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Olbermann, et al.

OK...Im fine with that characterization...

 

[CriticalThought]

People who turn to Stewart as a news source are just as idiotic as those who turn to Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Olbermann, et al.

Actually, Jon Stewart openly admits that the Daily Show is a comedy show, not a news show, and that he plays loose with the facts from time to time. Please indicate any time that any of those other pigeons have done so even though their respective shows tend to be more of a joke than news and they have a tendency to distort the truth.