Jimmy Kimmel back on air tomorrow

[trixare4kids]

It was indeed a nothing burger. It's no worse than what MAGA regularly hurls.

Are you purposely missing my point? - You clearly don't call what MAGA hurls a nothingburger.

 

[trixare4kids]

This, IMO, reflects the same ideology often exhibited by the Christian right that are a large component of the MAGA-World.

Expecting Holier than Thou behaviour towards themselves, while they unleash utterly despicable behaviour towards others.

Total hypocrites.

Nothingburgers for Kimmel, but not for "MAGA-World"?
I thought these were what you called "nothingburgers". Make up your mind.

 

[Fletch]

Nexstar-owned ABC affiliates won’t show Kimmel’s return Tuesday, joining Sinclair in preempting program​

This is a very good reason not to grant Nexstar’s request to expand their empire. Of course, the GOP FCC will do it anyway.

Why is that a good reason? It seems you only want stations to have the freedom to do what you want them to do.

 

[cpwill]

It actually wasn't that bad:



I think most MAGA haven't actually seen the clip.

The reason why FCC's Carr went on the attack against ABC and ABC's affiliates was because the joke criticized Trump.

I think you are conflating the critique over the implication that the shooter was MAGA (when we knew that wasn't true) with the joke about the goldfish thing.

 

[ElChupacabra]

This, IMO, reflects the same ideology often exhibited by the Christian right that are a large component of the MAGA-World.

Expecting Holier than Thou behaviour towards themselves, while they unleash utterly despicable behaviour towards others.

Total hypocrites.

Yep, and this is perfectly exemplified in all its glory in Stephen Miller's recent speech.

 

[trixare4kids]

That Kimmel's remarks are the concerning ones while the same folks whinging about this have said nothing about the blame the president and the rest of his administration made against a wide swath of people "The Left" before knowing who committed the crime, and they continue to do so even though the political affiliation of Robinson and his motive are unknown. But sure, Kimmel said someone offensive. It's not a serious position to hold unless one completely ignores one section of this mess.

That's because we knew it was a left leaning assassin before the weekend, while Kimmel pushed an incorrect narrative to tell his audience that we didn't. Of course, Kimmel's false narrative is concerning to the "Maga gang" he condemned. His freedom of speech should not go without criticism, and that's what really bugs the shit out of the anti-Magas.
I proved this in Post 766.

 

[trixare4kids]

Yep, and this is perfectly exemplified in all its glory in Stephen Miller's recent speech.

Who glorified it? You're making shit up.

 

[Raven484]

I don't believe any of them should have been suspended and canceled. Except for the clown on FOX who thinks homeless people should be exterminated.
All of this is a joke to me. Reactions on both sides.
Where was the Democrat out cry when Bill Maher was fired.
Where were the Republicans when Howard Stern was fired because the FCC kept fining his stations.

All of them should have just issued a statement or retraction like Sonny Hostin on the view. The embarrassment alone would have put both Kimmel and Dowd in line. Sonny just doesn't care.
The guy on FOX is way different.

 

[ElChupacabra]

That's because we knew it was a left leaning assassin before the weekend, while Kimmel to pushed an incorrect narrative to tell his audience that we didn't.

You did not know, you assumed based on your own political bias and overly simplistic notions of what the potential motive might have been. Some posters here assumed the person must have been trans and all sorts of other baseless idiocy before anything had been vetted. Trump did not know who was responsible before blaming his political opponents either. Knowing an assuming are two very different things.

I proved this in Post 766.

You didn't do that either and since the investigation into this assassination isn't in line with your conclusion, it looks like it's just more assumptions by you. What looks more likely is the romantic relationship with his roommate affected his views on gay/trans rights and Kirk's rhetoric in this particular area incensed him enough to carry out the murder of Kirk versus the broader picture the MAGAverse is trying to paint of Robinson being a card carrying member of Soros Inc. It's important to note that his romantic partner didn't share the kind of animus Robinson had since he is cooperating with the investigation and expressed dismay at the action Robinson took, so it also appears this wasn't "indoctrination" by someone else either.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Who glorified it? You're making shit up.

Feel free to read Stephen Miller's speech and then you can come back with a proper retort.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

I think you are conflating the critique over the implication that the shooter was MAGA (when we knew that wasn't true) with the joke about the goldfish thing.

Watch the clip again.

The joke wasn’t about the shooter being MAGA, the part people claim implied the shooter was MAGA was part of the setup to the joke about Trump, and the setup wasn’t that bad and was actually accurate because MAGA was doing everything it could to claim it wasn’t one of them, and at the time he said this the texts hadn’t been released. Kimmel was unfairly targeted by the Right. Most of the people complaining hadn’t actually seen the bit. And notable figures on the Right said things 10x worse than this. Blaming the entire Left for Kirk’s killing, for example. No calls for a single one of them to be banned. And the vitriolic rhetoric from the Right has not stopped.

 

[trixare4kids]

You did not know, you assumed based on your own political bias and overly simplistic notions of what the potential motive might have been. Some posters here assumed the person must have been trans and all sorts of other baseless idiocy before anything had been vetted. Trump did not know who was responsible before blaming his political opponents either. Knowing an assuming are two very different things.

You didn't do that either and since the investigation into this assassination isn't in line with your conclusion, it looks like it's just more assumptions by you. What looks more likely is the romantic relationship with his roommate affected his views on gay/trans rights and Kirk's rhetoric in this particular area incensed him enough to carry out the murder of Kirk versus the broader picture the MAGAverse is trying to paint of Robinson being a card carrying member of Soros Inc. It's important to note that his romantic partner didn't share the kind of animus Robinson had since he is cooperating with the investigation and expressed dismay at the action Robinson took, so it also appears this wasn't "indoctrination" by someone else either.

Feel free to read Stephen Miller's speech and then you can come back with a proper retort.

You have no clue what I know or you are deliberately misconstruing to promote a fake narrative instead of what I did do, report on my B/N thread about the assassination as to what we did KNOW about his lean, and his extreme dislike of Kirk's views and beliefs prior to Jimmy Kimmel's irresponsible condemnation on September 15th.

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https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-republican-shot-utah-valley-live-updates-2127895 This is a Breaking News Story. Details to follow. Allegedly, he was thirty minutes into his speech at Utah Valley University when he fell backwards after shots were heard. Early reports say he was shot in...

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This is why I rarely respond to your posts to me. You have a habit of going off course, making it about the poster, i.e., " ".

I have posted a correct timeline from the day of the assassination, and what was known prior to Kimmel citing a false narrative about "Maga world". And how we know came from the assassin's own mother who said of her son days before the weekend, "he had become more political and had “started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented." This was an official statement given to UT LE, and rementioned during his arraignment in an official court document.

What we know about Tyler Robinson: New revelations in Charlie Kirk murder case

Prosecutors say Charlie Kirk was targeted for assassination because of the suspect's dislike for his "political expression."

www.usatoday.com

I don't need to read Miller's speech. If it upsets you, that's your problem that you hate his freedom to speak.

 

[TamleeB]

No, it is not their right it is bowing to what their boss tells them to do.

Actually, it is indeed their decision to make.

 

[rhinefire]

That Kimmel's remarks are the concerning ones while the same folks whinging about this have said nothing about the blame the president and the rest of his administration made against a wide swath of people "The Left" before knowing who committed the crime, and they continue to do so even though the political affiliation of Robinson and his motive are unknown. But sure, Kimmel said someone offensive. It's not a serious position to hold unless one completely ignores one section of this mess.

Can anyone explain lowering the flag for five days as a tribute to Kirk? I guess when Trump dies he has written all flags will be destroyed.

 

[Luce]

Sinclair has elected to continue the suspension.

Personally, I would love to see Sinclair take on The Mouse.

 

[Luce]

I don't need to read Miller's speech. If it upsets you, that's your problem that you hate his freedom to speak.

Weren't we just all told there is no freedom to speak?

 

[Luce]

That's because we knew it was a left leaning assassin before the weekend, while Kimmel pushed an incorrect narrative to tell his audience that we didn't. Of course, Kimmel's false narrative is concerning to the "Maga gang" he condemned. His freedom of speech should not go without criticism, and that's what really bugs the shit out of the anti-Magas.
I proved this in Post 766.

By criticism, you mean "the FCC chief issues threats until dude gets fired."

 

[cAPSLOCK]

They suspended him and hes back. Now lets see if he can refrain from being a dickhead.

It seems both Sinclair and Nextar have chosen to keep him dropped. I don't know what percentage of the stations this includes or how that plays out with the non-terrestrial modes.

 

[Ikari]

Kimmel had to have known that the killer was not MAGA prior to his sick comment about them Monday, 9/15. The killer was literally arrested and charged days before Kimmel said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”

The timeline of facts:
Charlie Kirk was murdered on 9/10, Wednesday.
Robinson was arrested 9/11, Thursday night.
Robinson was in court on Friday, 9/12
Kimmel aired his comment 9/15, Monday.

The facts the public learned live from a televised court hearing held on 9/12, Friday:
From a public court hearing on 9/12, Friday morning, a police affidavit included details indicating Robinson held views opposing Kirk. Specifically, a police officer wrote that Robinson had recently discussed Kirk’s upcoming speaking engagement at Utah Valley University with a relative, during which they "talked about why they didn’t like him." P/Ms to his roommate, he described as his love, said he had to stop the "hate". Interviews cited in reporting described Robinson as having a "leftist ideology" that contrasted with his conservative family's views, though he was a registered but unaffiliated and inactive voter in Utah. Now how could MAGA spend all weekend blaming MAGA for Kirk's death. It literally was not MAGA who assassinated Kirk. It was a man with a leftist ideology who wanted to stop MAGA Charlie from having an opinion.

So, how the hell could Kimmel say on Monday night, 9/15, the "MAGA GANG" "spent all weekend blaming anyone other than one of them"? Most everyone, including MAGA, already knew who to blame BEFORE THE WEEKEND. derp, derp

Calling Kimmel grossly misinformed, or even a liar for promoting a false narrative. If people want to watch this goof, by all means, they should be able to do just that.

The MAGA gang is still parading Kirk's corpse about trying to score political points.

 

[trixare4kids]

Feel free to remove the "all", it shouldn't have been there.

But my statement (& Trumps') otherwise stands, and your statement omitting "killers" would seem to be stricken.

Even if I removed the "all" from your concession above, you're still wrong.
"Trump called illegal aliens all rapists and murderers" This is your statement I refuted. You never said anything in that post about "killers".

Factchecker/AI Grok said your statement is not accurate. Requoted rebuttal below:

"No, that's not accurate. Donald Trump did not call all illegal aliens (or immigrants) "rapists and murderers." The claim appears to stem from a misremembering or exaggeration of a 2015 statement he made during his presidential campaign announcement, where he was referring to immigrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. The Actual Quote, On June 16, 2015, Trump said:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best... They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." This was not about "all" immigrants or illegal aliens being criminals—it was a broad, inflammatory generalization about people from Mexico, and he explicitly qualified it by noting that some are "good people." He did not mention "murderers" at all in this context."

 

[Fletch]

It seems both Sinclair and Nextar have chosen to keep him dropped. I don't know what percentage of the stations this includes or how that plays out with the non-terrestrial modes.

Kimmel will need to make some sort of outreach during his show tonight, some sort of apology or those affiliates may never return.

 

[Fletch]

The MAGA gang is still parading Kirk's corpse about trying to score political points.

That will probably wind down when you libs stop pissing on his grave.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I am just saying conservatives will claim late night TV decline is due to "wokeness" and will ignore the changing media and entertainment landscape for the more obvious answer.

You have a podcast or a YouTube channel interview celebs or make jokes for a fraction of the cost late night TV, that is the cause of the decline.

From the very beginning, I've been saying it's a combination of all those things.

They even work together. If I can choose to consume media that is, in my opinion, more reasonable and I can find it online, it's not just because it was online that I moved over to that. It's just also that I'm not getting my personal political positions beat up by a two-bit comedian when I watch a show.

For example, that analysis that @Schweddy posted by a fellow Democrat-leaning comedian Konstantin Kisin (though Kimmel would never admit that he has a lean.) was extraordinarily good. I've never heard of the guy... Well I'm following him now.

 

[Common Sense 1]

That will probably wind down when you libs stop pissing on his grave.

They can't and they won't!

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Kimmel will need to make some sort of outreach during his show tonight, some sort of apology or those affiliates may never return.

I admit, I'm probably gonna watch a recording of it whenever it comes out. I'm not sure I'll keep watching him. I can imagine a lot of ways he does something that sounds like an apology, but basically just keeps plowing on a head like he usually does.

But that's the kind of cool bit. If the guy actually does a real apology... I personally would actually be interested in continuing to watch him. And I doubt I'm the only one that would...

I ain't holding my breath.