Democrats agreed to Republicans sequester budget number and Repubs moved the goalposts as in the past.
The simple fact is Obama and the Democrats vowed to shut down the entire government if the House won't fund Obamacare.
THUS, the TRUTH is that Republicans have shut down Obamacare and Obama and Democrats have shut down everything else. Yet not one media source is reporting that obvious truth.
But with respect to Defense spending didn't the Republicans agree to the Democrat's budget numbers alike?
You're kidding right? The GOP offered ~100 amendments to the original bill and NONE of them were considered...wondering how you define 'stone walling'?
Thats probably because it's not the truth.The simple fact is Obama and the Democrats vowed to shut down the entire government if the House won't fund Obamacare.
THUS, the TRUTH is that Republicans have shut down Obamacare and Obama and Democrats have shut down everything else. Yet not one media source is reporting that obvious truth.
You're kidding right? The GOP offered ~100 amendments to the original bill and NONE of them were considered...wondering how you define 'stone walling'?
Which begs the question, why was the house offering so many amendments and preventing an up and down vote on a clean CR when they KNEW their amendments wouldn't pass the senate or the president?
Amendments designed to make it unknowable are hardly "contributions."
Furthermore, many of their ideas are already in the bill:
Ezra Klein - The six Republican ideas already in the health-care reform bill
44 - Top House Republicans throw cold water on health-care summit
They own it if the premise is that by accepting or rejecting a given proposal they are taking action and thus direct the outcome of the event. However, is the kink in this argument that key Republican figures propelled a maneuver that they knew would be unacceptable (and fail in the process) to their opposition, which would then bring us to this point?
Appropriations and/or continuing resolutions are the only ways to keep the government operation. A budget resolution is merely a framework under which the appropriations "should" move forward...
Appropriations are the ****ing budget bills...
? the amendments I am speaking of were 3 years ago when PPACA was initially debated on...what are you talking about?
The government shutdown....you know, the topic of the thread?
That's true, but I'm still putting more blame on the GOP.
The simple fact of the matter is this stems back to the 2008 election. If the GOP had simply just worked with Obama on the initial bill rather than stone walling and refusing to participate, we would not be here AND we'd likely have a better bill...
OOPs. In #75 the amendments I referred to was in responds to this:
Sorry for the hijack...carry on!
You're kidding right? The GOP offered ~100 amendments to the original bill and NONE of them were considered...wondering how you define 'stone walling'?
100 amendments all involving attempts to kill or delay the PPACA? Get serious (as in strip out the nonsense).
Sorry, they might as well just put a provision that Obama should shoot himself... the fact that they compromised from a self-inflicted wound to the temple to simply being tazed while in the shower is not exactly compromise. Putting a poison pill into the CR and then only going out two months with it should be a non-starter among anyone that is being serious as it is with the Dems.
The President should not negotiate with terrorists.... for one, it sets a very bad precedent. The issue at hand is should the government be funded until a budget can be put in place or not. Anything else is an irresponsible distraction. When with the Republicans throw these buffoons out of their party and get serious. This whole thing is bordering on treasonous.
Of all the idiotic arguments made by politicians over the years this one takes the cake! Call it negotiating, legislating or just being a President not a dictator. Obama needs to remember that he is President, not a Chicago gang leader looking to gun down his rivals.
Talking about terrorists, what do you call a President and Senate majority leader who are willing to toss the country into turmoil because they see it as their best opportunity to win the house in 2014.
We wouldn't be having this discussion if Republicans weren't trying to force the defunding of Obamacare through a CR that has nothing to do with Obamcare.
Some might call the above an outright lie. I can't keep up with the proposals going back and forth, but I think the last one from the house called for a clean CR for 45 days and going to conference with the Senate to actually put together a budget rather than inane CRs the country has lived with for 5 years because congress ( both house and Senate) have not agreed on a budget.
Some might call the above an outright lie. I can't keep up with the proposals going back and forth, but I think the last one from the house called for a clean CR for 45 days and going to conference with the Senate to actually put together a budgett rather than inane CRs the country has lived with for 5 years because congress ( both house and Senate) have not agreed on a budget. To the best of my knowledge the Senate has not passed one appropriations bill.
Washington Democrats have slammed the door on reopening the government.
The president isn't telling the whole story when it comes to the government shutdown. The fact is that Washington Democrats have slammed the door on reopening the government by refusing to engage in bipartisan talks. And, as stories across the country highlight the devastating impact of Obamacare on families and small businesses, they continue to reject our calls for fairness for all Americans.
This is part of a larger pattern: the president's scorched-Earth policy of refusing to negotiate in bipartisan way on his health care law, current government funding, or the debt limit.
OBAMA TO REPUBLICANS: Reopen the government
As of this morning, Senate Democrats, acting in concert with President Obama, have rejected four different proposals from the House of Representatives to keep the government running and fund basic services.
OUR VIEW: The Shutdown Party
REP. CATHY MCMORRIS RODGERS: It's up to the Senate
On Friday, September 20, 2013, the House of Representatives passed legislation to keep the government running – funding Medicare, Social Security, veterans benefits, and more – while removing funding for the president's health care law, which is driving up costs and hurting our economy.
The Democratic-controlled Senate rejected this measure.
On Saturday, September 28, 2013, the House passed another measure to keep the government running, delay the president's health care law for one year, and permanently repeal Obamacare's tax on pacemakers and children's hearing aids.
Senate Democrats rejected the measure on a party-line vote.
(The House also passed the Pay Our Military Act, which ensures our troops are paid during a government shutdown. Thankfully, that measure was adopted by the Senate and signed by President Obama.)
On Monday, September 30, 2013, the House passed yet another measure to keep the government running and ensure fairness for all Americans under the president's health care law. President Obama delayed the law's mandates on big businesses and insurance companies; this bill would delay the law for everyone.
The Senate rejected this measure too.
John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now
You've got it totally backwards. Both dems and repubs agree the debt ceiling needs to be raised in order to pay the bills, but it's only republicans holding the country hostage if Obama doesn't defund his own healthcare bill.Did Obama remain within his budget? Is he going to stay below the debt ceiling? I mean, he is blackmailing the House to give him more. But the US already has a big budget and enough debt to break the bank. We do not need this.
You've got it totally backwards. Both dems and repubs agree the debt ceiling needs to be raised in order to pay the bills, but it's only republicans holding the country hostage if Obama doesn't defund his own healthcare bill.
Do you have any idea how much the republican's "blackmailing" the government is going to cost?
$300 million a day
Thats not very fiscally responsible of the republicans, now is it?
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