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Joe Biden said antifa is just an idea?

Practical said:
Really? Antifa is just an idea? The violence and destruction is just an idea? The assaults and murders are just an idea? The fear and terrorism is just an idea? Beating people into agreeing with you is just an idea? This is one hell of a REAL idea Joe. And Chris Wallace, why didn't you follow up with Joe and ask him to denounce the idea? Why didn't you ask him if he agreed with the idea? This is low hanging fruit man, do your job!

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That's a lie. What Biden actually said was :

www.npr.org

From Debate Stage, Trump Declines To Denounce White Supremacy

Asked to disavow white supremacists, President Trump addressed the Proud Boys directly, telling them to "stand back and stand by." He did not expand on what he meant.
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BIDEN: His own FBI director said ... antifa is an idea, not an organization. Not militias.

TRUMP: Oh, you gotta be kidding.

BIDEN: His FBI director said that.

Biden's claim wasn't that Antifa was an idea, but that the FBI calls him that. And they do, they list Antifa as an ideology, not a militia.

Probably shouldn't start threads out with blatant lies.
 
Ikari said:
That's a lie. What Biden actually said was :

www.npr.org

From Debate Stage, Trump Declines To Denounce White Supremacy

Asked to disavow white supremacists, President Trump addressed the Proud Boys directly, telling them to "stand back and stand by." He did not expand on what he meant.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
BIDEN: His own FBI director said ... antifa is an idea, not an organization. Not militias.

TRUMP: Oh, you gotta be kidding.

BIDEN: His FBI director said that.

Biden's claim wasn't that Antifa was an idea, but that the FBI calls him that. And they do, they list Antifa as an ideology, not a militia.

Probably shouldn't start threads out with blatant lies.
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But haven't you heard? Director Wray is a member of the Deep State! That became obvious way back in April when he had the audacity to contradict Trump's initial Antifa claims.

By the way, does anyone else find it odd (e.g. not believable in the slightest) that Trump has heard of Antifa but has supposedly never heard of the Proud Boys? Once again, his own words prove that he's incompetent, a liar, or both.
 
Binary_Digit said:
But haven't you heard? Director Wray is a member of the Deep State! That became obvious way back in April when he had the audacity to contradict Trump's initial Antifa claims.

By the way, does anyone else find it odd (e.g. not believable in the slightest) that Trump has heard of Antifa but has supposedly never heard of the Proud Boys? Once again, his own words prove that he's incompetent, a liar, or both.
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Oh no, he was ****ing lying. In fact, no one specifically said Proud Boys in the debate before him. They had said for him to condemn white supremacists and right-wing militia. It was Trump who said "Proud Boys stand back and stand by". If he had never heard of them before, how would he know to respond with their name at that point?
 
Ikari said:
Oh no, he was ****ing lying. In fact, no one specifically said Proud Boys in the debate before him. They had said for him to condemn white supremacists and right-wing militia. It was Trump who said "Proud Boys stand back and stand by". If he had never heard of them before, how would he know to respond with their name at that point?
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I could've sworn it was Biden who mentioned them by name, while Chris Wallace was saying more general "white supremacy" Biden got specific. Hard to keep up with 3 people talking at the same time though.
 
ClaraD said:
well, you might have a point if you were talking to a Communist, but I am not a Communist...nor have I ever been. So, if you are going to refer to me, perhaps refer to me like the Never Trumper Republican that I am.
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ClaraD said:
you do realize that isn't the symbol for anything Antifa right? Those are Anarchists.
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You do realize that blatant lies don't impress anyone, right?

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Marxists are so often pathological liars.

I suspect the left attracts sociopaths.
 
Binary_Digit said:
I could've sworn it was Biden who mentioned them by name, while Chris Wallace was saying more general "white supremacy" Biden got specific. Hard to keep up with 3 people talking at the same time though.
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I was going by the transcript, but listening to the audio, you are indeed right. I think that Biden blurts out Proud Boys.
 
Ikari said:
I was going by the transcript, but listening to the audio, you are indeed right. I think that Biden blurts out Proud Boys.
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Yes.. Trump can't get himself to say "I denounce white supremacy and right wing militias". And pressed by wallace.. he is "who".."what?".. all confused on who exactly Wallace wants him to condemn...(pretty low fruit... like White supremacy)...
Biden gives him an example... "PROUD BOYS".
And Trump says "Proud Boys.. stand back and STAND BY".
Which I a really surprised no one has brought up. Because basically when you tell someone to "Stand By"... you are asking them to get ready to help you if you need them.
"The other firefighting engines were put on Stand BY in case they were needed".

Trump basically not only did not condemn white supremacist and right wing militias.. he asked them to be ready when he needs them.

Which is why the Proud Boys are exultant.
 
Binary_Digit said:
How ironic. Again.
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The Marxists who claim ANTIFA doesn't exist should also note that fire doesn't exist.

Fire is no more real than ANTIFA, just an idea.

So go ahead and douse yourselves in gasoline and light a match, your delusional lies are far more powerful than reality.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
You do realize that blatant lies don't impress anyone, right?

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Marxists are so often pathological liars.

I suspect the left attracts sociopaths.
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Not the same flag...lmao..if you are going to argue about what is and is not...at least learn what the difference is...btw, yes, I am anti fascist...I despise fascist scum, don't you? This particular group is not antifa...it is a part of the Torch Network coalition. They formed in response to a neo nazi music festival in 2007. They frequently out nazis...nothing wrong with outing nazis. I oppose violence against opposition groups and this includes this group who is virtually unknown here on the East Coast and Proud Boys who are well known scum on the East Coast.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
The Marxists who claim ANTIFA doesn't exist should also note that fire doesn't exist.

Fire is no more real than ANTIFA, just an idea.

So go ahead and douse yourselves in gasoline and light a match, your delusional lies are far more powerful than reality.
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He is calling you a liar.
 
ClaraD said:
It isn't about hating him. I dislike his policies. He is not a Conservative and he is no Republican. It is too bad you cannot see a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Someone lying about the ANTIFA terrorists to promote protect the Joe Biden lie really isn't in a position to pontificate on who is or isn't a Republican or conservative.

Bush was no Conservative, and his brand of Republican politics was destructive to the party and the nation.

PNAC was nothing more than a scheme to rape the public treasury by the Military Industrial Complex.
 
ClaraD said:
Not the same flag...lmao..if you are going to argue about what is and is not...at least learn what the difference is...btw, yes, I am anti fascist...I despise fascist scum, don't you? This particular group is not antifa...it is a part of the Torch Network coalition. They formed in response to a neo nazi music festival in 2007. They frequently out nazis...nothing wrong with outing nazis. I oppose violence against opposition groups and this includes this group who is virtually unknown here on the East Coast and Proud Boys who are well known scum on the East Coast.
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All of the flags of your beloved terrorists feature the A and the Circle - which was the same symbol Hitler's Brown Shirts wore.

Oh, and ANTIFA are fascist scum, as are the defenders and liars for ANTIFA. A 4 month Kristalnacht - yet there are vermin lying to protect these fascist pigs.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
All of the flags of your beloved terrorists feature the A and the Circle - which was the same symbol Hitler's Brown Shirts wore.

Oh, and ANTIFA are fascist scum, as are the defenders and liars for ANTIFA. A 4 month Kristalnacht - yet there are vermin lying to protect these fascist pigs.
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Do you realize that fascism is a right-wing ideology? Do you realize that the Nazis were fascists? Do you realize what the "ANTI" and "FA" parts of "ANTIFA" actually stand for? Do you have the first damn clue what you're even talking about?
 
Binary_Digit said:
Do you realize that fascism is a right-wing ideology? Do you realize that the Nazis were fascists? Do you realize what the "ANTI" and "FA" parts of "ANTIFA" actually stand for? Do you have the first damn clue what you're even talking about?
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of course he doesn't. He has yet to figure out what a fascist is.
 
ClaraD said:
of course he doesn't. He has yet to figure out what a fascist is.
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It carries a negative connotation, so it must be The Libruls! Textbook toxic tribalism.
 
Binary_Digit said:
Do you realize that fascism is a right-wing ideology? Do you realize that the Nazis were fascists? Do you realize what the "ANTI" and "FA" parts of "ANTIFA" actually stand for? Do you have the first damn clue what you're even talking about?
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Do you realize that the Nazis were socialists?
 
ClaraD said:
No, they were not. They were fascists.
fullfact.org

The Nazis were not socialists – Full Fact

Despite naming themselves the national socialist party, the Nazi’s policies - including the persecution of left-wing critics - did not align with socialist ideals.
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But it's in their name. National Socialist German Workers' Party. Do you realize what the "Socialist" in "National Socialist German Workers' Party" actually stand[sic] for? Do you have the first damn clue what you're even talking about?
 
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