Jim Jordan Should Be Disqualified From Ballot Over Jan. 6 - 14th Amendment, Sec 3

[ouch]

It's not a question whether or not Rep Jordan has been seditious towards our US Government but what legal/legit actions are now needed to seal the deal based on his alleged violation(s) and the 14th Amendment?

Jim Jordan Should Be Disqualified From Ballot Over Jan. 6: Protestors

Hometown Stations (WLIO) in Lima, Ohio, reported on Saturday that Democratic demonstrators gathered outside Jordan's office and demanded he be removed from the ballot over his actions related to January 6. They argued that Ohio's Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican, can remove the GOP congressman from the ballot—citing the 14th Amendment, Section 3.

"Frank LaRose can disqualify him from being on the ballot," Taft Mangas, an organizer of the anti-Jordan rally, told the local news channel. "He needs to take a look at this and do what is right and make sure that the people that are running for office are actually qualified to run for office. That they are legitimately allowed to run for office."




The 14th Amendment, Section 3 states:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

 

[Crovax]

Nothing says Democracy like keeping someone's name off the ballot

 

[Phys251]

Nothing says Democracy like keeping someone's name off the ballot

Except it's right there in the 14th Amendment, which righties despise. They only care about the 2nd and the 10th.

 

[Crovax]

Except it's right there in the 14th Amendment, which righties despise. They only care about the 2nd and the 10th.

What right there, how exactly is Jim Jordan ineligible to run

 

[ouch]

Nothing says Democracy like keeping someone's name off the ballot

Only makes sense, when one is anti-Democracy in US Rep's clothing.

 

[Hamish Howl]

What right there, how exactly is Jim Jordan ineligible to run

Amendment XIV, sec 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

 

[Mycroft]

It's not a question whether or not Rep Jordan has been seditious towards our US Government but what legal/legit actions are now needed to seal the deal based on his alleged violation(s) and the 14th Amendment?

Jim Jordan Should Be Disqualified From Ballot Over Jan. 6: Protestors

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Hometown Stations (WLIO) in Lima, Ohio, reported on Saturday that Democratic demonstrators gathered outside Jordan's office and demanded he be removed from the ballot over his actions related to January 6. They argued that Ohio's Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican, can remove the GOP congressman from the ballot—citing the 14th Amendment, Section 3.

"Frank LaRose can disqualify him from being on the ballot," Taft Mangas, an organizer of the anti-Jordan rally, told the local news channel. "He needs to take a look at this and do what is right and make sure that the people that are running for office are actually qualified to run for office. That they are legitimately allowed to run for office."




The 14th Amendment, Section 3 states:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

I'm thinking you should first prove that Jordan "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." Otherwise you have no ability to prevent him from running for office.

Let me know when he has been convicted. Then I'll answer your poll.

 

[Common Sense 1]

One more silly delusion!
A very weak attempt from the democrats to attack people with a different
political view then them. But as with all the other silly attempts this will fail.

Democrats are in emergency mode now. Just look at how many are retiring from
congress. Something like 30 now! They know what is going to happen this November.

 

[Crovax]

Amendment XIV, sec 3

How do that apply to Jim Jordan?

 

[Peter]

Nothing says Democracy like keeping someone's name off the ballot

There are plenty of people who can't be on a ballot for perfectly justifiable reasons.
That has bugger all to do with democracy and everything to do with not wanting people in charge who have shown they're completely unfit for the job.

I don't think I would be a good candidate if I'd been shown to be totally reckless with money for example.

 

[Hatuey]

How do the laws barring people who engage in insurrection, stop rebel leaders like Jim Jordan? Everyone knows what Jim did is rebellion, not insurrection.

You know, like how confederates were rebels against the concept of blacks that shouldn't be slaves in perpetuity.

Jim is that kinda rebel.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

It's not a question whether or not Rep Jordan has been seditious towards our US Government but what legal/legit actions are now needed to seal the deal based on his alleged violation(s) and the 14th Amendment?

Jim Jordan Should Be Disqualified From Ballot Over Jan. 6: Protestors

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Hometown Stations (WLIO) in Lima, Ohio, reported on Saturday that Democratic demonstrators gathered outside Jordan's office and demanded he be removed from the ballot over his actions related to January 6. They argued that Ohio's Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican, can remove the GOP congressman from the ballot—citing the 14th Amendment, Section 3.

"Frank LaRose can disqualify him from being on the ballot," Taft Mangas, an organizer of the anti-Jordan rally, told the local news channel. "He needs to take a look at this and do what is right and make sure that the people that are running for office are actually qualified to run for office. That they are legitimately allowed to run for office."




The 14th Amendment, Section 3 states:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

He should be. You can't try to overthrow the government and then run for office in it. It's right there in the constitution.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Nothing says Democracy like keeping someone's name off the ballot

I thought you conservative types were Constitutionalists.

 

[Crovax]

I thought you conservative types were Constitutionalists.

Which is why I was asking how this applies to Jim Jordan

 

[Gateman_Wen]

I'm thinking you should first prove that Jordan "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." Otherwise you have no ability to prevent him from running for office.

Let me know when he has been convicted. Then I'll answer your poll.

Ain't nuthin' there says he gotta be convicted first.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Which is why I was asking how this applies to Jim Jordan

Because of his actions before, during, and after the January sixth insurrection.

What did you think we were referring to?

 

[Crovax]

Because of his actions before, during, and after the January sixth insurrection.

Which actions?

This is the problem with the conditionally illiterate and willfully ignorant. You don't know how to articulate how you think the constitution applies to Jim Jordan nor do you understand the mechanism on how that section on the constitution is applied, hint its not banning someone from the ballet.

 

[mrjurrs]

Imo there are going to be a number of R elected politicians that can be disqualified based on the 14th and 1.6.21. The standard enumerated in the 14th is pretty low,

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

They only have to engage in, not participate or be arrested or be convicted to lose that privilege. I do not believe that voting against the certification of the electors would count, unless that vote came about from a plan to overturn the election.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Shouldn’t we have a little due process here?

(And no, I am not a supporter of Jim Jordan and I do consider him a complete piece of shit.)

 

[BirdinHand]

LOL.

They can demand whatever they want - he’s currently a member of Congress and obviously CONGRESS hasn’t removed him from office under the 14th.

So what grounds do they think they can demand he not be on the ballot based on?

Spend the energy coming up with a better candidate.

 

[Common Sense 1]

How do the laws barring people who engage in insurrection, stop rebel leaders like Jim Jordan? Everyone knows what Jim did is rebellion, not insurrection.

You know, like how confederates were rebels against the concept of blacks that shouldn't be slaves in perpetuity.

Jim is that kinda rebel.

More weak sauce response. That is why the democrats will be annihilated this November election.
More wasted energy from the left. How many more democrats will retire before the election?

 

[Common Sense 1]

Which actions?

This is the problem with the conditionally illiterate and willfully ignorant. You don't know how to articulate how you think the constitution applies to Jim Jordan nor do you understand the mechanism on how that section on the constitution is applied, hint its not banning someone from the ballet.

They are just doing what they have been told to do!

 

[Mycroft]

Ain't nuthin' there says he gotta be convicted first.

If you can't prove he engaged in those things, then you cannot invoke that amendment.

This isn't something that can be done because someone has an opinion.

If y'all did this, he would sue and win.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Which actions?

This is the problem with the conditionally illiterate and willfully ignorant. You don't know how to articulate how you think the constitution applies to Jim Jordan nor do you understand the mechanism on how that section on the constitution is applied, hint its not banning someone from the ballet.

This is some awesome condescension wrapped in idiotic populist bullshit. Take a bow.

 

[bomberfox]

Nothing says Democracy like keeping someone's name off the ballot

When people commit heinous crimes they shouldnt be on the ballot. Simple.