Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Hoax'

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Doctors used to be "quite certain" that ulcers were caused by stress. All scientifically backed up by observation. It wasn't until a decade ago that Barry Marshall and Robin Warren destroyed that consensus finding that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori caused them. They won the Nobel in 2005.

AGW theory is a massive body of scientific evidence unlikely to be overturned by a singular discovery, they are not even remotely similar.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

So were man not around, what would the climate be doing? Warming or cooling?

It wouldn't be rapidly warming, it would likely be quite flat relative to what it is doing now.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Here is an interesting paper:

PLOS Medicine: Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Nah, the main driver of climate change in the last 60+ years has been anthropogenic global warming.

Unlike the other 6 billion 999 million 999 thousand 940 periods of weather cycle and change.

:lamo

 

[humbolt]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Where are your published papers illustrating this?

You're saying it all wrong. It should be, "Vere are your papers, eh? Show me your papers. You zay you haf published papers? Vell, show zem to us NOW!"

 

[Fletch]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

It wouldn't be rapidly warming, it would likely be quite flat relative to what it is doing now.

How do you know that?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Nah, the main driver of climate change in the last 60+ years has been anthropogenic global warming.

Has it?

Even James Hansen acknowledges heat may take a long time, decades, to manifest itself to 60% equilibrium at a change in temperature.

Regardless, I am not one to claim we have no influence. I only believe we play a minor role in warming.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Unlike the other 6 billion 999 million 999 thousand 940 periods of weather cycle and change.

:lamo

Yes. The climate changes for many different interacting reasons. It also changes quite slowly relative to human lifespans. We are rapidly changing the climate primarily due to ghg's at the moment.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

You're saying it all wrong. It should be, "Vere are your papers, eh? Show me your papers. You zay you haf published papers? Vell, show zem to us NOW!"

Yes, asking for scientific research to back up scientific claims is just like Nazi Germany.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Yes. The climate changes for many different interacting reasons. It also changes quite slowly relative to human lifespans. We are rapidly changing the climate primarily due to ghg's at the moment.

You have great faith. Here...let me sell you some carbon credits so you can stop feeling guilty about destroying the planet.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

How do you know that?

Because ghg's have created an artificial net energy surplus that would not exist if it were not for our use of fossil fuels.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

You have great faith. Here...let me sell you some carbon credits so you can stop feeling guilty about destroying the planet.

I have rational reasons for trusting science.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

How do you know that?

Becasue the gods at the IPCC doctored data and told him it was so.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

I have rational reasons for trusting science.

You left a few dabs of your trust on your chin there...

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

You left a few dabs of your trust on your chin there...

Your inability to understand science is not my problem.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Becasue the gods at the IPCC doctored data and told him it was so.

There is a conspiracy forum that would be a better fit for you.

 

[humbolt]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Yes, asking for scientific research to back up scientific claims is just like Nazi Germany.

Your agressive nature is your problem, not mine. AGW has yet to make an accurate prediction concerning climate. None. Not one. You should consider that record.

 

[longview]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

AGW theory is a massive body of scientific evidence unlikely to be overturned by a singular discovery, they are not even remotely similar.

I think, if you bothered to dig into it, most of the supposed Scientific evidence are studies predicated on what could happen
if the mid to high range predictions of the IPCC occur, in addition of the proxy temperature records.
From a Scientific point of view, the concept of AGW does not even rise to the level of a theory, in that it does not have and invalidation criteria.
Your statement "unlikely to be overturned by a singular discovery" validates this idea.
Any real theory is subject to being overturned by the right single discovery!

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Your agressive nature is your problem, not mine. AGW has yet to make an accurate prediction concerning climate. None. Not one. You should consider that record.

Your passive, subservient nature is your problem, not mine. We just had the warmest year in recorded history and are projected to continue to warm substantially unless action is taken.

 

[Ockham]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Your passive, subservient nature is your problem, not mine. We just had the warmest year in recorded history and are projected to continue to warm substantially unless action is taken.

Was that by 2/100th of a degree or was it 1/100th of a degree again?

 

[longview]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Your passive, subservient nature is your problem, not mine. We just had the warmest year in recorded history and are projected to continue to warm substantially unless action is taken.

So how does that compare to the predictions.

 

[humbolt]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Your passive, subservient nature is your problem, not mine. We just had the warmest year in recorded history and are projected to continue to warm substantially unless action is taken.

Nice colors. Where'd that come from? Was it homogenized, midasized and defibrillated? Because I've seen the data that hasn't been quite so tortured, and it doesn't reflect that at all. But hey, if you have supreme confidence in it, then give us your prediction. Yes, you can use colors again. It's okay. Let's have that prediction.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

I think, if you bothered to dig into it, most of the supposed Scientific evidence are studies predicated on what could happen
if the mid to high range predictions of the IPCC occur, in addition of the proxy temperature records.
From a Scientific point of view, the concept of AGW does not even rise to the level of a theory, in that it does not have and invalidation criteria.
Your statement "unlikely to be overturned by a singular discovery" validates this idea.
Any real theory is subject to being overturned by the right single discovery!

:roll:

Just because AGW is difficult to test and falsify it does not mean it is not theory. If over a long period of time surface temperatures fail to warm or even cooled it would be falsified. But that is oversimplifying the issue. The Earth has continued to warm despite the "pause" myth. Surface temperatures have remained somewhat flat lately but the energy surplus continues unabated. If surface temperatures did not increase for a very long time we'd need to find where all the surplus heat has gone. This in itself would not invalidate the theory. The only way to falsify the theory would be if there were not a net energy surplus though we were expecting it.

 

[Verax]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

Was that by 2/100th of a degree or was it 1/100th of a degree again?

The difference from the previous record (2010) was quite small. Once there is an El Nino the records will be shattered. The overall trend is edging up so when the heat works its way to affect surface temperatures we will see large deviations again.

 

[Ockham]

Re: Jim Inhofe Brings A Snowball To The Senate Floor To Prove Climate Change Is A 'Ho

The difference from the previous record (2010) was quite small. Once there is an El Nino the records will be shattered. The overall trend is edging up so when the heat works its way to affect surface temperatures we will see large deviations again.

Is that what the magic 8 ball told you?

And I went and found my own answer....

The 0.01 degree Celsius difference between 2014 and 2005, or the 0.02 difference with 2013 are not statistically different from zero. That might not be a very satisfying conclusion, but it is at least accurate.”

http://nsstc.uah.edu/climate/2014/december2014/dec2014GTR.pdf