Joe Manchin should have listed himself as a Republican!!!

[RealityNow]

Joe Manchin should have listed himself as a Republican!!! - (and get out of pretending he is for the principles of the Democratic Party's agenda) He does not support the Democratic Principle and Policies and Agenda to help advance America and uplift American People and rebuild our systems We've always know that anything as attack and defeat minded as we've seen Republicans be, then history should have told many, that they would have "disruptors planted in the Democratic Ranks". No one should ever put anything past what they will do, and time and reality of today should have made that clear to people.

We have not seen any Republican over the past 4 yrs... block any of the vile stuff they did, and have any of their members get in their way.
Yet, Joe Manchin, is like a rock in the shoe of the Democratic Party.

He can do that because of the fact he represent a state full of very poor struggling people, who don't have the means, resources and likely under the stresses of trying to keep food on the table and roof over their head, they don't have time to focus and see how he is screwing them over. It's has always been easy for these type of people, Republican and Manchin to screw over the people, the same as we see being done in every Republican Run State... They lag and some are so far behind, they can't even see forward enough to know how far they are behind.
It's a shame that people like Manchin even got in government, but we know it was "self enrichment" that has led him and his thirst for power, to keep himself in the ranks of the wealthy.
He does not give a damn about the people of West Virginia. We have only 50 States and West Virginia Rank 47th !!!!

These are good American people who will work hard, as any other American people... and they don't deserve to have a menace such a Joe Manchin defeating everything that can help them and help the rest of the struggling American populations.

It's time people start calling out these type of imbeciles and their self interest motivated vile they engage against the same people who voted them into office.

How do you wake people up, and make them realize.. they need to read and learn and not just fall for any wealth white man or white man in a suit, who talks, and actually invest to learn who truly supports them, whether it is a woman, black or whites, or a man black or white... or other ethnicity... but... stop thinking that every white skin man is going to serve the better interest of the people, just because he's a white skin man. America's long history of devastations and the generational poor in America should have by now come to understand that point clearly.
It they watch how republican attack EVERYTHING except giving the wealthy another and another and another tax break... while nothing is done to benefit the working people of society... the infrastructure or any other thing.

It's wake up time.. The people of West Virginia should coordinate themselves and "find the means to remove him from representing them" !!! He screwed them on every matter that's been put on the table!!!! He was the Secretary of State from 2001-2005, and Governor form 2005-2010 and the people are in as bad shape now as they were then!!!
Geez!!! people, they man has no concern to get uplift for the state nor its people. Ranking 47th... tells the story, that he has done nothing the elevate the State nor the State's people and their processes to make better lives for themselves.

He's a power hungry asshole, and next he will claim he is running for President.

West Virginian's, "Get his ass out of politics" and West Virginia may have a chance to begin to embrace means of prospering its State and its People.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Joe Manchin should have listed himself as a Republican!!!

Manchin is for Manchin. His power on the Hill is the predominant calculus.

 

[Craig234]

As I said before, ok, you get your wish. Now the Senate is controlled by Republicans, Democrats don't have votes to pass anything, Biden's covid relief bill failed, the other three budget bills Democrats can pass like infrastructure can't get passed, Biden's appointments and judges are blocked. Happy now?

 

[Craig234]

Manchin is for Manchin. His power on the Hill is the predominant calculus.

It's not that simple. Manchin represents the state that voted for trump in 2016 by the biggest margin of any state, 40%. If Democrats don't like Manchin, we need to win over more voters and seats. We're lucky to have Manchin as bad as he is.

 

[swing_voter]

He's a democrat who won by a narrow margin in a red state.

What do you expect?

 

[Excast]

I don't like Joe Manchin and long for a future where his brand of bullshit centrism that leads to nothing getting done is no longer an issue. He is still infinitely better than the Republican alternative in West Virginia would be.

 

[Phys251]

Joe Manchin should have listed himself as a Republican!!! - (and get out of pretending he is for the principles of the Democratic Party's agenda) He does not support the Democratic Principle and Policies and Agenda to help advance America and uplift American People and rebuild our systems We've always know that anything as attack and defeat minded as we've seen Republicans be, then history should have told many, that they would have "disruptors planted in the Democratic Ranks". No one should ever put anything past what they will do, and time and reality of today should have made that clear to people.

We have not seen any Republican over the past 4 yrs... block any of the vile stuff they did, and have any of their members get in their way.
Yet, Joe Manchin, is like a rock in the shoe of the Democratic Party.

He can do that because of the fact he represent a state full of very poor struggling people, who don't have the means, resources and likely under the stresses of trying to keep food on the table and roof over their head, they don't have time to focus and see how he is screwing them over. It's has always been easy for these type of people, Republican and Manchin to screw over the people, the same as we see being done in every Republican Run State... They lag and some are so far behind, they can't even see forward enough to know how far they are behind.
It's a shame that people like Manchin even got in government, but we know it was "self enrichment" that has led him and his thirst for power, to keep himself in the ranks of the wealthy.
He does not give a damn about the people of West Virginia. We have only 50 States and West Virginia Rank 47th !!!!

These are good American people who will work hard, as any other American people... and they don't deserve to have a menace such a Joe Manchin defeating everything that can help them and help the rest of the struggling American populations.

It's time people start calling out these type of imbeciles and their self interest motivated vile they engage against the same people who voted them into office.

How do you wake people up, and make them realize.. they need to read and learn and not just fall for any wealth white man or white man in a suit, who talks, and actually invest to learn who truly supports them, whether it is a woman, black or whites, or a man black or white... or other ethnicity... but... stop thinking that every white skin man is going to serve the better interest of the people, just because he's a white skin man. America's long history of devastations and the generational poor in America should have by now come to understand that point clearly.
It they watch how republican attack EVERYTHING except giving the wealthy another and another and another tax break... while nothing is done to benefit the working people of society... the infrastructure or any other thing.

It's wake up time.. The people of West Virginia should coordinate themselves and "find the means to remove him from representing them" !!! He screwed them on every matter that's been put on the table!!!! He was the Secretary of State from 2001-2005, and Governor form 2005-2010 and the people are in as bad shape now as they were then!!!
Geez!!! people, they man has no concern to get uplift for the state nor its people. Ranking 47th... tells the story, that he has done nothing the elevate the State nor the State's people and their processes to make better lives for themselves.

He's a power hungry asshole, and next he will claim he is running for President.

West Virginian's, "Get his ass out of politics" and West Virginia may have a chance to begin to embrace means of prospering its State and its People.

Manchin is not the problem. Manchin is the symptom of the problem of a "representative" body that gives as much power to 600,000 people as it does to 40 million.

 

[Grandpappy]

Manchin represents the people of his state. He's doing his job.

 

[RealityNow]

I know we need him to have the Senate, but Geez!! We need to get a ground campaign to INFORM the people of W. Virginia, to support replacing him with a Democrat who works in the best interest of their people.
The problem is he knows we need him, so he can play his game of "pandering and whining about gaining Republican backing, when he knows damn well, Republican have been on a "Defeat The People Mission" for Decades upon Decades"!!! If he wants something for his State then be a man, and speak up and say what it is!! but don't screw the entire country because he wants to be an "asshole driven by personal self interest, at the expense of the people of his state and the nation.

It's sad that these people after 100's of years of hard work, are still supporting Republicanism which has screwed them, their grandparents and great grand parents and great-great grandparents.

In 1963-64 when President Lyndon B. Johnson toured their area, the devastation he saw there helped add to the motivation to promote his War on Poverty, and because of LBJ, we have "Medicare" which has been a life line for many of the people of that State, and certainly for the many from the Coal Mines and Hills, who were dying far too early because of lack of access to quality medical care, because the Coal Miner System, had nothing but paid swindlers who were paid to lie to the people and send them home to die a horrible death. Opioids ate his state alive, because the people were trying by any means to drown out the constant pain and hopeless desperation.

Democrats truly need to invest heavily in "canvasing that State to inform the people" and break it down in terms they can truly understand, and do the same thing in Mississippi, and other states that continue to back the same Republicanism that has them in the lowest ranking in every category across the measure of the Nation.

 

[RealityNow]

Manchin represents the people of his state. He's doing his job.

We should have known a Republican Conservative would love to see him continue screwing his people. Under no other circumstance would a Republican Conservative had complimented a Democracy as the poster just did, except when the person deliver's the type of screwing over the people that Republican love to see.

 

[Razoo]

he stinks a little like an ALEC cat ........... when I listen to his responses.

 

[RetiredUSN]

My god! You people are treating Manchin as bad as a Black republican.

No room for them there Uncle Tom's or moderate democrats in this party!

 

[Carleen]

Joe Manchin should have listed himself as a Republican!!! - (and get out of pretending he is for the principles of the Democratic Party's agenda) He does not support the Democratic Principle and Policies and Agenda to help advance America and uplift American People and rebuild our systems We've always know that anything as attack and defeat minded as we've seen Republicans be, then history should have told many, that they would have "disruptors planted in the Democratic Ranks". No one should ever put anything past what they will do, and time and reality of today should have made that clear to people.

We have not seen any Republican over the past 4 yrs... block any of the vile stuff they did, and have any of their members get in their way.
Yet, Joe Manchin, is like a rock in the shoe of the Democratic Party.

He can do that because of the fact he represent a state full of very poor struggling people, who don't have the means, resources and likely under the stresses of trying to keep food on the table and roof over their head, they don't have time to focus and see how he is screwing them over. It's has always been easy for these type of people, Republican and Manchin to screw over the people, the same as we see being done in every Republican Run State... They lag and some are so far behind, they can't even see forward enough to know how far they are behind.
It's a shame that people like Manchin even got in government, but we know it was "self enrichment" that has led him and his thirst for power, to keep himself in the ranks of the wealthy.
He does not give a damn about the people of West Virginia. We have only 50 States and West Virginia Rank 47th !!!!

These are good American people who will work hard, as any other American people... and they don't deserve to have a menace such a Joe Manchin defeating everything that can help them and help the rest of the struggling American populations.

It's time people start calling out these type of imbeciles and their self interest motivated vile they engage against the same people who voted them into office.

How do you wake people up, and make them realize.. they need to read and learn and not just fall for any wealth white man or white man in a suit, who talks, and actually invest to learn who truly supports them, whether it is a woman, black or whites, or a man black or white... or other ethnicity... but... stop thinking that every white skin man is going to serve the better interest of the people, just because he's a white skin man. America's long history of devastations and the generational poor in America should have by now come to understand that point clearly.
It they watch how republican attack EVERYTHING except giving the wealthy another and another and another tax break... while nothing is done to benefit the working people of society... the infrastructure or any other thing.

It's wake up time.. The people of West Virginia should coordinate themselves and "find the means to remove him from representing them" !!! He screwed them on every matter that's been put on the table!!!! He was the Secretary of State from 2001-2005, and Governor form 2005-2010 and the people are in as bad shape now as they were then!!!
Geez!!! people, they man has no concern to get uplift for the state nor its people. Ranking 47th... tells the story, that he has done nothing the elevate the State nor the State's people and their processes to make better lives for themselves.

He's a power hungry asshole, and next he will claim he is running for President.

West Virginian's, "Get his ass out of politics" and West Virginia may have a chance to begin to embrace means of prospering its State and its People.

In a 50-50 Senate, he is feeling his power.

 

[RetiredUSN]

In a 50-50 Senate, he is feeling his power.

When Romney was feeling his power, you liberals gave him a tongue bath.

 

[Fletch]

We should have known a Republican Conservative would love to see him continue screwing his people. Under no other circumstance would a Republican Conservative had complimented a Democracy as the poster just did, except when the person deliver's the type of screwing over the people that Republican love to see.

Hes not 'screwing the people' he is representing the people of his state. You just need to familiarize yourself with what a representative republic is.

 

[RealityNow]

As I said before, ok, you get your wish. Now the Senate is controlled by Republicans, Democrats don't have votes to pass anything, Biden's covid relief bill failed, the other three budget bills Democrats can pass like infrastructure can't get passed, Biden's appointments and judges are blocked. Happy now?

I have no interest to see Republican get the senate... I know it will take a massive effort to get a Democrat in that State who truly embrace the values and principles of Democratic Agenda to Help Nation and People and Build Our Society Forward. It's a very tough situation, and the viable option it to get a ground campaign going in that state to "truly inform the people, and do so in simple down to the basic reality in term they can understand".

 

[RealityNow]

Hes not 'screwing the people' he is representing the people of his state. You just need to familiarize yourself with what a representative republic is.

If you don't understand the subject matter... why speak?

 

[Helix]

all of the current energy of the Democratic party needs to be dedicated to getting this guy to sign off on HR1. give him whatever he wants.

 

[RealityNow]

I don't like Joe Manchin and long for a future where his brand of bullshit centrism that leads to nothing getting done is no longer an issue. He is still infinitely better than the Republican alternative in West Virginia would be.

Yes, its good that his existence under the label of Democrats is beneficial, to currently retain the Senate, but he calls himself a moderate conservative, we simply have to deal with him and his bullshit.
But somewhere along the process he will trip himself up, because lust and thirst for power always has a downside and that downside is likely what it will take to bring him inline with Values and Principle of The Democratic Platform.

 

[RealityNow]

all of the current energy of the Democratic party needs to be dedicated to getting this guy to sign off on HR1. give him whatever he wants.

He need to say what he wants for his State... It's not that difficult to give that help, because this state's people have provided the fuel source of America's long history of Coal Fired Plants, and they are still living on the lowest end of society. The problem is... how can there be the help for the people, when he plays "power games" rather than saying what he needs help with in his State. (We know what is needed, but he has to stand up for the people of his state and put forth his want and acceptance of it being delivered).
He promotes the concept of wanting to work with Republicans and he has sided with them many time, and to the detriment to the nation in doing so, his siding gave us rat clowns like Jeff Session as AG. The world knows Trump screwed America, and Manchin had issue with Impeaching Trump, when every fact indicates and clarifies that Trump should have been impeached, and truthfully speaking, Trump should be in Jail this very day.

Manchin knows he has no greater want for Bipartisan Support than Biden, and yet he wants to parade around like he's the only want that would like to have Bipartisan support and every fact has shown him over and over, that Republican have no interest in doing anything beyond engaging an agenda of "Attack and Defeat" people and nation!!! and he certainly knows their want to try and re-create white nationalism as that of past history. His own historical lineage, is from ancestry that white nationalist detested for centuries and decades, and he thinks he can win and gain their acceptance... is an absurd pursuit. they only care that he serves as a stumbling block for Democrats. The Minute he supports the Democratic Agenda to Uplift People and Nation, Republican will attack like like a pack of wild wolves.

 

[Helix]

He need to say what he wants for his State... It's not that difficult to give that help, because this state's people have provided the fuel source of America's long history of Coal Fired Plants, and they are still living on the lowest end of society. The problem is... how can there be the help for the people, when he plays "power games" rather than saying what he needs help with in his State. (We know what is needed, but he has to stand up for the people of his state and put forth his want and acceptance of it being delivered).
He promotes the concept of wanting to work with Republicans and he has sided with them many time, and to the detriment to the nation in doing so, his siding gave us rat clowns like Jeff Session as AG. The world knows Trump screwed America, and Manchin had issue with Impeaching Trump, when every fact indicates and clarifies that Trump should have been impeached, and truthfully speaking, Trump should be in Jail this very day.

Manchin knows he has no greater want for Bipartisan Support than Biden, and yet he wants to parade around like he's the only want that would like to have Bipartisan support and every fact has shown him over and over, that Republican have no interest in doing anything beyond engaging an agenda of "Attack and Defeat" people and nation!!! and he certainly knows their want to try and re-create white nationalism as that of past history. His own historical lineage, is from ancestry that white nationalist detested for centuries and decades, and he thinks he can win and gain their acceptance... is an absurd pursuit. they only care that he serves as a stumbling block for Democrats. The Minute he supports the Democratic Agenda to Uplift People and Nation, Republican will attack like like a pack of wild wolves.

the way i see it, the Democratic party is in a fight for its life, and it needs to act like it. HR1 is a have to do. the party leadership needs to do whatever it takes politically to get it passed.

 

[Roadvirus]

Manchin is not the problem. Manchin is the symptom of the problem of a "representative" body that gives as much power to 600,000 people as it does to 40 million.

Get over it.

 

[RealityNow]

My god! You people are treating Manchin as bad as a Black republican.

No room for them there Uncle Tom's or moderate democrats in this party!

He did not say he was a Moderate Democrat, he said he is a Moderate Conservative Democrat.

I think he should go back and look at his own history to note the challenge his state faces and simply come to terms that Republicans are not going to help him achieve whatever he wants to uplift his people and his state to where they need to be, to ensure their next generation does not suffer the challenges similar to the previous generations.
Trump may have given him money to help after the floods, but with Trump it was purely transactional, to get him to stay siding with other things Trump did which were not the best for "All" of America. Trump sold a big ticket package of whims, because Trump does not understand the intricacies of Geo Political Function... Trump thinks he can strong arm and swindle his way and push threats and bully like a New York Mobster, and that simply does not work on the International System. Everything is a process, and it takes many intelligent people in many diverse roles to have stable and good functioning international relations and international agreements. Trump wanted to function like he thought himself to be Tyrant of The World...
Trump's idea was I'll screw you!!! and say **** off!!! fact is: in and through such ignorance, he has no concept to understand that manner on the International Stage only brings a wrath to return in a whole package of ways. Trump did not have respect for the people of other nations, nor their nation... and when he said "America First" it told the world, that there was no intent at "Fair Play". It's the same thing he did with the Republican Party, which sent a message that he used the Republican Party to be "Trump's Tyranny" and turned them even more in a higher intensity of attack democrats and he promoted that for the entire span of his term. He attacked people as individual, and attacked "every" department, division and agency of American Governing bodies. He thought he could be President in the ways he was Mob Groomed to hoodwink, swindle and play the lawsuit attack and intimidate as he did with 'cities". Fact is... States and International Nations, is not "a city where you can attack the low level people and threaten them and bully cities with costly pointless lawsuits to get your way. The International Community simply does not submit itself to that. Trump should have learned that when he tried that crap with Ukraine!!!

Manchin was within the Orbit... he should have seen all this, and he certainly should have seen the stand Republican took before Obama was even seated, when they pledged to oppose anything and everything, and now he see McConnell and the mass of "Attackers" that are behind him send the same message to Biden. Yet, Manchin waste time... thinking he can tame the wildness of a Rabid Republican Senate. Even, John Boehner has called out the unhinged group that occupy the Republican Senate and all of America saw the past Republican Convention, when they had no platform agenda other than "Worship Trump as Tyrant King".

So, Manchin need to get out of dream land thinking he can be the great unifier, and realize that Biden has been there longer than he has, and he can't find the heart and soul of decency and respect for American people in the Republican Senate... so.. Manchin should know, he is not going to find it!!!!

That's the point of the title of this Thread and why I said he should have claimed himself as Republican. Even though I know we need his presence to retain the majority position in the Senate.. The point is... he must come to term with reality!!!! The Future won't wait for Republicans to stop the crap!!!

 

[Razoo]

he stinks a little like an ALEC cat ........... when I listen to his responses.

The DINO in action trying to portray himself as an all American boy........ we moderates must help oust Manchin for a real moderate democrat like Bernie.

MAGA = Make America Green Again = YES!

 

[Carleen]

When Romney was feeling his power, you liberals gave him a tongue bath.

He deserves one too!